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Hate speech against Ahmadis: An Appeal to Everyone

Meera Ghani

I would like to bring everyone’s attention to a recent event that has gotten little or no coverage in Pakistan and the international media so far. A group called All-Pakistan Students Khatm-e-Nubuwat Federation is handing out vile, hate fuelled pamphlets calling for outright murder of the already persecuted Ahmadiya community in the city of Faisalabad. The pamphlet lists Ahmadi industrialists, doctors and prominent businesses calling “to shoot such people is an act of jihad and to kill such people is an act of sawab (blessing).” This is an obvious attempt to incite violence against a minority and cannot be ignored under the guise of freedom of speech. It targets individuals and should be seen as liable in the eyes of the law. Sadly, the Ahmadiya community was declared non-muslim in Pakistan’s 1973 constitution and it provides many of these zealous organizations the legitimacy they need to spread their hate.

The Umoor-e-Aama Jama’at Ahmadiyya in Faisalabad has already approached the authorities warning them of the mayhem that could ensue but no action has been taken against the organization distributing this hate material in the cities commercial districts. The authorities in spite of having received information regarding these pamphlets claim to have no knowledge of them and keep ignoring the emails that have been sent to them by the Jama’s secretary Mahmood Ahamad.

Given that there is no political will for the Punjab Government and its law enforcement agencies to take action against this I urge the international community to weigh in on the matter and put pressure on the Punjab Government to take action against the Khatm-e-Nubuwat Federation. It is irresponsible for the Government to ignore these blatant threats that could lead to mass murder of many innocent civilians. We would also like to see more media outlets print the story as it may also spur the Government into taking action.

Here’s the link to the actual pamphlet: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=115954538491814&view=wall&notif_t=event_wall#!/photo.php?fbid=10150277352987214&set=o.155235684537684&type=1&theater

Here are links to a couple of articles printed so far: http://tribune.com.pk/story/185179/targeting-minorities-no-friend-to-ahmadis-in-faisalabad/

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Ahmadiya-community-fit-to-be-killed-says-pamphlets-in-Pakistan/articleshow/8814626.cms

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37 Responses to "Hate speech against Ahmadis: An Appeal to Everyone"

  1. [...] Hate speech against Ahmadis: An Appeal to Everyone [...]

  2. ezekial United States Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Desperate time to demolish the mullah brigade.

  3. sarah Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    i hope the liberal educated and brave ppl of this country can raise a voice against the monstrous mullah

  4. amaar United States Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Atrocious…

    Someone needs to do something…

  5. warisk Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    This is a result of overpopulation. Value of human life has fallen like too many potatoes in the market.

    And humans don’t control their numbers – and islam encourages muslims to reproduce too much – then all values go down the drain. Especially the value of human life. Such humans are ready for mayhem and murder in large scale. Pakistan and islam are a bad mixtures. To give these conflicts a religious colour is only the superficial aspect of it.

  6. Rex Minor Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    The so called mullahs are certainly not going to influence Karachi Rangers who shot down on camera a young lad, despite his appeals for mercy, in broad day light. I wonder if the rangers had training from the Americans?
    If I were an Ahmadi, I shall lie low for a period, since the country in the views of an observer is on the brink of a civil war, similar to the one we are witnessing in Libya and Syria? Tolerance and flexability disappear in such situations.

    Rex Minor

  7. amaar United States Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    People should raise this issue so that something can be done before another tragedy occurs.

  8. [...] Ghani at Pak Tea House informs that “a group called All-Pakistan Students Khatm-e-Nubuwat Federation is handing out vile, [...]

  9. WALI BALOCH United Kingdom Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Mullahs are actual enemy of Pakistan,,these rabid mullahs are against humanity…peace…education..development…these MONKEY FACE MULLAHS are the real follower of ABUJAHIL….untill people of Pakistan wake up against these MONKEY MULLAHS the Pakistan will keep on sliding down and down….MAY ALL MIGHTY ALLAH SAVE PAKISTAN from the SHUR of these MONKEY MULLAHS….

  10. Rex Minor Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    @Mr Baloch
    Mullahs are not monkeys. what have you against monkeys? Mullahs and Monkeys are God’s creation. Freedom of speach is the law in the United States and just listen to their christian mullahs sermons in public halls! Freedom of speech.

