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Are Ahmadis Non-Muslims?

By Yasser Latif Hamdani

(Written exclusively for PakTeaHouse. Please give credit when crossposting)

The poison of ignorance and extremism that Bhutto and General Zia jointly fathered during their dictatorial regimes has fully indoctrinated even those who otherwise describe themselves as educated.

This week the Large Hadron Collider at the CERN inched closer to the discovery of Higgs Boson or the God Particle as it were. In this extraordinary story of human achievement,  Dr. Abdus Salam is a key player who put Pakistan on the map of theoretical physics. In his homeland though, a group of self-styled champions of Islam have started a posthumous campaign of scurrilous slander claiming that Dr. Salam was giving out nuclear secrets. Forget that even a confirmed bigot like General Zia  held a ceremony in our only nobel prize winner’s honour or that no one ever accused Dr. Salam of any such thing; in Pakistan to be a hero you have to actually transfer technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

Now consider the case of 11 year old Sitara Akbar. Every Pakistani and his mother in law are citing her as a crowning national achievement, blissfully oblivious of the fact that she is an Ahmadi. To them her religion is suddenly unimportant or irrelevant or is it? How many Sitara Akbars have been expelled from our schools for being Ahmadi? How many productive citizens of this republic have been killed and maimed for believing differently?

Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s National Assembly imagined itself the Islamic equivalent of the Council of Nicea. Just as that ancient bastion of Christian orthodoxy excommunicated unitarian Christians for not believing in the trinity of the father, son and the holy ghost, the National Assembly saw it fit to – primarily at the instigation of the Prime Minister and his law minister- declare an entire sect non-Muslim. Just like the post hoc elevation of the principle of trinity at Nicea, Pakistan’s National Assembly located Islam in the principle of the finality of Prophethood.

This act of our sovereign legislature stood in sharp contrast to the view of this nation’s founding father. On 5 May, 1944, in response to demands of the orthodox vis a vis Ahmadis, Jinnah made it absolutely clear that anyone who professes to be a Muslim is a Muslim and welcome in the Muslim League and that those who were raising the issue were trying to divide the Muslims. Here I am forced to say that I am inclined to accept Jinnah’s view and reject the collective wisdom of our sovereign legislature. There are several reasons which may be cited in this regard:

  1. First and foremost Pakistan is bound by the United Nations’ charter. Therefore Pakistan is bound to ensure freedom of religion for all its citizens and freedom of religion means freedom of religion according to the definition of the subject of the said freedom.
  2. Identity is subjective not objective. The state of Pakistan or any other state cannot tell an Ahmadi that he is not a Muslim because it is intrinsic to the faith of an Ahmadi.  This is an inviolable, inalienable right as part of right to life which every state in the world is bound to protect. If Ahmadis say they are Muslims they ought to be accepted as such.
  3. Pakistan is a signatory to the ICCPR and without reservations since June 2011. Therefore every piece of legislation that discriminates against Ahmadis or forces a label upon them is ultra vires the ICCPR.
  4. The Islamic argument: According to the Holy Prophet (PBUH) anyone who utters the Kalima Shahadah is a Muslim. None of the Kalimas, including the Primary Kalima Shahadah contains any reference to the principle of the finality of Prophethood as understood by the Muslim majority today.
  5. Finally because by conduct and promise, Pakistani state is estopped from claiming otherwise. In 1947, Pakistan laid claim to Qadian as a Muslim holy place, a counter-blast to Sikh claims on Nankana Sahib and Hassan Abdal.  Similarly in 1946 elections which is the basic referendum on the question of Pakistan, Ahmadi votes were instrumental in getting Muslims Pakistan. These are undeniable facts of history.

 

Therefore- fully aware of the stigma attached to this statement- I concur with Quaid-e-Azam Mahomed Ali Jinnah, thefounding father of Pakistan that Ahmadis are Muslims, if they say they are Muslims and no one, not even the sovereign legislature, has the right to say otherwise.

 




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  1. akb Pakistan Safari Unknow Os says:

    @ all Mirjai deviates

    ONE LION IS BETTER THAN A 100 deranged hetetic non Muslim Mirjai DOGS!! They better go n see a vet fr uplift.
    Dogs calling mods fr help…..not realising they must already be knowing MIRJAI DOGS inability to scare off a MUSLA lion with their litaneous bark!! Shame on you heretic mirjai’s fr peeing in yr pajamas!!!

  2. akb Pakistan Safari Unknow Os says:

    MIRJAI KUTTE KIA HEIN??
    RAANDA E DARGAH HEIN

    AALAISH O AFOONAT HEIN
    MURTED HEIN R TABAH HEIN!

  3. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Mirja Ghulla of Qadian said: any religion without a prophet is a dead religion’. Does that mean all religions of the world including the cult of Mirjai’s is DEAD because none of these have any living prophet? Would it be right to say all the successors of Mirja Ghulla of Qadian are/were frofets?? What frigging good they have brought to the world? How have they changed the world? Shall the Mirjai’s have frofet after frofet until their number reaches the 124000 ? What about prophets and gods of other religions??
    Will some good mUrjai ( if there is one) explain this to the public at large??
    .
    PAGAL NA BANA APNI BATOAN SE
    LOG SAB SAMAJHTE HEIN LULLOO!
    KON JHOOTA HE KON SACHHA HE
    SUUN TUN TANA TUN TUN TUNNO!!

  4. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ mahee (makhee)

    what beacon?? the beacon that is doomed in darkness??
    YES, MIRZAI’S ARE NON MUSLIMS…..
    SEND THEM TO SAUDIA FOR OVERHAUL!!

