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Are Ahmadis Non-Muslims?

By Yasser Latif Hamdani

(Written exclusively for PakTeaHouse. Please give credit when crossposting)

The poison of ignorance and extremism that Bhutto and General Zia jointly fathered during their dictatorial regimes has fully indoctrinated even those who otherwise describe themselves as educated.

This week the Large Hadron Collider at the CERN inched closer to the discovery of Higgs Boson or the God Particle as it were. In this extraordinary story of human achievement,  Dr. Abdus Salam is a key player who put Pakistan on the map of theoretical physics. In his homeland though, a group of self-styled champions of Islam have started a posthumous campaign of scurrilous slander claiming that Dr. Salam was giving out nuclear secrets. Forget that even a confirmed bigot like General Zia  held a ceremony in our only nobel prize winner’s honour or that no one ever accused Dr. Salam of any such thing; in Pakistan to be a hero you have to actually transfer technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

Now consider the case of 11 year old Sitara Akbar. Every Pakistani and his mother in law are citing her as a crowning national achievement, blissfully oblivious of the fact that she is an Ahmadi. To them her religion is suddenly unimportant or irrelevant or is it? How many Sitara Akbars have been expelled from our schools for being Ahmadi? How many productive citizens of this republic have been killed and maimed for believing differently?

Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s National Assembly imagined itself the Islamic equivalent of the Council of Nicea. Just as that ancient bastion of Christian orthodoxy excommunicated unitarian Christians for not believing in the trinity of the father, son and the holy ghost, the National Assembly saw it fit to – primarily at the instigation of the Prime Minister and his law minister- declare an entire sect non-Muslim. Just like the post hoc elevation of the principle of trinity at Nicea, Pakistan’s National Assembly located Islam in the principle of the finality of Prophethood.

This act of our sovereign legislature stood in sharp contrast to the view of this nation’s founding father. On 5 May, 1944, in response to demands of the orthodox vis a vis Ahmadis, Jinnah made it absolutely clear that anyone who professes to be a Muslim is a Muslim and welcome in the Muslim League and that those who were raising the issue were trying to divide the Muslims. Here I am forced to say that I am inclined to accept Jinnah’s view and reject the collective wisdom of our sovereign legislature. There are several reasons which may be cited in this regard:

  1. First and foremost Pakistan is bound by the United Nations’ charter. Therefore Pakistan is bound to ensure freedom of religion for all its citizens and freedom of religion means freedom of religion according to the definition of the subject of the said freedom.
  2. Identity is subjective not objective. The state of Pakistan or any other state cannot tell an Ahmadi that he is not a Muslim because it is intrinsic to the faith of an Ahmadi.  This is an inviolable, inalienable right as part of right to life which every state in the world is bound to protect. If Ahmadis say they are Muslims they ought to be accepted as such.
  3. Pakistan is a signatory to the ICCPR and without reservations since June 2011. Therefore every piece of legislation that discriminates against Ahmadis or forces a label upon them is ultra vires the ICCPR.
  4. The Islamic argument: According to the Holy Prophet (PBUH) anyone who utters the Kalima Shahadah is a Muslim. None of the Kalimas, including the Primary Kalima Shahadah contains any reference to the principle of the finality of Prophethood as understood by the Muslim majority today.
  5. Finally because by conduct and promise, Pakistani state is estopped from claiming otherwise. In 1947, Pakistan laid claim to Qadian as a Muslim holy place, a counter-blast to Sikh claims on Nankana Sahib and Hassan Abdal.  Similarly in 1946 elections which is the basic referendum on the question of Pakistan, Ahmadi votes were instrumental in getting Muslims Pakistan. These are undeniable facts of history.

 

Therefore- fully aware of the stigma attached to this statement- I concur with Quaid-e-Azam Mahomed Ali Jinnah, thefounding father of Pakistan that Ahmadis are Muslims, if they say they are Muslims and no one, not even the sovereign legislature, has the right to say otherwise.

 




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  1. AKB Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    @ KHAN ET ALL MIRJAI’S ….