    Unlike USA, Pakistan needs laws which disallow inflamatory speeches by Mullahs. In Denmark and later in France, the jewish cartoonists got away with the cartoon since there is no law aginst the limits on cartoons. Leaders who are eratic come up with solutions which are more harmful than thos which existed before. How can Pakistan bring out a law which classifies a certain section of the society as non muslims. In my simple view Pakistani muslims are committed to Islam but the majority do not speak arabic language or the arabic culture, or understand Quraan verses, and go about calling most things which they do as Islamic. How can they be the judge to pronounce on thers if they are muslims or not. Nothing but discrimination is the terminology for such an attitude.

    Rex Minor

  11. Farhana Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    Desperate time calls for desperate measures. If still people are not going to raise voice against these injustices, this country is going to go down in the drain right in front of their eyes. It is such an embarrassment to read about the totally twisted versions of Islam, (and you cant even call it islam ) these mullahs are presenting.

  12. Rex Minor Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    If Pakistanis were to accept that theirs is not an Islamic country and its citizens though desire to be called muslims and accept Islam as a way of life for themselves, cannot realy be called full blooded muslims. This would be the first sign that they are on their way to becoming muslims. What they have inherited from India and the recent imports of philosophies and interpretation of Islam from the gulf states is too little and erro.

    Rex Minor

  13. hoib Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Many have an idealized version of islam in their heads or hearts, but in reality it always goes down into fascism, totalitarianism and arabic racism and arabic hegemony. That is an inherent incorrigible defect in islam itself. So don’t be fooled or carried away by those who are trying to present you some idealized version of their faith (any faith).

  14. Majumdar India Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Rex bhai,

    Who are full blooded Muslims, where can you find them. What do Pakistanis have to do in order to become full blooded Muslims?

    Regards

  15. DSK Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    Religion is all about hatred. Haters need to be eliminated from this world. The group that published this pamphlet should be banned in Pakistan. I am just way too tired of religions.

  16. DSK Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @WALI BALOCH
    Monkeys after all have brains which mullahs don’t. Hence you only insulted monkeys by comparing them to mullahs. Mullahs are the worst and dirtiest creatures ever born in this universe. All other creatures are far superior to mullahs.

  17. Sachbol United States Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Qadiani still have a good option to seek asylem in their former home which they tried best to burn in 47. Either go to refugee camps in Kadian and enjoy the free langar and safety of life or get ready to be sliced and cooked like Qadoos in Dream come true ,Pakistan. Mother India will still protect the returning children even if they are bastard and proud of it.
    Qadiani might call themselves Bin-Arab, Bin Persian or Bin Turk but truth is they are just Bin-Dustbin to true blooded Pakistani. Mother India will wipe your tears, all you have to do is ask and realize you aint children born of carvan men’ short one night stand but of the sacred soil.

  18. observer Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    The abrahamic faith was born of the mentality that was prevalent in the west asiatic space 3000 years ago. This mentality wants to remain unchanged. It seeks outlet in judaism, christianity and, worst case of all, islam.

    In this mentality monotheistic totalitarianism (centred around a tyrannical-whimsical god-concept), land-grabbing imperialism (this tyrannical-whimsical god promises land, earth and power to a special chosen people), treating women as chattel (pleasure bodies for men and reproduction machines for the chosen people) are the mainstay of ideology. Such a set-up necessitates fascist methods for its defence and maintenance.

    That is what happening in the societies under the boot of these west asiatic religions.

    Hindu religions (in plural) are imperfect, but they are not totalitarian or fascistic in their core spirit. They are reformable, and in fact love reform and welcome change and new ideas. They have a strong local mooring and do not carry out expansionist imperialist activities away from their homelands.

    Islam-based societies remind us of what George Orwell warns us of in his novels “Animal Farm” and “Nineteen-Eightyfour”. Muslims should study these novels and learn from them how islam is taking them towards this disaster. Islamic fascism is very well camouflaged under some nice kuranic sentences or stories and hence more dangerous. Islamic fascism is also more dangerous (and also blasphemous) because it takes place in the name of god.

    The 21st century is making clear to us all how evil this religion is and more is going to be. But muslims wish to (or have to) deny these facts and choose to live in fools paradises.