  5. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    UTH OAY GUJRA AYS MAKHEE NU BUNNAY LA, AYWAYN PAYEE BHIN BHIN KAR DEE VAY!!
    .
    OAY KARTARAYA!! MAHEE TAY KURYAAN DA NAA’N HONDA VAY…AY MUNDA BHAWAYS LAGDA VAY WARNA ZANANI DAY NAAM DE OHLAY APNA NAA’M NA LUKAANDA!! UTH AINOO PHAR KE MASALA PA!

  6. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    aS Hazrat Masih e mauood , Hazrat Mirza Ghlam Ahmed (a.s) was writing this poem and he wrote this verse that said”"har naiki ki jarr itiqa hai”"(the root of every noble deed is piety,this verse poem was completed by Allah himself when a voice from unseen said to Hazrat Mirza Ghula Ahmad (a.s)
    “”yeh nahi baaki ,tou kuch bhi na raha hai”"”

  7. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    As Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed (a.s) said in his famous book brahinay ahmadiyya, about “”HASTI BAARI TAALA”" “the GOD ALMIGHTY”,
    he says there are five arguments about the existence of GOD:
    1.NAFS KI GUWAHI , the Testification that one,s soul gives.
    when a human no matter of what religion he is , whether he believes in God or not , but in situation of extreme misery in that spur of a moment when he sees himself failing or dying there is a voice inside him that says there is God out there and He will help me, no matter who that person is when the ship of his life is sinking and there is no other choice the one and only thing he does is that he asks for God’s help, and when by the will of God his prayers are answered and the ship doesnt not sink, the first thing that human does on reaching the shore is that he forgets God, Even though his soul tesfied in favour of Godly presence and he saw it happening with his own eyes yet as they say to err is to human ” that man forgot GOD”..

  8. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    SECOND ARGUMENT THAT THE Promissed Messiah gives for Godly presence is
    2. Sadikeen ki Guwahi,( Testification of the most truthfull):
    now of all those 1 lac, 24 thousand prophets that came none of them was a liar, they were all men of great piety and the most truthful! when in a court hearing you have a witness testifying for or against something, one thing you make sure is that is this man truthful? you try to ensure that by making him take oath on a holy book but all you want to do is ensure his honesty. so when a man called Muhammed (saW) appeared on a mountain of mecca and declared that there is one GOD ALLAH, and he is his prophet what quraish do , they renounce it, hey defy him and his declaration even though this man Muhammed (s.a.w) was the most truthful, man of mecca his truthfullness was guaranteed by the entire communty of quraish , so when they are asked by Mohammed (s.a.w) am i not truthful? they say no you are the most truthful but when he says i am the prophet of God they say no you are not! so as Promissed Messiah says this rebelliousnous is inside human.the second argument is loud and clear that we accept the “” testification of the most truthful”".

  9. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    THIRD ARGUMENT Given BY HAZRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMED(a.s) :
    3.nothing in this world no matter how big or small it is cannot be made on it,s own!nothing can self create it self!when you see something you cannot think it appeared on it,s own self , you always know that thing was made in this factory with these ingredients. so how can you imagine a universe so big becoming what it is on its own!how can you simply believe something as humongous appeared on its ownself without any maker!that is simply not possible or rational no matter what science it,s been unable to prove anything concrete, simply because the knowledge of the unseen is only with God and none else, who created everything.

  10. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    HAZRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMED (a.s) gave this FOURTH ARGUMENT:
    4. The coming true of prayers,God listens to every ones prayers he not listens to them but fullfills them the way he wills!prayers is a private matter, its in privacy that we ask GOD something and its only we who know when that prayer comes true.Its between our hearts and GOD what we ask HIM and when it comes true. Its only we who bare witness to that time when our wish is heard and fullfilled by GOD.

  11. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    HAZRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMED (a.s) and fifth argument he gave for the Godly presence is:
    5:when GOD communicates with humans through dreams.No matter whoever that person is a sinner or a noble men, a muslim or christian its an experience that majority has been through watching the dreams come true. When in dreams sometimes GOD gives his man glad tidings of something good coming up in his life or a bad news for something sad coming up in his life!Majority of us have been able to experience it.God talking to them in some form.Dreams are mostly metaphorical but when GOD wants to make the message very clear to dreamer he makes it pretty clear.But thats another story whether we are able to decipher it,s GOD’s voice or not because in able to listen to him our hearts and minds should be pure and sin free!!But God talks.
    AS Hazrat Masih e mauood says ” GOD doesnot only listen he speaks as well” just like he spoke with Hazrat Masih e maoud (a.s) he speaks with his pious people, Yes he has not stopped speaking, after the death OF HOLY PROPHET (S.A.W), he is alive and speaking.

  12. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    IN “risal ul wasiyat” : Hazrat Masih e mauood (a.s) says GOD speaks in simplitude of various beings with those who are his divine people revelations, kashfs and roya! but more commonly and usually the deceased relative of someone comes in dreams giving some news’ that is GOD talking in simplitude of that deceased person…..

  13. A Pakistani United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @AKB
    I’ve been following your comments. I disagree with some of the people here, who think you need psychiatric help. I think you need a Brain Transplant. In fact, if you had your brain replaced with a donkey’s brain, I think your IQ should go up substantially.

  14. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    MUSLIMS REJECT MIRZA GHULLA OF QADIAN AS MESSY MESSIHA ETC AND DEEM HIM A HERETIC. SO HE COMMAND NO RESPECT FROM MUSLIMS, HINDU’S OR CHRISTIANS FOR INFILTERATING THERE RESPECTIVE RELIGIONS AND CONCOCTING A FRIVOLOUS CULT BASED ON HIS SELL ASSERTION OF DREAMS,, WICKED VOICE OF HIS SOUL ETC ETC
    MIRJZ GHULLA MUST HAVE MADE FREUD AND MME BLAVATSKY TURN IN THEIR GRAVES WITH THE FANTASTIC REASONS YOUR MIRZA GHULLA ASSERTED TO MAKE BELIEVE YOU WEAK MINDED PEOPLE IN HIS FALSE FROFETHOOD.
    .

