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Blood Flows Freely in Pakistan
By Amir Mir
ISLAMABAD – The Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ – Army of Jhangvi), a Pakistan-based, al-Qaeda-linked, anti-United States, Sunni Deobandi sectarian-turned-jihadi group, has let loose a reign of terror against the Shi’ite minority.
In its latest attack, the LeJ on Tuesday killed 13 Shi’ites traveling on a bus to work in Quetta, the provincial capital of Balochistan province. The attackers forced the Shi’ites off the bus, made them stand in a line and then opened fire.
This followed the July 14 release of Malik Mohammad Ishaq, one of the founding members of the LeJ, which has already claimed responsibility for the September 20 cold-blooded execution-style killing of 29 Shi’ite pilgrims of the Hazara community in the Mastung area of Balochistan.
All those killed were on their way to Iran from Quetta. Armed with Kalashnikovs and rocket launchers, the attackers stopped the bus and forced the pilgrims to get off. While women and children were spared, they were made to witness the execution of their dear ones who were lined up and sprayed with bullets.
It was the deadliest attack on the Shi’ite community in Pakistan since September 4, 2010, when a suicide bomber killed 57 people at a procession in Quetta. The Mastung attack is not an isolated incident, but part of a systematic campaign of violence directed towards the Shi’ite community. Over 400 Shi’ite Hazaras have been killed in Balochistan by the LeJ since 1999. Click here to read full article
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Kaalchakra says
but vedics have zero contribution in development of india.india was developed by buhdhdist and then by muslims.
for vedics ,hate is their duty and lie an staple.u fabricate history to ur advantage ,then force others to believe it.then use this as stick to beat others.u all are notorious of highest order.condition of pakist is bad (like afghanistan,iraq and libya)because of amrican presence.the moment they are kicked,evrything will be ok.
zoinism and brhmnsm are the two satanic cousins must be controlled to have peace in the world.sri lanka team was attacked by RAW agents.one terrorist name shukla,a brhmn,is in jail for this heinous crime.
yazan bhai
That’s definitely a point of view, probably a necessary one for some to keep any faith in their ideologies. But you are not making those as defensible statements of historical facts, are you?
vedic always fooled indian made money through their ignorance.idoltory is rediculed in vedas but practice by them just to rob and enslave common innocent indians.
geeta and puranas were written to enslave indians and establish brhmncl supermacy in samaj.krishna was god of local indians(non aryan)hence presented like lallo yadav or mayawati.ONLY WHITE IS DIVINE THEY HATE ALL OTHER COLOURS.krishna is blue.
a shudra even if he do brhmns job will remain shudra.while brhmn even if he is beggar will remain brhmns.
radha was neighbours wife.how they present her is matter to be seen.
yazan bhai
You are making statements of the kind “tajender exists because he is a complete moron. His only purpose is to fool PTH visitors, and hate is his only motive.”
Dr. Ambedkar did not put the blame on brahmins
ambedkar always scolded brhmns.but these evil brhmns gave him a brhmn women for enjoyment who later killed her with the help of her brhmn boy friend.
“brhmns gave him a brhmn women for enjoyment”
Yazan bhai, poor dalits have suffered enough. Please don’t misuse their name with your own issues
From where you are, your views make sense, but not as a dalit.
Kaalchakra says:
October 13, 2011 at 9:12 pm
u have no awnser so u say like.every religion and race have people with imperialist tendency.why u call them representative of islam.wwi ww2 bosnia mascare iraq destruction libya mascare world financial crisis invention of communism and nationalism are all the evil work of these 2 satanic forces.
muslims gave india best roads best food best building best education system.best cities.bhaichara unity not division.
main crime of ghandhi was,
1.he personally promised khan abdul ghaffar khan and maulana azad to oppose partition.he even said that pakistan will be created on my dead body.BUT,
while in the congress working committe meeting he almost forced everybody to vote for partition.india was divided by hindu zoinists not by jinnah or raja mahmoodabad.
SEE WHAT A LIAR.
brhmns gave him a brhmn women for enjoyment
KAALCHAKRA,his second wife was maharashtrian brhmn.rss gave her to him.she was politician hardly gave any time to him.purpose was to have eye on him.
