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APPEAL: DAWN TV should re-consider hiring Talat Hussain
By Yasser Latif Hamdani
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Strong title? Well I suggest you read Talat Hussain’s ridiculous piece in an Urdu newspaper.
To respond to his article: Angelina Jolie is a hundred times more respectable than you . She has done more for this country than you will do in another 5 lifetimes.
However I am more worried about Dawn TV. Dawn News – when it was in English- was the only hope for sanity and good sense in journalism in Pakistan. Then it went Urdu and it still maintained a standard above that of other channels like Aaj and Geo.
Now it seems that Dawn News has finally succumbed to the temptations of advertising revenue and is bringing on board this strange character. As a long time Dawn reader, I would like to appeal to Dawn administration to reconsider their decision to hire a journalist like Talat Hussain given the kind of nonsense he has written in a rag. After all if NPR could fire Juan Williams so could Dawn.
Also posted is a scathing piece by Tazeen.
Under the suit and blow dried hair lives a misogynist caveman
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Humanity,
Tilsim and I and Raza Rumi and Cafe Pyala and Tazeen are all Pakistanis.
@YHL
“Tilsim and I and Raza Rumi and Cafe Pyala and Tazeen are all Pakistanis.”
I am not sure why you pointed this out. Thanks for the information, anyway, There are many real, good Pakistanis in Pakistan and all over the world without a shadow of doubt.
I apologize, if any of my statements came across as a broad stroke stereotyping. Just so that we are clear, my venting and comments are about the the macho men in general, who put humanity to shame. Woman bashing is a global phenomenon, as we know.
Talat’s Article is way above your heads … isn’t it?
Please help me understand what was the Article about to begin with and what did you understand from it? Plain, simple and to the point answer by the writer will be appreciated ..
Abay chutiye we all know talat was saying that the govt’s character is worse than even a characterless woman like AJ but we are disputing his laanti panna on how AJ is characterless.
Ofcourse a chutiya like you doesn’t get why abusing a woman is wrong anyway regardless of your eye wash at the end.
So Jolie talked truth about your PPP and Gillani which made you mad? Why cursing Talat?The whole central idea of the column was that even a woman like “JOLIE” has more shame than your “rohani baap” zardari.
Jolie was on the money about Gilani. I am against the Gilani cronies.
@ sameera – “those who don’t fight for Afia Siddiqui but fight for this shameless woman”
you are sad excuse for a human being! – Afia is a witch who should burn in hell! – have you ever talked to a victim of a terrorist attack – obviously not, i suggest you do. I think you would change your mind about this whore afia!
I had doubts about TH after his OTT and imbecilic response to the indian media’s equally OTT performance in the aftermath of 26/11.
had Miss Jolie been on the ‘flotilla’ when it was boarded by the IDF, TH would have been hiding behind her without any hesitation or thought to his own sexist views about her.
he was re-emphasising a valid point AJ had made, but there was no need to bring her private life into it. if it was sarcasm about our own society, it was ill-considered and very badly presented. if not, it was sick. it’s rather disgustingly obvious that it is the latter.
@ YLH
Logoun pe comment kernay walay ki apni zabaan daikho … apnay giraybaan mein jhaank pehle … If your arguement is that TALAT said AJ is characterless … Well, SHE IS!!
Tell me if TALAT made it up … She made out with her own brother, she had extra Martial relations, she was on substance which is wrong even if you judge her on Western standards.
Ganday ko ganda kaha TALAT nay … bilkul theak kaha …
And between you and me … you should be fined for reading his Article … wasn’t for people of your calibre .. Tu TARZAN MINKO perh ..
It ain’t a secret why she adopted kids … you know shit!!
People who she belongs to have the same opinion about her… who are you to defend? He isn’t the first one to say all that about your beloved AJ … google it MORON!!
Get a life!
Umer mian…
It is because of [EDITED] like you that our country is in the depths that it is.
She hasn’t passed judgment on your lifestyle, on misogyny, bigotry, trampling of women’s rights and the hypocrisy that is the hallmark of Muslim life today.
Who are you to pass judgment on her. Jao munh dho kar ayo [EDITED].
Aur mujhe nahin pata thaa talat tera baap hai. Sorry.
If the translation in Cafe Pyala is reasonably accurate, Talat Hussain is a sickening human being. Leave aside what she contributed or did not – there were tasteless and strange comments on what she did contribute – there were personal remarks and nasty attacks which should have led to the man being horse-whipped. It is not difficult to understand YLH’s and Tilsim’s anger – for that matter, the indignation of Zia Ahmed, Watty, Alizeh Haider and Tariq – after going through it, although it was painful finishing the read.