    YOU SHOULD BETTER GO TO COUNTRIES OTHER THAN PAKISTAN ( BECAUSE YOU DEFY PAKISTAN AND ITS LAWS) AND PREACH WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE AND SEE THE RESULT FOR YERSELF….PEOPLE WILL BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU IF SAID ALL THAT PUBLICLY. INFACT, AS SOON AS INTERNET LAWS ARE ENFORCED IN PAKISTAN YOU SHALL BE HELD FOR BLASPHEMY FOR WHAT YOU BLOG HERE AS YOUR PROPAGANDA MISSION AND INSULT TO MUSLIMS OF PAKISTAN , INDIA , SAUDIA, ME, BANGLEDESH , INDONESIA, MALAYSIA ,, ETC ETC AND YOU WILL HAVE TO FACE THE MUSIC.

    ..

    FOOL’S DREAM, HAVE VISIONS AND MAKE PROPHESIES….PROPHETS PROVE THEMSELVES MAINLY THROUGH THEIR ACTIONS. MIRJA WAS A DERANGED PERSON INVENTING HIS OWN ABSTRACT BULLSHIT TO SELF ASSERT HISSELD AS A FALSE FROFET (THE SAME BEING REJECTED BY LAHORI MIRZAI GROUP FOR UNDERSTANDABLE REASONS) ….THANKS TO THE BLASPEPHEMY LAWS THAT THEY ARE THERE TO MAKE YOU KEEP YOUR HEAD LEVEL AND STOP FROM PUBLICLY FARTING OUT YOUR QUIXOTIC OUTREACHES AND EVIL FANTASIES WITH THE MOTIVE OF DISTURBING PEACE AND HARMONY AMONG MUSLIMS….BUT YOU WILL NEVER SUCCEED AS FALSE THINGS DO NOT LAST LONG! JAALI FROFET HAD AN ACCURSED DEATH IN THE TOILET .. THAT’S THE FATE OF WICKED PEOPLE WHO TWIST FACTS WITH ABSTRACT REASONS AND VERBAL PLOYS!

  15. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    A Pakistani

    IF I DID AS YOU FARTED THE DEVIATE MIRZAI’S WILL ATONCE TAKE ME AS THEIR YET ANOTHER FROFET TO THE LOST OF OTHERS. HENCE I AM WHAT I AM AND YOU ARE A CREATURE OF THE GUTTER!!

  16. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ mahee aka makhee

    Wow!! Mirza tried to pull Ghalib’s and Iqbal;s leg!!

    here’s the funny make believe story!! ha!….[”"har naiki ki jarr itiqa hai”"(the root of every noble deed is piety,this verse poem was completed by Allah himself when a voice from unseen said to Hazrat Mirza Ghula Ahmad (a.s)
    “”yeh nahi baaki ,tou kuch bhi na raha hai”"”]

    ..

    “har naiki ki jarr itiqa hai””
    “”yeh nahi baaki ,tou kuch bhi na raha hai….by Mirja Ghulla ..note the sarf o nehw (syntax) of his verse …both are wrong!!

    .

    another bard said it like this but didn’t say it was ”’ from unseen messenger from Allah!!” —-amazing that Allah could also speak to Mirja through Urdu language, Arabic being his medium!!
    Mirja kee khopri mein gobar bhara hua he
    “”yeh nahi baaki ,tou kuch bhi na raha hai
    .
    angraiz kee ghulami mein aata bara maza hai
    milte hein pound mujhko yehi mera itiqa hai!
    .
    khwaboan se mein ne seekha mazhab naya nirala
    shaitaan se bhi aagay mera qadam para hai!

    .
    lafzoan mein hera pheri karna mujhe rawa he
    Shaitan ki aulad hoon khatm mujh pe her bala hai!

    .
    diwangee ko meri samjhe tu kuch hee samjhe
    jhoota nabi banaya unkee yehi saza hai!
    .
    ta hashr muslimoan ke laanat ka mein sabab hoon
    iblees kee hoon aulad aur na mera koi khuda hair

  17. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ mahee aka makhee

    abay charya kashf tu aam admi ko bhi hota he, mudoan se jo batein kartein hein aksar pagal ho kar martay hein…bhala murda kia kisi ko basharat de sakta he?? zauf ul aqeeda logoan kee tarah kee batein mat karo…warna her doosra aadmi keh sakta he ke ussed ghayb se falaan falaan hukm mila he ..phir ye muamla sirf musloan tak hee kion mehdood ho?/ her insaan ko aisay twaham se sabiqa parta he!! aisee batoan se koi nabi nahi ban sakta….
    warna jitnay bhi sabiqa aur mojooda fraudster or cheats hein apni apni nabuwat ka aylaan kar saktay hein.
    kia acha hota jo tum mirja ghulla aaf qadian ko Khuda bana letay….eeman se poori dunya kee qismet sanwar jaati kionke woh angraix maharaj ka ghullam tha aur aaj kar goroan hee ke chalti he!!
    .

    you cannot convince anybody be it muslim hindu or eeasai of the status of mirja ghulla through this fantasy described by you….
    a look at mirja makes one vomit….what an ugly and wicked face that deviate mullah had!!