    READ THIS AND REFRAIN FROM FALSEHOOD AND HOODWINKING INNOCENT PEOPLE..!!
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    QUOTES FROM MIRJAI SATANS!
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    QADIANI KHALIFA 2 MIRZA MAHMUD AHMAD AND HIS STOOGES QUOTES WITH REFERNCES AND PAGE NUMBERS:
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    “It. is our obligation that we do not consider non-ahmadis as muslims and do not pray behind them, because for us they have rejected one prophet (Mirza Ghulam) of God. This is a religious matter and no one has any right to do anything in it.”
    (Anwar-e-Khilafat, by Mirza Mahmood, Khalifa 2, p.90)

    “All muslims who are included in the initiation of Maseeh Mowood, even if they have not heard the name of Maseeh Mowood, they are Kafir and out of the fold of Islam. I admit that these are my beliefs.”
    (Aina-e-Sadaqat, by Mirza Mahmood, 2nd Khalifa, p.35)

    “Every one who accepts Moses but not Eisa or accepts Eisa but not Mohammad or accepts Mohammad but not Maseeh Mowood, he is not only Kafir but a hardened Kafir and is out of the fold of Islam.
    (Kalimat-alFasl by Mirza Basheer Ahmad s/o Mirza Ghulam p.110)

    Question: “Is it permitted to say May God Bless the departed soul, forgive him and send him to Paradise for a person who was not included in Ahmadiyyat?”
    Answer: “The KUFR of non-Ahmadis is proven by evident signs and it is not permitted to ask for forgiveness for non-believers (KUFFAR).”
    (Al-Fazl Qadian vol.8, No. 59, 7th Feb 1921)

    “Non-Ahmadis are the disbelievers therefore their funeral prayers should not be offered, but if an infant of non-ahmadi dies, why should we not pray his funaral prayer, he is not a disbeliever of Maseeh Mowood? I ask the inquirer, that if this is true than why don’t we offer funeral prayer of a Hindu or a Christian child? How many people offer their funeral prayer?” (Anwar-e-Khilafat, Mirza Mahmood, 2nd Khalifa, p.93)

    “It is the order of Hazrat Maseeh Mowood and firm order that no ahmadi should give his daughter to non-ahmadi. It is obligatory on every ahmadi to carry it out….. there is great loss in it, besides this marriage is not permitted.”
    (Barakat-e-Khilafat by Mirza Mehmood p.73)

    “Our prayers are separate from Non-ahmadis, it is forbidden to give our girls to them, we are stopped to offer their funeral prayers. Now what is left that we can participate with them? There are only two kinds of relations – religious and worldly. For religious relations, it is the gathering for prayers and for worldly relations, it is the marriage and both are forbidden for us.”
    (Mirza Basheer Ahmad, Kalimat alFasl p.169)

    “The point is now quite clear. If it is ‘Kufr’ (infedility) to deny the
    Gracious Prophet (Muhammad pbuh), it must also be ‘Kufr’ to deny the Promised Messiah, because the Promised Messiah is in no way a separate being from the Gracious Prophet; rather he is the same (Muhammad incarnate). If anyone is not deemed a Kafir for denying the Promised Messiah, then anyone else who denies the Gracious Prophet also cannot be considered a Kafir. How is it possible that denying him in his first birth as Prophet should be regarded as Kufr, but denying him in his (reincarnated) second birth as prophet should not be regarded as Kufr, when, as claimed by the Promised Messiah, his (Mirza’s birth as Muhammad incarnate) spiritual attainment is stronger, complete and severe.”
    (Kalimatul Fasl, pages 146-147, as cited in the Review of Religions, dated March-April 1915)

    “Any person who believes in Moses but does not believe in Christ, or believes in Christ but does not believe in Muhammad, or believes in Muhammad but does not believe in the Promised Messiah, is not only a Kafir, but a ‘pakka’ (confirmed) Kafir, and (he is) out of the fold of Islam.”
    (Kalimatul Fasl, page 110, by Mirza Bashir Ahmad, M.A.)

    “All such Muslims who did not swear allegiance to the promised Masih (Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian), even though they did not hear the name of the Promised Masih, are Kafir and debarred from the fold of Islam.”
    (Aiena-e-Sadaqat, page 35, by Mirza Mahmud Ahmad).