A Abbas [October 27, 2010 at 4:56 pm]
YLH anti-Indian? That’s interesting; why do you think so? We’ve all read his fulminations against Indian trolls, and you might be astonished to learn that most balanced Indians writing here agree with him. But that’s not anti-Indian across the board, surely?
bciv [October 30, 2010 at 3:56 pm]
I’ve been an admirer and sometimes out-of-my-class sparring partner of yours over the years, but found your remark equating Talat Hussain and the Indian media very strange indeed, largely because this kind of equation is deplorable. Please consider the circumstances under which the Indian media said what it did. While I have never been backward in criticising its excesses, on that occasion, writing and speaking and presenting even as that horrific event was playing itself out, there is much to consider in extenuation. If you seriously wish to convey that at those moments of horror, horror caused not by our own home-bred lunatics, sponsored and fostered, and, as is becoming increasingly evident from a flood of evidence from prisoners in American custody, not Indian, horror planned and then led by state institutions in Pakistan, justifying the worst and most extreme assumptions made at that time, I need to ask you what you think the media should have written instead. Something on the lines of “Oh, dear, there they go again. But then, what are we to do? Boys will be boys, after all”?
And, in your opinion, the views expressed by the Indian media are equal and opposite to Talat Hussain’s views? I am handicapped by not knowing what these views were, but whatever they were, the act of comparison and equation, with the implicit cancellation of one by the other, is far from what we have come to expect from you.
It is depressing to watch you converge with those who have always played Shiv’s “Your shirt is torn. So what? your fly is open!” game.
so TH actually stooped down to the level of this Umer fellow above. is there any hope left for TH then?
@Vajra
i apologise for not communicating my views as clearly as i ought to have done.
equating Talat Hussain and the Indian media
i have pointedly not equated the two. i equated TH’s OTT response with the worse of the indian media but not his imbecility for there was no match for it.
the extenuation was too obvious to mention more explicitly.
OTT-ness being understandable is not being less OTT. similarly, understandable or excusable are not the same as justified, or dignified and honourable.
While I have never been backward in criticising its excesses, on that occasion, writing and speaking and presenting even as that horrific event was playing itself out [..] as is becoming increasingly evident from a flood of evidence[..]
i don’t know the details of what your criticism exactly was. i assume that cautioning them to wait for (such or other) evidence might well have been part of it. i also assume that your criticism might have been about aspects of the ‘reporting’ other than relating to such evidence or lack of it. so was mine.
She didn’t pass judgement? How could she? She aint a Journalist … and if still she could … TALAT could … [EDITED]
Common people have done so much for flood victims… woh to nai btaya [EDITED] Jolie nay… my entire family didn’t buy clothes for Eid gave the more deserving people all that money … Angelina, Angelina lagai hoii hay … impact daikh jo uski is statement se tum pe aaya as a nation, tum jaise zehni mazoor loog aisi politics se he khareedtay hein goray [EDITED] … you don’t understand their gimmicks [EDITED] !!
N thats not even the debate … point under discussion is what TALAT said … was it immoral? Did he make it up? Answer is NO … As in my previous post … SHE IS WHAT HE SAID SHE IS …
Example …
[EDITED]
Get a real job!!
Sorry to all readers if you find this post disturbing but he earned it!!
@bciv
Must be my less-than-perfect grip over the language then; only my Urdu is worse than my English.
equating Talat Hussain and the Indian media
i have pointedly not equated the two. i equated TH’s OTT response with the worse of the indian media but not his imbecility for there was no match for it.
I had doubts about TH after his OTT and imbecilic response to the indian media’s equally OTT performance in the aftermath of 26/11.
Obviously, I erred in thinking that ‘the Indian media’s equally OTT performance’ meant that there was an equation. Silly me. I also failed to catch your subtle turn of phrase where ‘Indian media’ meant, to the initate, ‘the worse (sic) of the Indian media’.
I really must get a grip on things, before making such a fool of myself in public.
@Vajra
oops! i hadn’t seen your response, or any responses to my post so i thought i could add the following lines to my original post:
“i apologise for not communicating my views as clearly as i ought to have done.”
and
“OTT-ness being understandable is not being less OTT. similarly, understandable or excusable are not the same as justified, or dignified and honourable.”
i apologise, once again.
to the extent of being OTT, there certainly was an equation, expressed and implied by me as intended.
‘the worse (sic) of the Indian media’
even if i had access to a representative sample, i wouldn’t have had the time to sample it all. to me it seemed pretty much across the sample i had access to. the use of ‘worse’ is in terms of both sections and moments. (and whether worse is grammatically correct or not, i did not mean ‘worst’. even less than the worst had their OTT moments.)