  19. Zubair Shah Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Pamphlets giving a call to kill members of the Ahmediyya community in the name of Islam are openly being distributed in Punjab. Not only do these pamphlets glorify the killing of innocent people but the addresses of many prominent Ahmedi businessmen, senior teachers and doctors who reside in Faisalabad have been published. Despite the fact that there are laws in our statute books against incitement to violence and murder, no action has so far been taken against the publishers of these pamphlets, i.e. the department of publications and broadcasting, International Organisation of Protection of Prophethood
    It is wondering that PML-N leaders are yet now aware of such Pamphlets or may be they have adopted Ostrich like approach. Even we can suspect the PML-N’s hand behind such bigotry, because of tainted past of right wing political party. Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah’ hobnobbing with banned religious outfits and terrorist elements is no more a secrete. This does not augur well for the province if its own law minister is giving patronage to militant outfits. The PML-N government in Punjab must stop bigotry from spreading its tentacles all over the province. The Ahmedis are as much Pakistanis as anyone else and they must not be treated as pariahs. The state must ensure their safety and punish all those who are fuelling hatred in our midst.

  20. hiob Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Even this so-called holy book of the muslims contains hate-speech and incitation to violence and enmity. The muslims however regards that as god’s command and revelation, final and valid for all times.

    It is an eternal volcano of the fumes of hate and fires of violence from Arabia.

    How come ahamadiyas (supposedly friendly peace-loving people) were for the creation of Pakistan and the extermination of hindus from their hindu homelands? Now they are getting paid for this service. Did any ahamadiyas protest when hindus were exterminated in Pakistan?

  21. mashmond United Kingdom Internet Explorer Windows says:

    I reproduce an article i saw on another blog –

    Under the law, Ahmadis may not call themselves Muslims and may not refer to their places of worship as “mosques”. Orthodox Muslims applying for a passport must sign a statement deriding Ahmad as an “imposter”.
    There are times when politeness is the wrong prescription, and this is one.
    Dear Pakistan:
    You are seen as badly behaved children, unable to function as a normal society. We cannot take people who make such laws seriously. You’re a joke. We consider you to be mentally handicapped, and violent as well.
    We don’t interact with you out of respect. We interact with you because you are a problem, like having a dangerous pest in your basement.
    And the most important message I send you is this: we learn about Islam not from western commentators, but by what happens in Muslim majority societies. And what we learn is the truth.
    It is only a matter of time before the civilised world will require pakis to have to sign a statement on their passport declaring they are not a terrorist (then you will all start screaming about human rights)

  22. Nasir United Kingdom Internet Explorer Windows says:

    hiob – you are talking rubbish as usual. Why dont you do something more constructive like watch the IPL

  23. Humanity United States Mozilla Firefox Ubuntu Linux says:

    @mashmond

    I agree with you 100%.

  24. Rex Minor Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    @Mujamdar

    There are no full blooded muslims in the world! Can anyone take a supply of vitamins and proteins once in a life time and survive for years. Islam teaches its followers to struggle for good with the use of their brains, learn and research the scriptures and discover the univers and the power of human.

    Those who kill, have laws authorising death of a human, and discriminate against the minorities should not claim to be the followers of any Ibrahimic religion. The revolution in the Arabic world is now on, after centuries of practicing despotism and living of the wealth of natural resources not realising that they became the followers of the golden calf, not Islam per say.

    The rangers who shot down a young man accused of a petty theft pn Karachi, did not ask if the guy was an ahmedi or the relation of the President? There are people in Pakistan who have not yet realised that they do no longer have a functional Govt. any more. No one’s life is safe, no military top brass show himself in Uniform in a public place. And things are going to get worst, Sir!

    Rex Minor

    PS The Genie is now out of the bunker, and if you recall I had warned about it a long time ago.

  25. Salman Arshad Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Linux says:

    Scholars should define court procedures to kill Ahmadis, like there are defined procedures and verdicts for blasphemers and apostates.
    .
    Liberal Muslims never campaign against the punishments for blasphemy or apostasy, as they might themselves be killed for trying to save a life.
    Likewise, there should be clear verdicts from esteemed scholars regarding killing anyone trying to save an Ahmadi from being killed as well.

  26. AA Khalid United Kingdom Internet Explorer Windows says:

    ”Islam-based societies remind us of what George Orwell warns us of in his novels “Animal Farm” and “Nineteen-Eightyfour”. ”

    Observer, why you read books by quislings? You should only read books by non-quislings like Sir Naipul (who is great becuase he likes caste system and his racisism is ”scientifically” proven just like caste system).