Tajender
If there is anything in the universe that is deserved, you and Hoib deserve each other. I guess there is something to divine justice\retribution after all.
Anyway, you wrote:
“onition of india during muslim rule.as described by british lord macaulay,
LORD MACAULAY’S ADDRESS TO BRITISH PARLIAMENT 2nd FEBRUARY 1835…”
Care to elaborate what parts of India were ruled by the Muslims in 1835? ….
yazan bhai
Do you know anything about baba saheb’s wife?
Kaalchakra says:
October 13, 2011 at 9:56 pm
yes savita kabir an evil brhmn women who never cared for him,denied proper medicine to him later killed him with the help of her doctor boy friend.
Kaalchakra says:
October 13, 2011 at 9:56 pm
yes her name was savita kabir an evil brhmn women who never cared for him,denied proper medicine to him later killed him with the help of her doctor boy friend.
And you read that in a secret RSS memo? They didn’t tell you anything about all that she did for dalits because she was born a brahmin?
not in rss u can read in biography of ambedkar.ghandhi being rascist was the biggest nemy of dalits.usko bas yeh chinta thee kee dalit christian ya muslim na ho jae.
ghandhi was the recruiter in chief of british army always called hitler as his friend.most immoral man on the earth.his experience of brhmcharya is known to evrybody.very very very very 420 person.responsible for the most of evils of india and pakistan.in a country where 90 crores are not properly fed 49%of women are enemic
they have smuggled trillion and trillions of dollars out of india.angrezon se zyada indians ko loota.
brishers left because they knew that ,it is infinitely profitable to loot india through trade than to spend money on controlling savage angry people.
to kaalchakra and tajender
tajender-like persons justify the necessity of a caste system. I hope he writes and publishes a book and makes a fool of himself openly and even dalits will kick him out of their fold.
They didn’t tell you anything about all that she did for dalits because she was born a brahmin?
she might have done.brhmn being small in number want to have friendship with others.like now with mayawati in up.but his attitude with her husband was bad.
yazan bhai
About savita mai, do you have a personal communication from her about her views that contradicts everything else we actually do know about her life?
to tajender
Before the gods destroy someone they make him mad. That is an old greek saying.
hiob
Social stratification is an inevitable fact of life, and no one can have any doubts about yazan bhai, but we have to acknowledge that the caste system in India, because it became hereditary, took a different from. Other societies too might have had similar institutions of their own but that doesn’t mean that we don’t recognize the basic distinction between the Hindu caste system and any old plain social stratification driven by personal or family characteristics and chance.
castes were made by lord krishna in bhagwad geeta.hence they divine.no hindu can remain hindu after rejecting this.moreover it also natural.
when satanic forces say that world should be casteless,they mean others should be physically liquidated.war haqqani and attack on libya is part of this programme.now people underestand this hence in libya they are getting fierce resistence.
in india ,game is more organized.other races are made weak through very very low salary.anna movement is for stopping leakages.money should circulate only and only among few selected remaining should be walking skeleton,powerless to fight.blame should be on ur last birth.
manus dharam shastra and chankya
s arthshastra are the two gignatic octopuses ,eating very vitals of our society
to tajender
Write a book of your thoughts and publish it. You thoughts will give many people, even many dalits, a lot to laugh about (or cry about). A man of your talents should not remain confined to a pakistani website like the PTH. Your anger and limited knowledge of events and history and your fixated ideology ruin all your ability to think correctly and consistently. You cannot even write a sentence fully and correctly. This what happens when anger and hate overcome you.
hhiob please tell me ,on which points u disagree with me,,or where i am wrong.ur abuses shows that u have no awnser.
castes were made by lord krishna in bhagwad geeta.hence they are divine.no hindu can remain hindu after rejecting this.moreover it also natural.
international zoinists and hindu brhmnsts want all other tribe to be physically liqudated like the first nation of america canada newzealand and australia.now they want same to be reapeated in asia and africa.attack on haqqani group somalia and libya is of the same nature.
may be u dont know what are u doing.castless society means liqudation of all others.
to tajender
I disagree with you on many points because you take your ideas from people whose intention is to spread hate against brahmins and blame brahmins for all the ills. That is their one-point agenda and you subscribe to it blindly and angrily. Human history goes back not just 1000 but even farther to 10 000 and 100 000 years. What happened 10 000 years ago is very little known to us. May be the caste system started not 1000 but 100 000 years ago. No one can today tell us what were the reasons for it then. what happened 1000 years ago may be a later degeneration of what happened 10 000 years ago. The history of human interactions is very long and complicated. Hence to put blame only on brahmins is unfair and unprovable. Human beings started distancing from one another since long long ago. Why, how etc. are unanswered questions and may be will remain so.