TH, and by extension Aaj news, represented worse of pak media. the worst, i presume, would have been somewhere in the urdu print media.
Umer mian,
The more you bark the more you show yourself to be an idiot. So keep barking.
Waisay [EDITED] have you even earned US $ 100000 in your life …that is just one cheque Angelina gave.
To my mind … “Sexy” Angelina is a much better role model than [EDITED]
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Abay [EDITED] … Apna naam to meine likha hua hai…aur kiya identity chupa raha hoon.
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@bciv
No harm done, just one more Hunood wandering away disconsolate and sobbing quietly into his soup at the unfairness of it all (not all at the same time)…it’s OK.
First somebody like PMA in uniform sends across a bunch of yobs to off more than a hundred men, women and children, then we get the results compared to a jerk like QNB doing a journalist. Insult after injury. And all of it in excellent English intended to make us feel inferior and not worthy of being massacred.
It’s not fair.
@vajra
his soup
sounds like the thing to have. can i have some too, please? and some tips on sobbing into it?
@bciv
First the bomb and now this! Is nothing sacred? Where do you think I’m from, Bhopal? I suppose if I don’t give in to these pressure tactics, you’ll call the local take-away for chop suey and Chinese soup?
@vajra
i knew i was treading on the thin ice of chhotta munh badi baat. low on luck, i ended up in the hole i had dug for myself. it might not do me any good to stay there but it will prevent me from doing any further harm.
Disgusting!
wOW!! US $ 100000? Really? Lot of money … Tried converting that to Pak Rs and got an error on the calculator …
itnay mein to tu apnay piyo ko galiyaan nikal sakta hay … Nai? balkay shayad Abba he badal lay … gandu …
Tere jaisay logon k haath mein pen aa gya hay jin k haath mein {L} bhi na day koi ..
Don’t write if you don’t have balls to face counter argument!!
Mr. Ass (aka Butt)
Here is my article in Daily Times today. Read and weep:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010%5C11%5C01%5Cstory_1-11-2010_pg3_5
Logo ko rook rook k bta raha hay … “Excuse me, maine Article likha hay Daily times mein, please perh lain”
Btw what makes you think I’d read it.FYI, I won’t even wipe my ASS with your Article …
Chal easy hoja, don’t feel gandu gandu!
Specially for you YLH … Bohat achay hotay hein woh log jinko criticize kiya jata hay, un se bohat achay jin k baray mein koi baat kerna pasand nahin kerta … Farigh hy tu!
Umer mian,
Clearly you have no clue who or what I am. Chalo tum is khaam khiyali mein khush raho.
ohh please enlighten me …
That is an impossible and futile task.
In other words, you are a faliure! Ohh I know you now. Thanks
ppl who critecize talat,i pray 4 u that god make your family women’ life and charactor just like AJ.ameen!
Just look how mannerly they are trying to impose their writ here. Shame on u.
YLH is the biggest ………………. mun na mutha tay jin parahoon latha
and we really dont know that AJ is your mom YLH
The author of this blog you are a pseudo intellectual, it seems in heart of your heart you are obsessed with Syed Talat Hussain but since he doesn’t condone your life style so he turns into a sour grape for you.
I’ve read that article completely. I don’t think you understand urdu well. He didn’t call her slut, he infact categorically mentioned that she was an actress at theater but not like many pakistani stage actresses. He acknowledged her good work in film industry.
The main theme of his article was not Angelina Bashing by any means. He just presented a comparison that Had she been in Pakistan, we would assume she is the worst creature, (he didn’t condone this perception mind you). He just said what would have happened. Then he shared her ideas about her visit to Pakistan in flood days. He then compared her character traits and ideology with those of our current regime in Pakistan.
The logical conclusion of his argument could be summarized below like this;
1. Angelina Julie despit her low moral values (in classical pakistani perspective without condoning it) is far far better than our custodians of country, so called muslim rulers of our country.
Thats it
What is wrong in it? He was basically using a literary technique. You use two contrasting themes to make the difference strike you harder than they normally would.
One more subtle way to say whatever he said could have been
“They(like of Angelina) are non-muslims but they follow basic values of Islam better than many so called muslims do”. Now it was his choice what method did he prefer. Sometimes you say things in a subtle way, sometimes you don’t. All depends on circumstances.
So in future please first learn urdu, then learn to read context, then learn to understand the actual message being conveyed and then start bashing your wildest early youth dream.
Regards
PS The funny thing is all of these blogs / appeals moderate messages strongly to make sure no one differing their opinion gets it through