  2. AKB Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    MORE……

    ., MIRJA gHULLA OF QADIAN wrote in a letter to Abdul Hakeem Khan that all Muslims who dont accept his (MGAQ) message are Kafir, irregardless if they have heard his (MGAQ) name or not.

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1jnj9w&s=7

  3. Khan United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @AKB
    Six comments in a row. Do you talk to yourself? Not that I’m surprised. I mean, what else can we expect from a mentally handicapped person. Look! we’re not going to get uptight but you have already started throwing fits. Please don’t expect any sane and serious-minded person to respond to your last six consecutive idiotic comments. Questions or even objections coming from a sane person, always deserve a response. But issues raised by mentally sick people, deserve only to be ignored. You are a mentally sick person. You need sympathy, and treatment of course.

  4. parliament-certified muslim United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @Khan

    The following dialogue, reported by a parliament-certified Muslim, took place between two parliament-certified Muslims on top of a bridge:
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    He said, “Nobody loves me.”
    I said, “Allah loves you. Do you believe in Allah?”
    He said, “Yes, of course.”
    I said, “Are you a Muslim or a non-Muslim?”
    He said, “Muslim.”
    I said, “Me, too! Shia or Sunni?”
    He said, “Sunni.”
    I said, “Me, too! What mazhab?”
    He said, “Hanafi.”
    I said, “Me, too! Deobandi or Barelvi?”
    He said, “Barelvi.”
    I said, “Me too! Tanzeehi or Tafkeeri?”
    He said, “Tanzeehi.”
    I said, “Me, too! Tanzeehi Azmati or Tanzeehi Farhati?”
    He said, “Tanzeehi Farhati.”
    I said, “Me, too! Tanzeehi Farhati Jamia-tul-Uloom Ajmer, or Tanzeehi Farhati Jamia-tul-Noor Mewat?”
    He said, “Tanzeehi Farhati Jamia tul Noor Mewat.”
    I said, “Go to hell, kaafir!” and pushed him off the bridge.

    So, what’s the joke? What’s so funny? If you ask me, both these guys who were on the bridge should have been pushed off the bridge, because both were Barelvis. Barelvis might be Parliament-certified Muslims in Pakistan, but that’s not good enough. You have to be both: a certified Muslim certified by the parliament and constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and certified as a Muslim by the Islamic Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The Barelvis are considered kafirs by the true Wahabi ulema of Saudi Arabia.

  5. AKB Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    @PCM

    Am in fact ‘promoting’ this ancient and redundant thread started by YLH.
    and for that I have to keep on posting something relevant so as not to make the dangling thread wilt.
    .
    You referred to enmity between some other sects of Muslims but you overlooked the fact that NONE of the Muslim sects believes in you—ie Mirza Ghulla of Qadian’s novel deviation. ALL sects agree on the ‘fundamental tenets’ Of Islam, in particular the finality of prophethood of Prophet Muhammad, which only you, the Mirjai’s deny.
    This is the basic difference you are condemned by more than One Billion Muslims all over the world. Even the Hindu’s and Christians take you as traitors of your faith….and condemn you everywhere.
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    Unfortunately, the reasons given by Mirja Ghulla to assert his frofethood are baseless and frivolous, and it’s that dogma which makes you outcast and condemned forever.

  6. Khizer Pasha United Arab Emirates Google Chrome Windows says:

    I think Albert Einstein must have come across people like some of the commentators here that made him conclude “I love Humanity but I hate humans”. AKB, kya bolti too?

  7. AKB Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    @ Khizer Pasha

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    mein kia boloon
    Aatee ka khandala!!

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    yar ye mirzai itne kuttay kion hote hein??