Furthermore PTH – a pakistani muslim website – is not the proper place to discuss this above problem. Also, your arguments in favor of islam are unsubstantiated. Actual results of islam are very bad (fascistic) and they are a result of what the muslims are doing and cannot be blamed on hindus or brahmins. It is wrong to give muslims a chance to blame the non-muslims and you are not helping the muslims towards betterment by blaming non-muslims.
On the PTH stick to themes that touch Pakistan and muslims and islam in Pakistan. Brahmins, jews, hindus etc. play no role in Pakistan. Pakistanis have fallen into the habit of blaming jews, hindus etc. and thus ruining themselves with their own lies. Why do you help them in this self-deceit?
hiob dont attack islam, in pakistan affairs i am not interested.dont speak lie to make ur point.u people are boasters and liers.usuallty talk non-sense.u came here 2000 yrs before,no achievement except spewing hate and enslaving the people through fraud of idoltory.u use ur idols to bully others and make money.
i am not against brhmns at all ,i am against brhmnsm which is local form of international zoinism.with same agenda.looting pauperizing and giving pain to local population.
pak elite class and army is 10 time more corrupt than indian.this much i know.but it has nothing to do with islam.
yazan bhai
All these years I never understood this one point. You are against brahminism, which is a good thing. You do and should attack it.
Why don’t you give non-Muslims a similar right to attack Islam? What is the fear?
to tajender
Everything in Pakistan has to do with islam and its totalitarian claims – even the corruption there. As also the violence and its glorification and the fascism-terrorism and its export. A people as steeped (and drowned) in islam as the pakistanis just cannot be divorced from their religion and all their actions, feelings, sentiments, intentions etc. are somehow justified or instigated by islam.
If you don’t realize that and understand that, then you have not understood what islam is about and what its goals and methods are.
You can hate brahmins and brahminism to your heart’s content, but do come up with some concrete plan of action and publish it in India and not on the PTH. I fully encourage you to hate brahmins unceasingly. I have no problem with that. If hate makes you feel truthful and honest to yourself then go ahead and do it.
Your conflagration of brahminism and zionism makes no sense. The two are very very different from one another. It shows a certain streak of irrationality and craziness in you.
Hiob
Not zionism, but one can draw some parallels between Judaism and Brahmnism. Ofcourse, the relationship between Islam and Judaism is extremely close and very much straightforward.
Some Muslims come to prefer Judaism over Islam because they are not fully comfortable with what Islam added to Judaistic way of thinking. Similarly, some Jews become convinced about what Islam added to Judaism, and become Muslims.
These are all ancient ideologies and certain parallels among them are not hard to see, with very important differences separating them from one another.
To kaal
Brahmins did not invade lands or practise missionary activity. Muslims however are land-greedy and power-hungry and wish to impose their fascism on the whole earth ruthlessly and with bloodshed and terror.
Jews only want 25 000 sq. km of land.
Muslims have brought 25 000 000 sq. km of land + 1200 000 000 human beings under the boot islamic fascism and arab racism and muslim fanaticism.
Hiob
Different ideologies have different issues – strengths and weaknesses, if you prefer to use those terms. As human beings, we ought to be able to discuss them all objectively – as much as is honestly possible.
One way to look at all these religious ideologies is to see them as different solutions to eternal human personal and social dilemmas. As solutions to our common dilemmas, all suffer from certain degrees of incompleteness, weaknesses, if you will. What kind of social and personal ‘ideological weaknesses’ we decide to live with is up to us, as different peoples. We may even choose to not recognize any weaknesses. All these have consequences that societies cannot escape over time.