  18. Sharif United Kingdom Safari iPad says:

    Well by looking at the language one can fully understand who is right and who is wrong .
    LA ILLAhA ILALLAH MUHMMADUR RASOLILLAH.

  19. MilesToGo United States Safari Mac OS says:

    only muhammed’s true follower can speak such a passionate language…

  20. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    @parliament certified muslim when you say:
    ////”"The only best, true, genuine, asli and khalis Muslims are the Salafi/Wahhabi/Ahl-i-hadith/Deobandi Muslims. These Muslims are not only “Parliament-Certified”, they are also “Saudi-Certified”. Barelvis, Taqlidis, Shias, Dawoodis, Ismailis, Ahl-i-Quran etc, although “Parliament-Certified Muslims” in Pakistan, are not in the true sense “Saudi-Certified Muslims”, and hence not “true Muslims”. Qadeanis are kuffar, murtad and goners. My throat is shaking as I say these words”"”"//////.

    are you seriuosly kidding me, has every atom of faith inside you died, that you need a parliament to certify who is muslim and who is not.Is this parliament of your’s headed by Holy Prophet (pbuh), or the Khilafat e Rashada. well let me remind what the first parliament of the first kingdom of islam under yazid which was full of religious scholars and some of them sahabas gave ruling in the month of muharram 61 AH, they passed this fatwa that said Hazrat Imam Hussain (a.s) is a kaafir, rebel and should be killed!!BRAVO on this parliament of islam..you seriously have the sanity to believe in the parliament for giving judgement on someone’s faith? No i dont think so let this matter be left with GOD to decide as humans and their history gives enough evidence to support my claim that they are not worthy of deciding matters of faith except when its parliament is headed by Prophet (pbuh) or one of the four khalifas of khilafat e rashda!”"which is not possible.
    If this parliament of yours, which your specifically referring to in this case would have been so worthy , facts like these in the link below would not have come to surface about the saudis:
    http://www.religionnews.com/blogs/omid-safi/saudis-say-no-to-the-prophet-muhammad-yes-to-paris-hilton,

    it makes me really sad to break this news to you, but your bubble about the parliament must be broken.Its time for a parliament certified muslim like you to realize that every man reciting kalma is a muslim, you cannot do anything to change this rule, no matter who he a is shia , wahabi , ahle hadees or an ahmadi!this is the fate that God himself has decided and there is no room for change in it!whoever is doing this is bringing his faith into question and mallifying his own religion.The pakistani govt and saudi govt both are famous for their notoriety none of the above is clean and no truthful man of god can take oath on Quran and testify that these parliaments are functioning flawlessly! Can you mr/miss PARLIAMENT CERTIFIED MUSLIM testify that on Quran??!
    Infact THEY are pretty messed up actually!!!
    WE ahmadis are proud of ourselves because ALLAH has tested us in the same way as Hazrat IMAM Hussain (a.s) was tested and ALHAMDULILAH , we facing the persecution and remaining determined on our faith in the face of it , we will succeed INSHALLAH! just like Imam Hussain (A.S) DID , fight for Islam and got martyred in the way of ALLAH , we are too fighting and giving our lives everyday.Just like IMAM HUSSAIN(A.S) WAS THE TRUE RESTORER OF ISLAM, after death of HOLY Prophet, ahmadis will keep following his example he is our role model.
    true islam will be restored one day because of ahmadis.

  21. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    to support my argument i would like to quote the most sane leader, PAKISTANI parliament could ever get Quaid-e-Azam Mahomed Ali Jinnah, the founding father of Pakistan said “”"that Ahmadis are Muslims, if they say they are Muslims and no one, not even the sovereign legislature, has the right to say otherwise”"”.
    ANY pakistani who has to defer with his own founding father’s words is not worthy of living in pakistan.HE/SHE should immediately excavate Pakistan.

  22. truth power United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @ AKB (A RUNAWAY FROM THE CHARYA WARD WHO IS FAMOUS IN THE HOSPITAL FOR TALKING TO AN IMAGINARY FRIEND OF HIS LUCI AKA LUCIFER)
    SO MR AKB WHNE YOU SAY ///*** abay charya kashf tu aam admi ko bhi hota he, mudoan se jo batein kartein hein aksar pagal ho kar martay hein…bhala murda kia kisi ko basharat de sakta he?? zauf ul aqeeda logoan kee tarah kee batein mat karo…warna her doosra aadmi keh sakta he ke ussed ghayb se falaan falaan hukm mila he ..phir ye muamla sirf musloan tak hee kion mehdood ho?/ her insaan ko aisay twaham se sabiqa parta he!! aisee batoan se koi nabi nahi ban sakta…////***