  8. mahee United States Google Chrome  Nexus 7 Build/JDQ39) AppleWebKit/537.22 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/25.0.1364.123 Safari/537.22 says:

    Akb, bhai basic difference KO Rona choro,yeh btao is this fair to kill ahmadis and Christians in the name of Islam.you said all religions are following the message of peace and promoting it,then why the hell is it just yours khatmenabuwat ( in short khatme insaniyat) busy in spreading intolerance and hate, haven’t they ever recited Quran with translation , is what written in surah kaafiroon not worth following for them,was Allah swt joking with Holy prophet saw , haan !!! Ahmadis have been exemplary students of whichever country they live in, even Pakistan.where terrorist organizations like lashkarejhangvi ( in short lashkare wehshi darindgi) has shed blood of so many of kalma reciters ,what to talk of the poor non kalima reciters! You and the organizations like khat me insaniyat, and lashkare wehshi darindgi have defamed my beloved religion Islam, you have defamed the name of my beloved prophet Muhammed saw, you have invoked the curse of the rehman and raheem God , he must be loathing at you right now,more then me!

  9. mahee United States Google Chrome  Nexus 7 Build/JDQ39) AppleWebKit/537.22 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/25.0.1364.123 Safari/537.22 says:

    Ahmadis are not being condemned by anyone,as much as your parliament certified Islam, politician supported terrorist islamic organizations are, gore loving frustrated mullahs are,and biggotted psychotic religious fundos are.all the christian countries are providing amnesty to the ahmadi victims of violence of Pakistan.don’t talk bulls crap.know your facts before getting excited and spreading the same misguidance your psychotic religious leaders are spreading!!Hindus are not really falling in love with your religious beliefs of converting their women forcibly torturing Hindus, burn their houses like crazy mobs! Not even one Ahmadi musalman would ever do that!to him prophet Muhammed name matters more than you.with all due respect what good have you ever done to redeem the blessed sunnah of Muhammed except crying for his last hood! This blessed man of God ,promised Messiah of God has done more to reignite the spirit of Muhammed saw, by reinforcing the real Islam of Muhammed which you and lashkare darindgi brigade is busy maligning.have you thought how putrid the thought Islam and blasphemy has become because of you to nonbelievers. What Allah is this barbaric to be glad by these acts of barbarism and heinous bloodshed! Ask yourself before any of your maulana tariq jameel and co,is this Islam the real one! Is this the sunnah we were asked to follow.we needed a messiah, and we are lucky to have him! We needed his reiteration.we needed the real Islam.we are mislead without him!misguidance and corruption in Islam is so widespread now that it has enfolded The guardians of holy kabbah who are renowned for biggottry.so we need guidance again.and we have this beacon of light right in front of us.

  10. arkmb Pakistan Safari Mac OS says:

    تہران (نیوز ڈیسک)پاکستان میں شیعہ مسلمانوں کے خلاف تشدد کے بڑھتے ہوئے واقعات پر باقاعدہ احتجاج ریکارڈ کرانے کے لیے ایرانی پارلیمنٹ ’مجلس‘ پاکستانی سفیرکو طلب کر رہی ہے۔
    مجلس کی قومی سلامتی اور خارجہ امور کمیٹی کے ترجمان سید حسین نقوی حسینی نے تہران میں پاکستانی سفیر خالد عزیز بابر کو عنقریب طلب کیے جانے کی تصدیق کرتے ہوئے کہاکہ ایرانی اراکین پارلیمان پاکستان میں شیعہ مسلمانوں کے قتل عام کے خلاف احتجاجی بیان بھی جاری کرینگے۔
    ایران کے سرکاری ’پریس ٹی وی‘ سے بات کرتے ہوئے انہوں نے بتایا کہ ارکان مجلس پر مشتمل ایک وفد پاکستان کو دورہ بھی کرے گا، جس میں وہ دہشت گردی کا شکار خاندانوں اور حکومتی اہلکاروں سے ملاقاتیں کرے گا۔ ’ہمارا حکومت پاکستان سے مطالبہ ہوگا کہ قاتلوں کو گرفتار کر کے سزائیں دی جائیں اور شیعہ مسلمانوں کے جان ومال کے تحفظ کا فول پروف انتظام کیا جائے۔‘
    سنیچر کو تہران اور قم کے تمام مدارس پاکستان میں شیعہ مسلمانوں کے قتل کے خلاف احتجاجاً بند رہے جبکہ ان کے اساتذہ اور طلباء نے احتجاجی مظاہرے کیے۔ مظاہرین نے پاکستان میں شیعہ ’قتل عام‘ پر بین الاقوامی تنظیموں کی خاموشی کا مجرمانہ قرار دیا۔ان کا کہنا تھا کہ پاکستان میں شیعہ مخالف دہشت گردوں کو امریکہ اور اسرائیل کی مدد حاصل ہے۔ تہران میں مظاہرین کی قیادت مجلس علماء کے سربراہ آیت اللہ محمد رضا مہدوی کانی نے کی۔
    پاکستان میں شیعہ تنظیموں کا کہنا ہے کہ ملک میں شیعہ مسلمانوں کی نسل کشی کی جا رہی اور ریاست خاموش تماشائی بنی ہوئی ہے۔ فاٹا میں کرم ایجنسی میں دوہزار سات سے شیعہ مسلمانوں کے لیے عرصہ حیات تنگ کیا جا رہا ہے اور اب یہی سلسلہ کوئٹہ، کراچی اور ملک کے دوسرے حصوں میں پھیلتا جا رہا ہے۔
    کوئٹہ میں دو ماہ کے اندردو مرتبہ ہزارہ شیعہ کمیونٹی کو دہشتگردی کا سامنا کرنا پڑا جبکہ کچھ روز قبل کراچی میں بھی شیعہ اکثریتی آبادی والے علاقے عباس ٹاؤن کو دہشت گردوں نے نشانہ بنایا۔ ان تیں واقعات میں ہلاک ہونے والوں کی تعداد اڑھائی سو کے لگ بھگ ہے جبکہ گزشتہ سال چار سو سے زائد شیعہ

  11. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome  Nexus 7 Build/JDQ39) AppleWebKit/537.22 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/25.0.1364.123 Safari/537.22 says:

    Akb,
    This is just very lame and absurd of you to blame ahmadis for something which you yourself are legitimatly doing.if ahmadis do not accept non believers of promised messiah hazrat Mirza ghulam Ahmed qadiani there’s a very valid reason for it!Hazrat Mirza ghulam Ahmed was a prophet of God. His coming was holy!he was true lover hazrat Muhammed saw,he was **fanafir rasool**!he was sent to spread enlightenment again.sent to clarify some misconceptions.reiterate the spirit of Islam in our soul.to renounce the malpractices of shirk which has come in enormous amounts in the believers with the passage of time! He came to destroy the shrines of demigods which us Muslims have created ourselves as adjunct for our Islam.
    He came as a prophet.he was sent by Allah, he was holy.his teachings are from direct commands of Allah .the fuullfillment of his prophecies word by word by Allah to prove his being holy was a real happening and no joke.
    So yes,those who heard his message and ignored it are not Muslims. But saying this ,does not mean that ahmadis should kill non ahmadis or make their life miserable! This is exactly what promissed messiah has engaged in direct compliance with his beloved Muhammad saw.instead ahmadis practice tolerance love for all and make themselves a role model as devotees of Muhammed saw for non believers to be attracted.to impress non believers.to spread love and peace! You have spread enough meaningless hatred now go save your religion instead of last hood. The real glory of Muhammed is in peace and amnesty for all,which us ahmadis know but parliament certified Muslim and akb doesn’t.

  12. mahee United Kingdom Google Chrome  Nexus 7 Build/JDQ39) AppleWebKit/537.22 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/25.0.1364.123 Safari/537.22 says:

    * ^3rd para fifth line, * engaged incorrect , correction : negated*

  13. truthpower United Kingdom Google Chrome  Nexus 7 Build/JDQ39) AppleWebKit/537.22 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/25.0.1364.123 Safari/537.22 says:

    Mahee,
    Adding further relevance to the point above,I would say promised messiah has no where claimed the arrival of new shariat.unlike all the rest of false prophets. So stop comparing him to those. He never claimed bringing of a new Islam.he never promoted himself over hazrat Muhammed saw .unlike all the rest of false prophets.his entire life mission was to reiterate the true status of Holy Prophet saw.to glorify his name. Where in his literature do you find anything against hazrat Muhammed saw or Islam.unlike all the rest of false prophets! He was a true and unconditional devotee of Hazrat Muhammed saw.its for a fact that true love of Muhammed saw can exactly bless you with honour more than you can imagine.this is the sincere most, rather this should be the sincere most belief of a true Muslim. The real sirate mustaqeem is indeed in following with devotion Hazrat Muhammed Saw, so much blessed and prolific this path is that it can definitely exalt you with status of being a subservient prophet to Hazrat Muhammed saw if you reach the top most extreme of that love and devotion.if only your eyes could see this lively sights of a living God.who still believes in his people, who hasn’t lost hope yet.coming of messiah is a positive sign.he still loves his creation,that he is sending a messenger to guide and clarify. If only you are willing to open your shutoff brains.

  14. Syed United States Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @AKB (March 10, 2013 at 12:27 am)
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    //…ye mirzai itne kuttay kion hote hein??…//

    .

    Mian, baat ye hai ke Mirzai aap ke samney aainey utthae kharhey hain. Wo sirf itna chahtey hain ke kissi tarha aap ko aap ka chehra-e-mubarak, aik baar dikha dein. Aap jab apney chehray ke samney, unn ke utthae huwe aainon mein daikhtey hain, to aap ko unn aainon mein kuttay dikhai daitey hain. Phir aap intihai masoomiat se poochtey hain ke “..ye mirzai itne kuttay kion hote hein??..”.

  15. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @Syed

    kis ne kaha ke tum kafir doosraon ke aagay aaina uthaO?? mian aainay mein perhle apni makrooh shakl dekho….aur khuda se daro. Mirja Ghulla sandaas mein mar gaya ab tu us kee jaan chod do!

  16. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ syed mayyat @ mahee tabahi

    I almost agree with truthpower and rest my point here. First settle your score with him and then challenge this ”heavy weight’ Mussalman!

  17. truth power United States Google Chrome  Nexus 7 Build/JDQ39) AppleWebKit/537.22 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/25.0.1364.123 Safari/537.22 says:

    Akb,
    Let’s settle our scores here.if you agree with my points above, then to hell with mahee.you should realize I’m trying to explain the great posture of hazrat Mirza ghulam Ahmed.and how meaningless and absurd comparing him with false prophets is. He was a truely holy man akb sahab.you could never in your previous posts prove his death sight but you remain to chose blind foolishness over logic.
    Also,before calling yourself heavy weight musalmaan and others kutta, think of becoming a heavy weight insaan first.you must have a mehraab on your head,but of what good it is when it keeps spreading hatred and insult and abuse.a little humanity can solve alot of issues which currently are destroying pakistan.not that i belive every sunni muslim is lashkare jhangvi there are certainly many good ones and some bad ones.
    You are not really religiously obligated to keep writing shit on this page.that doesn’t really make you the heavy weight musalman.join the ahmaddiya humanity first force help humanity.spread love and peace.meet Ahmadi people see for yourself how bad of a Muslims they are.how badly they are taking name of hazrat Muhammed saw.and how badly passionate they are to displease god….. Till then! Tchuss

  18. cheenee United Kingdom Safari Unknow Os says:

    Akb,
    Why are u wasting your time on satan infested brains? If they do not understand that Prophet Muhammad (saw) was the last prophet and messenger, stated so many times by the prophet Himself leave them alone they will not understand *alas Allah is punishing them !.

  19. USMAN United States Opera Mini Unknow Os says:

    First of all, i like to stress on the defination of muslim: any one who believes in unity and oneness of Allah and believes as prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as seal of prophet hood, and believes in the gist of articles of faith. If ahmedis do this, they are muslim. If not, they are kafirs, no matter what they claim. However, they have same rights as possessed by any human. Discriminatory behavior and oppression against them in pakistan is unfair and un islamic

  20. Parliament-certified Muslim United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @cheenee

    Don’t worry, my Cheenee brother. Soon, your country Cheen (China), alongwith Saudi Arabia and India, will accede to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, and the following words of Hazrat Allama Iqbal Musawwir-e-Pakistan will be finally fulfilled:

    “Cheen-o-Arab hamara, Hindostan hamara”

    Then, you will see that the Islamic Republic of Pakistan will comprise of the following provinces, in accordance with the dream of Hazrat Musawwir-e-Pakistan:

    1. Sooba Punjab

    2. Sooba Sindh

    3. Sooba Khyber Pakhtoonkhwa

    4. Sooba Balochistan

    5. Sooba Cheen

    6. Sooba Arab

    7. Sooba Hindostan

    In the forth-coming elections, the Tehrik-e-taliban Pakistan, with the financial and spiritual assistance of Mumlikat al Saudia al Arabia al Islamia al Wahabia al Salafia, is giong to come into power. Then, you will see that Cheen-o-Arab hamara hoga aur Hindostan bhi hamara hoga. They will accede to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and all their citizens must become Parliament-Certified Muslims.

  21. Khan United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @USMAN

    First of all, i like to stress on the defination of muslim: any one who believes in unity and oneness of Allah and believes as prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as seal of prophet hood, and believes in the gist of articles of faith. If ahmedis do this, they are muslim. If not, they are kafirs, no matter what they claim. However, they have same rights as possessed by any human. Discriminatory behavior and oppression against them in pakistan is unfair and un islamic

    Thank you for that decent comment. As a Muslim belonging to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat, I will be more than glad to inform you of my beliefs:

    .

    1. We Ahmadi Muslims believe that there is none worthy of worship but Allah, the one and only God. We Ahmadi Muslims believe that Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) is the Messenger of Allah and the Khaatam-un-Nabiyyeen, as stated in the Holy Quran

    2. We Ahmadi Muslims believe in all the Malaaika (Angels of Allah)

    3. We Ahmadi Muslims believe in all the Rusul (Messengers of Allah)

    4. We Ahmadi Muslims believe in all the Kutub (Books of Allah)

    5. We Ahmadi Muslims believe in the Aakhira (Hereafter)

    .

    Coming to the Five Pillars of Islam:

    .

    1. We Ahmadi Muslims believe in and recite the Kalima Laa ilaaha illallah Muhammad ur rasoolullah

    2. We Ahmadi Muslims offer the prescribed Salat five times a day – Fajr, Zuhr, Asr, Maghrib and Isha

    3. We Ahmadi Muslims pay Zakat

    4. We Ahmadi Muslims observe the fasts of Ramadan

    5. We Ahmadi Muslims go for Hajj to Makkah

    .

    Would you like to inform us of your good religious beliefs ?

  22. abc Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    ^@Khan

    We cannot perform Hajj. Ahamdis are banned from entering Makkah(courtesy SA & Pakistan).

  23. Rashid United States Internet Explorer Windows says:

    PLEASE GO TO FOLLOWING LINK AND READ FOR YOURSELF HOW QADIANI KHALIFA 3 MIRZA NASIR AHMAD MADE COMPLETE SOMMERSAULTS UNDER PRESSURE IN PAKISTAN NATIONAL ASSEMBLY IN 1974. HE BASICALLY CHANGED HIS BELIEFS AND LIED. THIS HE WAS ABLE TO DO BECAUSE HE KNEW PPP GOVERNMENT PLANNED TO KEEP ALL NATIONAL ASSEMBLY RECORD AS SECRET. BUT IN 2012 THE LAST PPP GOVERNMENT MADE IT PUBLIC AND I HAVE COMMENTED ON QK3 MIRZA NASIR AHMAD COMMENTS:

    http://ahmadiyya.org/WordPress/2012/12/25/comments-on-mirza-nasir-ahmads-answers-at-the-national-assembly-1974/

  24. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Cheen-o-Arab hamara, Hindostan hamara”

    hindi hain hum watan hai hindostan hamara

  25. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    aie abroode ganga
    woh din hai yaad tujhko
    utra tere kinare
    jab carvan hamara
    kutch baat hai ki hasti mittee nahin hamari
    sadiyonraha hai dushman
    daure jaman hamara.

    great allama iqbal.dont distort him.

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