    Tut, tut you should make up for it by praying to the great non-quisling The Hindutva High Lord of the Solar System Vinayak Damodar Savarkar.

    P.S. – Get a sense of humour, get out of your victim mentality. Or if you can’t handle a bit of nonsense then don’t dish it out in the first place.

    Any way I am going back to reading the Protocols of the Elders of Mecca, which I can give to you after I finish reading it (unless you have already read it)

  27. observer Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    to Khalid

    So you admit once again that you can’t refute my arguments and must hence resort to low quality humor.

    It is an old trick to ascribe silly concoctions to someone to discredit him and think the readers wil take that as proof of your having refuted him. Are the PTH readers that silly?

    This is typical muslim. Ridicule or devilize the critic of islam. That this pattern repeats itself is a proof that muslims are intellectually zombies.

    Let’t see you devise some sound criteria of fascism and then apply them to various ideologies and religions (including islam and hindu religions) and judge which of them is fascistic and how much.

    BTW: The caste system (and also tribalism, class system and racism) is flourishing also under islam and with islamic help and justification, often with great subtelity and vigor. But don’t expect a muslim to be honest about it. When they choose husbands for their daughters then it strikes deep into their lives.

    The inability of the muslims to be honest is the muslims’ fixed characteristic. Then they try to produce some low-quality humor to camouflage this dishonesty.

    I don’t have to get out of any victim mentality – I am not a victim of islam. It is the muslims who are the victims of islam, both in terms of reality as well as mentality.

  28. nasir United Kingdom Internet Explorer Windows says:

    @dsk – you havea valid point. But please bear in mind that some mullahs are ok – it is only the PAKI mullah that has severe mental disability. It must be due to the large amounts of halwa they consume or their hidden lust for money and homosexuality. Bye the way does anyone know how my friend mullah sami the sandwich is doing?

  29. nasir United Kingdom Internet Explorer Windows says:

    @ Sachbol- please read the following carefully as this is the state of Pakistan today because of ignorant fools like you
    Hazrat Ali narrates that the Holy Prophet (swa) said: ” A time will come when nothing will remain of Islam except its Name, and nothing will remain of the Quran except its Script. Mosques will be full of worshippers but as far as righteousness is concerned they will be emty. Their Ulemas (religious scholars) will be the worst creatures under the Sky. Evil will plot from them and to them it will return.” refrence al-Baihaqi as quoted in al-Mishkat Kitab-ul ‘Ilm, chapter 3, p. 38 and Kanzul ‘Ummal, chapter 6, p. 43

  30. [...] the famous “secular” site Pak Tea House publish this as its [...]

  31. Syed United States Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @Propaganda against Khatm-i-Nubuwat

    Molvi ji, aap tu khud khatm-nubuwat kay kayel nahein! Aap kab say musalman ho gaye?

  32. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @@ Meera Ghani

    Just a note to tell you that some religious minded Muslims get berserk at the provocative attitude of Qadaianis. YOu can not on PTH as well that many Qadiani’s swarm it with an ‘agenda’ to propagate their poison of hatred or bias against Muslims and the very existence and Constitution of Pakistan. On the one hand these Qadiani’s emphasize democracy but when it comes to their being unanimously adjudged as non-Muslims (or Murtids or kafirs as termed by the common Muslim) they refuse to the status granted them democratically in a Muslim-majority country like Pakistan. Naturally, if the handful of Qadiani’s will provoke and incite religious hatred among the majority they should also be ready for some reaction. Though I do not endorse violence committed in any event but sometimes playing with the religious sentiments of others does stir provocative anger…which is quite natural as otherwise there would be no fights among the mankind filled with different thoughts and opinions. If I were a Qadiani and believed in democracy I would certainly respect the laws and Constitution of Pakistan as well as desist from playing with the religious sentiments of Muslims. Action beget reaction, hence I suggest Qadiani’s desisted from quareling with Muslim ( or Hindus or Christians as well) and should not try cheap methods to stress themselves as equal to Muslims who believe that there will be born no Prophet or his bazoor after holy Muhammad. There are more things already much debated since the Qadiani’s battled against all other sects of Muslims and even criticize Christians by undermining the position of Isa(Jesus) but got ultimately ultimately crst fallen. To add one more thing: The cry of the Qadianis for ‘secularism’ is nothing but a hidden desire for them to get at the helmhead of the affairs of Pakistan. Don’t you think they will suffer a back kick straight in their crotch in the presence of majority Muslims living in Pakistan and deciding country’s affairs as democratically as democracy and prevalent laws and legislature permit them to do so?? Even in the US the President swears and oath on the Bible, why then Pakistan shouldn’t be a Muslim or Islamic state in the building??

    regards

  33. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @@ hiob

    Mirzai’s played no role in the creation of Pakistan, they were an insignificant role, but as trouble-mongers.