Theoretically, Brahminism shouldn’t have any problems recognizing and then trying to correct its errors. In fact, Savita mai is (was, now) one in a long chain of brahmins attempting to do so.
hiob i am talking zoinism not judaism.zoinists are hiding among jews while brhmns are hiding among local indians calling them hindu.they are copying zoinists.they have long term plans.
money corruption is the least harmful corruption.brhmnsm is evil force like zoinism cannot correct itself.they are like parasites sitting on filth and eating them.
but brhmns are ok.they too are victim of brhmnsm.like jews are victim of zionism.30%of america will be below poverty level.they too will be the victim of that reccession.
iam brought up among brhmns actually half my family is brhmn.i know them.as they are not indian they hate local indian.being very(2%)small in number and very lazy,they always conspired against others.
see libya attack.this war cannot be won.why zoinist has gone there.
right hand man of sarkoz is zoinist,he advised him to attack libya.
zoinists are master of human part trade and running brothels.both their trades is shinning.isreal has become sex capital of world.
brhnst are doing.they cannot live without war and voilence.26/11 and partition were perpetuated by them.
they were bootpolishers of muslims till british came.u cannot show single article written by them against muslims.when british came they joined hands with them and looted india with evry possible angle.
first 50 years of british raj ,half the population of bengal bihar and orrisa died of starvation.though food was available in godown.
Brahmins did not invade lands or practise missionary activity.
brhmns came from central asia.it is they who destroyed indus valley civilazation.they annihilated the budhhdists,decimated jainese enslaved local indians.
devdaasis were budhdhist nuns.
Kaalchakra and hiob,All major world religions have roots in Judaism or Aryan-Brahminism. Islam and Christianity both respect Jewish prophets as Budhism respects an upper caste Hindu. Christianity is bad in America, because the Zionist Jews and Zionist Christians hold hands. The Jews know how to take advantage of Jesus being a Jew. The Muslims, however, aren’t so blind. For the Muslim, it’s Human first, non-Human second; and for Budhists, it’s living first, non-living second. Two ethical models. The Jews can’t crack the Muslim equality code and the Hindus can’t crack the Budhist life equality code either.
However, the Brahmins try to make Budha an incarnation of Vishnu. They fail. The Jews try to make their right to the land of Israel based on the Bible a trick Christians will fall for. They succeed. This is why the Brahmins only have India, but the Jews have the whole world. Two cousin tribes, but the Jews are a little better at the game. Luckily China, Russia, Germany and the Muslim world are seeing through the Braminist-Zionist Cabal which I call Cabal Likud Arya
When a Kashmiry fellow is killed in Kashmir don’t you see blood coming out of his body is that water ? Blood FLOWS FREELY IN KASHMIR.Why the world is blind .When hundreds of Kashmiry people were killed in the valley of Kashmir .
Yazan bhai
Let’s grant all that you write is true about other religions. Let’s say they are all – or the ones you think so – are evil. But Islam could be evil too. Why do you want non-Muslims to not criticize Islam the way you criticize other religions?
I am curious because you are not the only one who thinks so but you have made it a mission of yours. I respect that – just want to understand what goes through your head to reach that conclusion
tajender springs from one position to another and there are too many contradictory statements that he makes. He attributes evil to whomever he dislikes. And then goes on to scold the next quarry.
I think discussing with him is meaningless so long he does not check out his own contradictions and irrational accusations based on conspiracy ideas. He has a history narration that is his own invention. May be he has people to him he can talk like that and he thinks everyone must accept his way of narration.
To Akram
Blood flows freely in Kashmir because Pakistan wants it that way. Indians and hindus react to the pakistani and muslim initiatives of violence and provocation after having a few dead of their own. Pakistan has a 64 year old policy that >>blood must flow in Kashmir<<. All such events can be tracked back and shall reveal this pakistani method and initiative. And we all know why muslims want blood to flow everywhere in the world. Islam is a religion that glorifies blood flow for its own imperialist fascist goals. There a is method and purpose behind that.
hiob
Yazan is my dear friend. He doesn’t jump from subject to subject. He very honestly stays focused on the subject of not allowing anyone to make any criticism of Islam anywhere.