    WELL WHO GAVE YOU THIS ABSURDEST THOUGHT!!I HAVE,nt SEEN anyhting LIKE IT, WAS IT YOUR FRIEND LUCI INDIMIDATING YOU WHILE YOU WROTE THIS CRAP!CAUSE IT,S DEFINATELY HULLICINOGENIC TALK TO ME.HOW MANY KASHFS HAS LUCI SHOWN YOU.AND THE THE ABOVE IS NOT ARGUMENT ON PROOFS OF PROPHETHOOD OF MIRZA GHULAM AHMED , ITS ON PROOF OF PRESENCE OF GOD AMONGST US AND ABOVE US!! YOU MORON WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU AND WHAT IS THIS ZAUF UL AQEEDA SHIT.. YOU SERIOUSLY DONT SEE WHO IS ZAUF UL AQEEDA HERE! THE ONE WITH WHOM GOD’S TALKING OR THE ONE WHO BELIEVES GOD DOESNOT TALK.. GOD DOES WHAT HE WILLS AND NO WHERE IN QURAN HAS HE WRITTEN OR GIVEN ANY PROMISE THAT HE WILL STOP TALKING AFTER HOLY PROPHET! I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU MAKE FALSE ASSUMPTIONS AND IN A MATTER LIKE THIS BECAUSE ISNT IT “SHIRK” THE GREATEST OF ALL SINS HAVE YOU SERIOUSLY LOST YOUR BOUNDARIES IN THIS BATTLE AGAINST QADIANIS, IS IT JUST QADIANIS YOU ARE IN THIS WORLD TO FIGHT AGAINST BECAUSE MY MAD FRIEND YOU ARE IN SERIOUS SHIT , YOU SHOULD WORRY ABOUT THE HUQOOQ UL IBAAD AS WELL , GOD WILL FORGET HIS RIGHTS BUT WILL NOT FORGET THOSE HUQOOQ UL IBAAD! ON A SECOND THOUGHT ARE YOU REALLY SURE ABOUT QADIANIS CAUSE IF IN CASE THEY ACTUALLY CAME OUT TO BE THE TRUE ONES AND NO JESUS COMES FROM MARS TO DEFEND YOU , THE JEOPARDISED STATE OF YOUR HUQOOQ UL IBAD IS REALLY GONNA TAKE YOU DOWN MA MAD FRND, YOU MAY BE SLOW IN JUDGEMENT AND MAY BE THERE ARE SOME SCARS ON YOUR SKIN AGAINST QADIANIS THAT ARE NOT HEALING BUT JUST BE VERY SURE YOU BITTER GOURD BECAUSE RIGHTS OF YOUR FELLOWS ARE NOT TO BE FORGIVEN ITS A DECREE OF GOD and hence unchangeablE..I HOPR YOU REMMEMBER DECREE OF GOD?? AFETR READING SO much anti ahmadi, anti america and anti literature of all sorts! you might get poisoned by this “anti”" venom inside you by your own self, SELF TOXICATION IT,S CALLED AND SELF POISONING DOEST IT LEAD TO..AND AFTER THAT THERE IS NO WAY BACK! ALL DOORS OF REDEMPTION ARE CLOSED FOR THE MUSHRIQS AND MUNAFIQS.IF YOU REMMEMBER AFTER MAKING THOSE PATHETIC OF ALL TIMES POEMS THAT I HAVE EVER READ SERIOUSLY YOU CHILD WITH A VERY SMALL BRAIN YOU MUST REMMEMBER THE BASICS BEFORE GOING SO FAR.. WHEN YOUR BASICS ARE GONE NO MATTER HOW FAR U R YOU ARE GOING TO FALL, DIE FOREVER AND HAVE THE WORST EVER AFTER! EVEN THE GRAVE IS NOT GONNA SPARE YOU IT,S GONNA PREPARE YOU FOR EVEN WORSE THE HELL WHERE LUCI LIVES.. AND HELL WITH LUCI IS NOT GONNA BE FUN AT ALL EVERY CELL EVERY MOLECULE OF YOUR BODY, AVERY HAIR FOLLICLE EVERY LAYER OF DERMIS AND EPIDERMIS ON YOUR CHILDISH SKIN IS GONNA BURN AND NOT JUST ONCE BUT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND TILL INFINITY AND BEYOND!!YOUR FINGERS AND YOUR TEETH ALL WILL BE IN IGNITION YOUR HEART WILL BE MELTING FLOWING LIKE HOT LAVA! BUT AGAIN IF YOU ARE VERY SURE THAN ITS YOUR FAITH BUT IF YOU HAVE THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT THAN BE ALARMED!!
    MERA KAAM TOU THA APKO BATANA BAAKI APP KI MARZI MERI TARAF JAAIN AAP BHAAR MAY MUJHAY KAYY…

  23. truth power United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @ AKB (A RUNAWAY FROM THE CHARYA WARD WHO IS FAMOUS IN THE HOSPITAL FOR TALKING TO AN IMAGINARY FRIEND OF HIS LUCI AKA LUCIFER)
    SO MR AKB WHNE YOU SAY ///*** abay charya kashf tu aam admi ko bhi hota he, mudoan se jo batein kartein hein aksar pagal ho kar martay hein…bhala murda kia kisi ko basharat de sakta he?? zauf ul aqeeda logoan kee tarah kee batein mat karo…warna her doosra aadmi keh sakta he ke ussed ghayb se falaan falaan hukm mila he ..phir ye muamla sirf musloan tak hee kion mehdood ho?/ her insaan ko aisay twaham se sabiqa parta he!! aisee batoan se koi nabi nahi ban sakta…////***