    Say what this non-Muslim lady has to convey to all!!

    Is The Bible More Violent Than The Quran?

    by Barbara Bradley Hagerty

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788

  34. Tilsim United Kingdom Internet Explorer Windows says:

    This post is for those people who pride themselves to be Muslims yet use foul language and demean others and their beliefs.

    Reported sayings of the Prophet from Sahih Bukhari:

    Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Prophet (PBUH) said, “He who believes in Allah and the Last Day must either speak good or remain silent.”
    [Muslim].

    Sahl bin Sa`d (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, “Whosoever gives me a guarantee to safeguard what is between his jaws and what is between his legs, I shall guarantee him Jannah.”
    [Al-Bukhari].

    Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard the Prophet (PBUH) saying, “A person utters a word thoughtlessly (i.e., without thinking about its being good or not) and, as a result of this, he will fall down into the fire of Hell deeper than the distance between the east and the west.”
    [Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

    Abu ‘Abdur-Rahman Bilal bin Al-Harith Al-Muzani (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, “A man speaks a good word without knowing its worth, Allah records for him His Good Pleasure till the day he will meet Him; and a man utters an evil word without realizing its importance, Allah records for him His displeasure till the day he will meet Him.”
    [Imam Malik and At-Tirmidhi].

    Sufyan bin `Abdullah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: I asked: “O Messenger of Allah! Tell me, of something to which I may remain steadfast.” He (PBUH) said, “Say: My Rubb is Allah and then remain steadfast.” Then I said: “O Messenger of Allah! What do you fear most about me?” He took hold of his own tongue and said: “This.”
    [At-Tirmidhi].

    Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, “He whom Allah saves from the evil of that which is between his jaws and the evil of that which is between his legs will enter Jannah.”
    [At-Tirmidhi].

    ‘Uqbah bin `Amir (May Allah be pleased with him) said: I asked the Messenger of Allah (PBUH), “How can salvation be achieved?” He replied, “Control your tongue, keep to your house, and weep over your sins.”
    [At-Tirmidhi].

    Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri (May Allah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (PBUH) said, “When the son of Adam gets up in the morning, all the limbs humble themselves before the tongue and say: `Fear Allah for our sake because we are with you: (i.e., we will be rewarded or punished as a result of what you do) if you are straight, we will be straight; and if you are crooked, we will become crooked.”

  35. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @@ Tilsim

    You can keep your sermon to yourself…. since there too are people from other religions here there was least need for you to resort to catechism. People should refrain from turning PTH into an exclusively loathsome Mirzai forum in order to prove their bona fides of honest conviction. And for you I suggest you better studied the Quran before posting hand-picked Traditions of all sorts.

  36. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    The Real Face of Qadianis

    ”Qadianism/Mirzaiyyat/Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam has become quite a controversial issue. Muslims everywhere have strated campaigning against them. Pretending to be the Champions of islam and the only true Muslims, they are leading ignorant Muslims out of its fold. Is it a Movement of Reform within Islam as it claims to be? OR is it a Pious Fraud in the name of Islam? In 1988 Mirza Tahir Ahmad Qadiani, Head of the Ahmadiyya Movement and Grandson of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, issued a challenge of Mubahila, in which he labeled the entire Muslim Ummah as Disbelievers and Liars. Syed Abdul Hafeez took up the challenge and set up Anti Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam. it is an awareness campaign to educate Muslims and non-Muslims about the true nature of this creed and bring to the light the true personality of its founder and his heretical beliefs, as depicted in his writings. It is an honour for me to assist Shaikh Abdul Hafeez in his efforts. ”
    http://alhafeez.org/rashid/

  37. love Prophet Mohammad saw Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    everyone should be aware of the Qadianis/ahmadis fitnas that they are converting people on the name of islam and giving money,visa of uk usa to the people.
    Qadianis/ahmadis should be killed everywhere in pak and the world.

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