That is not a bad worldview. People can discuss anything so long as they accept the superiority claims and dominance of a particular ideology and neither question it nor undermine it. So there is complete freedom if one merely redefines what freedom means.
All of us need to understand this quite broadly accepted view, and respect yazan for stating it clearly and consistently for many many years now.
Later.
Kaal! That tajender ferociously defends islam but does not become a muslim, strange indeed. He forgets the destruction of the Buddha statues in Bamiyan by the agents of islam in the name of the arab allah and his totalitarian worship form. And that is only the recent destruction, what to speak of the many earlier ones on Zoroastrianism and Buddhism in Iran, Bactria, Gandhar, Central Asia, North India, Indonesia etc.
It is as if a woman defends a rapist’s “right to rape” and puts the blame for all rapes on women. May be she secretly longs to be raped! Some (not only women) love victimhood and masochism.
If he reads the kuran intelligently and wisely then he will realize that the kuran is a book for manipulating human beings (through sweet promises, bribery and intimidation) to become zombies and mental slaves of a totalitarian ideology and quislings of arab imperialism.
Why are human beings blinded by hate-love emotions? Human perversions are truly impossible to comprehend.
Akram Malik,
First . islam following and pasand people have no right to be burden on indian natural resources and people after the partition of 47. Second , Majority of Sunni Kashmiri Muslamans are guilty of genocide and ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pundits who are the original inhabitants of Valley thus rightful owners of land. Karma is just punishing them for these Sunis for the bad deeds in this life and good for them. Civilized world is sick and tired of islamic terrorism ,sense of free entilement from the hard work of kaffirs and prepetual spreading of hands demanding give this or that while contributing nothing, nada.The complete lack of donation this time to help the victims of flooding in land of Pure Islam Pakistan should open your eyes to the reality. This stubborn indifference is the result of irrational islamic behaviour. Kuffar has no responsibility to teach or infuse civilzied human values to you guys.
It is very very shameful matter for Indian army that after so years stayed in Kashmir they could not pull out the Pakistani agents and their spotter kashmiries . As they did in Bang la dash .
As few of you said that there was no Islam in the subcontinent .that mean so called Muslims In the subcontinent are basically Hindus .Old Hindus are killing new Hindus .
hiob baniyan is repaired and now in original shape.budhhdist temple destoyed or occupied by brhmns are still in their hands.babri mosque destroyed by vedics is in ruins as before.
delhi is the rape capital of world not karachi or islamabad.600000 kashmiris are murdered in kashmir since 1947.on 6th nov 1947250000 residents were mascared by rss and raja of kashmir.ghandhi was silent.
to akram
1)
Indian army could not pull out pakistani agents and their kashmiri quislings and spotters because these agents and spotters hide behind or among women and children or in so-called houses of prayer. If any women or children get killed or hurt in the action then the pak press makes big propaganda about indians “ruthlessly” killing women and children – but no word about the heinous pak-sponsored cowardly terrorists who kill from behind women and children and from so-called houses of prayer.
2)
It is not old hindus killing new hindus – it is hindus who became of quislings of islam (i.e. ex-hindus) killing those hindus who preserved their self-respect and did not become quislings of islam and bootlickers of muslim aggressors inspite of all temptations and bribes and intimidations.
3)
Examine the historical-geographical expansion of islam of the past 1400 years and you will, if you are honest and humane, see how much imperialism, violence, aggression, loot, rape and genocide upon non-arabs and non-muslims islam and its agents have carried out from region to region. Local quislings of islamic imperialism also helped in this and profited from it. Pakistan is the result of this profiteering by the ex-hindu quislings of islam.
“That tajender ferociously defends islam but does not become a muslim, strange indeed.”
Hiob, not sure what you mean. How can yazan have greater faith than he already does?
Another thing. You mentioned that my friend yazan’s sense of history is unique. Nothing could be farther from the truth. It is THE history a very large number of people living in India grow up learning and are propagating even today. The odd thing is that the majority doesn’t have the foggiest idea what kind of history a signficant minority embraces.
Anyway, this discussion – an important one – belongs on a website focused on India, probably not PTH.
tohiob
Can you explain that how big a Kashmiry women or a child is ? that according to your logic .If you tell this thing to a five year old kid will not accept it.