    WELL WHO GAVE YOU THIS ABSURDEST THOUGHT!!I HAVE,nt SEEN anyhting LIKE IT, WAS IT YOUR FRIEND LUCI INDIMIDATING YOU WHILE YOU WROTE THIS CRAP!CAUSE IT,S DEFINATELY HULLICINOGENIC TALK TO ME.HOW MANY KASHFS HAS LUCI SHOWN YOU.AND THE THE ABOVE IS NOT ARGUMENT ON PROOFS OF PROPHETHOOD OF MIRZA GHULAM AHMED , ITS ON PROOF OF PRESENCE OF GOD AMONGST US AND ABOVE US!! YOU MORON WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU AND WHAT IS THIS ZAUF UL AQEEDA SHIT.. YOU SERIOUSLY DONT SEE WHO IS ZAUF UL AQEEDA HERE! THE ONE WITH WHOM GOD’S TALKING OR THE ONE WHO BELIEVES GOD DOESNOT TALK.. GOD DOES WHAT HE WILLS AND NO WHERE IN QURAN HAS HE WRITTEN OR GIVEN ANY PROMISE THAT HE WILL STOP TALKING AFTER HOLY PROPHET! I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU MAKE FALSE ASSUMPTIONS AND IN A MATTER LIKE THIS BECAUSE ISNT IT “SHIRK” THE GREATEST OF ALL SINS HAVE YOU SERIOUSLY LOST YOUR BOUNDARIES IN THIS BATTLE AGAINST QADIANIS, IS IT JUST QADIANIS YOU ARE IN THIS WORLD TO FIGHT AGAINST BECAUSE MY MAD FRIEND YOU ARE IN SERIOUS SHIT , YOU SHOULD WORRY ABOUT THE HUQOOQ UL IBAAD AS WELL , GOD WILL FORGET HIS RIGHTS BUT WILL NOT FORGET THOSE HUQOOQ UL IBAAD! ON A SECOND THOUGHT ARE YOU REALLY SURE ABOUT QADIANIS CAUSE IF IN CASE THEY ACTUALLY CAME OUT TO BE THE TRUE ONES AND NO JESUS COMES FROM MARS TO DEFEND YOU , THE JEOPARDISED STATE OF YOUR HUQOOQ UL IBAD IS REALLY GONNA TAKE YOU DOWN MA MAD FRND, YOU MAY BE SLOW IN JUDGEMENT AND MAY BE THERE ARE SOME SCARS ON YOUR SKIN AGAINST QADIANIS THAT ARE NOT HEALING BUT JUST BE VERY SURE YOU BITTER GOURD BECAUSE RIGHTS OF YOUR FELLOWS ARE NOT TO BE FORGIVEN ITS A DECREE OF GOD and hence unchangeablE..I HOPR YOU REMMEMBER DECREE OF GOD?? AFETR READING SO much anti ahmadi, anti america and anti literature of all sorts! you might get poisoned by this “anti”" venom inside you by your own self, SELF TOXICATION IT,S CALLED AND SELF POISONING DOEST IT LEAD TO..AND AFTER THAT THERE IS NO WAY BACK! ALL DOORS OF REDEMPTION ARE CLOSED FOR THE MUSHRIQS AND MUNAFIQS.IF YOU REMMEMBER AFTER MAKING THOSE PATHETIC OF ALL TIMES POEMS THAT I HAVE EVER READ SERIOUSLY YOU CHILD WITH A VERY SMALL BRAIN YOU MUST REMMEMBER THE BASICS BEFORE GOING SO FAR.. WHEN YOUR BASICS ARE GONE NO MATTER HOW FAR U R YOU ARE GOING TO FALL, DIE FOREVER AND HAVE THE WORST EVER AFTER! EVEN THE GRAVE IS NOT GONNA SPARE YOU IT,S GONNA PREPARE YOU FOR EVEN WORSE THE HELL WHERE LUCI LIVES.. AND HELL WITH LUCI IS NOT GONNA BE FUN AT ALL EVERY CELL EVERY MOLECULE OF YOUR BODY, AVERY HAIR FOLLICLE EVERY LAYER OF DERMIS AND EPIDERMIS ON YOUR CHILDISH SKIN IS GONNA BURN AND NOT JUST ONCE BUT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND TILL INFINITY AND BEYOND!!YOUR FINGERS AND YOUR TEETH ALL WILL BE IN IGNITION YOUR HEART WILL BE MELTING FLOWING LIKE HOT LAVA! BUT AGAIN IF YOU ARE VERY SURE THAN ITS YOUR FAITH BUT IF YOU HAVE THE SLIGHTEST DOUBT THAN BE ALARMED!!
    MERA KAAM TOU THA APKO BATANA BAAKI APP KI MARZI MERI TARAF JAAIN AAP BHAAR MAY MUJHAY KYAAAAAA BHAEEE..
    HUM SUB KO HIDAYAT DAYNAY WALA KHUDA HI BUS HAMARI ANKHAY KHOLAY (AMEEN) HUM KHUD TOU KUCH BHI SHAY NAI HIAN MITTI SAY BANAY HAIN MITTI MAY MIL JAIN GAYY AIK DUSRAY KAY BAAL NOCH KAR JAAIN YA IZZAT SAY..YEH TOU HUM PAR HI HAI..

  24. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ truth power

    .

    SEND ME A SUMMARY OF THE SATAN’S LITANY YOU FLUNG HEREINABOVE…I DON’T HAVE TIME TO READ ALL THAT BULLSHIT!!
    .

    YES, QADIANI’S ARE MURTEDS AND MUNAFIQS AND UNDOUBTEDLY NON MUSLIMS.

    .
    IF GOD COULD SPEAK WHY WOULD HE TO A PUNJU MULLA SLAVE OF THE BRITISH COLONIALS??
    HINUD’S AND FOLLOWERS OF OTHER FAITHS ALSO SAY GOD SPOKE TO THEIR GODS…
    MIRJA GHULLA WAS A CHARACTERLESS MULLA WHO TRIED TO CONFUSE CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS AND HINDUS EQUALLY TO SERVE HIS VESTED INTEREST WITH HIS BRITISH MASTES. ALL THIS IS ON RECORD….

    .

    YOU BETTER DELIVER YOUR SERMON TO YOUR MIRJAI DEVIATES AS I KNOW WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO DO. IF YOU ARE BRAVE ENOUGH TO SAY ALL THIS COME TO THE REGAL CHOWK LAHORE AND MEET ME AT THE DRY FRUIT SHOP AT THE CORNER OF BEADON RD FACING REGAL CINEMA… THERE I WILL LISTEN TO YOUR SERMON WITH JOY AND ALSO GIVE YOU A NICE TREAT!!

    .

    MIRZAI DOGS ARE RABID CLERICAL MINDED BEASTS WHO ARE NOT ONLY NON MUSLIMS BUT ALSO ENEMIES OF PAKISTAN AND ALL GREAT RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD!!
    MUSLIMS , HINDUS , CHRISTIANS OF THE WORLD! WAKE UP, JOIN HANDS TO CRUSH THIS SCOURGE OF A HANDFUL OF RELIGIOUS DEVIATES WHO ASSERT THEMSELVES ABOVE ALL AND FANTASIZE TO CHANGE THE WORLD!! NAY, THEIR AMBITIONS ARE SINFUL AND DASTARDLY AND THEY WILL SOON MEET THEIR END THE SAME WAY THEIR FALSE FROFET MIRJA GHULLA OF QADIAN SUFFERED DUE TO HIS HERETIC BELIEFS ….MAY THIS WORLD SERVE THEM AS A HOSPICE OF LATRINE AND THE HEREAFTER AS HELL!!
    FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO KNOW THE REAL FACE OF THE UGLY MIRJAI CULT MAY GO TO
    http://www.irshar.com or to my previous posts on this thread ,,,,

    .
    badbakht hein
    razeel hein
    kaazib o zindeeq
    ye murjai ye mirzai
    in per khuda kee maar ho!!

  25. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ truth power

    .
    BUCHA JAMHOORA
    JEE AAMIL
    YE truth power KON HE??
    SOOWAR!
    YE KAHAN SE AAYA HE?
    GUTTER MEIN SE NIKLA HE
    SHABAASH!!
    AB BATAO IS KA MAZHAB KIA HE?
    JHOOT AUR MUNAFIQAT
    VERY GOOD,!
    IS KE PUNJABI MULLA USTAD KA NAAM BATAO??
    MIRZA GHULLA OF QADIAN
    SHABAASH!
    MIRJA KON THA??
    MIRZA GHULA OF QADIAN ANGRAIZ KA AGENT THA, KACHERY MEIN MUNSHI THA, KUTTER MULLAEEE SHAITANEE KHAYALAT KA EMBODIMENT THA!!
    ACHAA? AUR BATAO
    MIRJA KA KAAM CHRISTIAN PADRIYOAN SE LARNA JAGHARNA THA ,,,
    AUR?

    WOH UN SE MANAZARY KAR KE MEHZOOZ HOTA THA, AUR ZAHIR YE KARTA THA KE WOH ISLAM KE HIMAYAT KAR REHA HO LAIKIN….
    LAIKIN KIA??
    DARHAQEEQAT WOH UNKE KHUDA KE BETAY KEE TAZLEEL KAR REHA THA
    PHIR TU EESAI PADRI BAHUT GHUSSAY MEIN AA GAYE HON GAY

    JEE HAAN!
    SAATH HEE SAATH MIRJA NE HINDU PANDATON SE BHI MATHA LAGANA SHUROO KAR DIYA AUR KEHTA THA WOH KRISHNA HE,
    ACCHHA??
    HAAN US KA DIMAAGH KHRAB HO GAYA THA
    RAAT DIN USSE BILLI KEE TARAH KHWAAB MEIN CHEECHARY NAZAR AATAY THEY

    VER BAD…BACHA JAMHOORA AAGAY BATAO KIA HUA

    USTAD, PHIR MIRJA MARDOOD NE MUSLAMANOAN SE PANGA LARANA SHURU KAR DIYA

    AISA KAISEY HO SAKTA HE BACHA JAMHOORA …,MIRJA TU SUNNI MUSLA THA??

    JEE USTAB..THA LAIKIN WOH NABI BAN NAY KE KHWAB DEKTA THA .,,,ANGRAIZOAN KEE KHAYRAAT PER PALTA THA…US KO ANGRAIZON HEEE KE PUSHT PANAHI HASIL EHEE
    UNHOAN NE MIRJA SE KAHA KE HINDU MUSALMANON ME PHOOT PARWAO…AUR PROPAGANDA KRO KE MUSLIMS JIHAD NA KAREIN TAAKE HINDUSTAN KEE JANG E AAZADI KO ROKA JA SAKAY

    TAUBA TAUBA..BACHA MUJHE YAQEEN NAHI AATA KE MIRJA ITNE GHATYA AUR ZALEEL AADMI THA

    JEE USTAD….WOH PUCCA JHOOTA MUNAFIQ AUR GHADDAR THA…ANGRAZI SARKAR KA GHULAM AUR PURWARDA THA

    BAQI AINDA…………………….TAHAJJUD KA WAQT HO GAYA HE PHIR FAJR BHI TU PARHNI HE….HAMARE HINDU BHAYOAN NE BHI SUBAH UTH KAR PARNAAM KARNA HO GA..NA?

  26. Kashif United States Safari Mac OS says:

    I wish to make an announcement here. We Ahmadi Muslims are “Muslims” by faith, “Muslims” by choice and “Muslims” by definition. What any earthly intelligence may think of us, is of absolutely no consequence. And putting it extremely politely, what a delinquent (eg. AKB) thinks of us, is even more meaningless. Whatever we Ahmadi Muslims believe, is to please God, not mortals. We have been taught by the founder of the Ahmadiyya Community not to pay back in the same coin and to repel evil by means of goodness. Anyone can think of us as he likes. We shall, however, God-willing cling tenaciously to our values forever. Insha Allah.

  27. Syed United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @truth power (November 29, 2912 at 1:24 am)
    //…AKB…YOU SERIOUSLY DONT SEE WHO IS ZAUF UL AQEEDA HERE! THE ONE WITH WHOM GOD’S TALKING OR THE ONE WHO BELIEVES GOD DOESNOT TALK.. GOD DOES WHAT HE WILLS AND NO WHERE IN QURAN HAS HE WRITTEN OR GIVEN ANY PROMISE THAT HE WILL STOP TALKING AFTER HOLY PROPHET…//

    Dear “truth power” :
    May I respectfully ask you not to engage indecent individuals such as “AKB”. Explaining anything to someone so devoid of elementary manners, is an exercise in futility. “AKB”, as you may have noticed by now, is beyond being “zaeeful aqeeda”. He’s “zaeeful dimagh”. You seem to be a very decent, educated and intelligent person. May I suggest that you simply ignore this exceptionally zaeeful dimagh AKB.

  28. truth power United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    i respect your advice and will definately follow it in future…

  29. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ kashif

    teri saadagi pe kon na mar jaye ay khuda
    karte hein qatl haath me muslay ke le ke woh!!
    .
    you said::” November 29, 2012 at 7:29 am

    I wish to make an announcement here. We Ahmadi Muslims are “Muslims” by faith, “Muslims” by choice and “Muslims” by definition.”"
    In that case ask any prostitute and she will at once say she’s the most pious lady!! Ask a pimp and he will pronounce (not announce , that is wrong!!) that he is a gentleman!
    From above it can be deduced that whatever you ”announced’ means in reverse. You Mirzai’s are murteds, zindeeqs and munafiqs as declared in the holy Quran. You must admit you are wrong and misled. All your arguments are weak and irrational. Would be better for you to declare your separate and independent identity like the Sikhs and you will find me your friend!
    .
    Since you Mirjai’s talk too much about democracy, liberalism and secularism etc etc it becomes incumbent on you to accept the unanimous decision of the democratically chosen majority of the Parliament; the decision of the Supreme court and the Constitution of Pakistan. If you deny that you’ll be denying your father…
    .
    Jinnah must not be aware of you cheats and hypocrites at that time as Iqbal

  30. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @Syed

    Q.
    I am a Muslim but I don’t believe in your Mirja Ghulla of Qadian as anything more than a crook and a hypocrite. The hindus don’t believe him as an avatar of Krishna; Christians don’t believe him as another Jesus….or his duplicate. Jinnah, who was an Athna Ashari Khoja did not believe in Mirja Ghulla of Qadian….No Muslim sect believes in you or Mirja Ghulla of Qadian; even your Lahori group doesn’t believe in Mirja Ghulla Of Qadian as what you believe him to be a frofet……….what does all this prove??
    .
    Evidently it proves that Mirjai’s are deviates, heretics and hypocrites, thus out of the sphere of Islam.

  31. sta Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    @A Pakistani (November 28, 2012 at 2:31 am)
    //…AKB…I’ve been following your comments. I disagree with some of the people here, who think you need psychiatric help. I think you need a Brain Transplant. In fact, if you had your brain replaced with a donkey’s brain, I think your IQ should go up substantially…//

    Oh, but have you ever thought about the poor donkey who will be receiving AKB’s brain in exchange?

  32. Kashif United States Safari iPhone says:

    @AKB
    1. Guess what. I was almost tempted to take Syed’s advice, he had given to “truth power”. In fact, even the Quran’s advice “When the believers talk to an ignorant person, they confine their conversation only to salutations of Peace” kept haunting me with respect to continuing my dialogue with you. But then, I said to myself – let me help this mentally handicapped delinquent person.
    2. A minor correction. It’s “Iss saadgi pe kon na mar jai aye Khuda”.
    3. Your analogy of the “prostitute” and the “pimp” doesn’t seem to be working here. Every single prophet, messenger, saint, guru and rishi and holy man claimed that he was a “believer”. Please enlighten me – who, in the cases of all these pious men, was the “prostitute” and who the “pimp”? Since Adam till this day, each and every single prophet did claim that he was a believer and other believers testified that he indeed was. What’s the rush? God will judge all of us on the Day of Reckoning.
    3. We Ahmadi Muslims are indeed liberal and very much humanists too, but we believe that it is, by no means, the job of parliaments and judiciaries to decide who a believer is or who is not. This job is for God.

  33. Milestogo United States Safari iPhone says:

    We can’t leave everything to Allah.

  34. Kaalchakra United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    MTG

    If you find AKB’s language colorful, you must read what Mr Ahmad said about others. But, in Mr Ahmad’s defense, it must be noted that he meant ‘rebellious generation’ by whatever he said.

    (To be equally fair to AKB, we must wait a few years before we ask AKB what he meant by what he wrote. That is the only way to understand the true meaning of words.)

  35. Satyamukhi United States Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Ahmadis keep insulting Indic holy Rishis , Gurus and others by mentioning them along side their so called Prophetic figures. Any one using 1/10 of brain understand that Knowers cannot be compared with so called belivers as beliefs are blind in nature while Knowledge shines bright and release one from all kind of fears.
    MTG Paaji,
    AKB is an honest Abdul , a rare Quality in his society. Ahmadis are simply Doglas and Ahmaks always indulging in deception . They take pride in being Jinnah’s shoe shiner yet simultaneously carrier have taken Indians as Awaliya to protect them from Muslim wrath. They still worship the man whose glory depend on their very own demise.

  36. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ kc

    OK, giving the Mirzai deviates yet another benefit of doubt I ask the mirjzai’s to quote the exact words/lines so we can look up for exact translation of the word with reference to the context!!

  37. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ kashif

    I reject your clumsy excuses and explanation. we are not discussing other religions or faiths and as Muslim I don’t haven anything wrong to say about them,,,well, I am forbidden to talk ill of any one else. But since you are traitors and heretics stealing stuff from Muslims, the Hindus and the Christians alike and putting up a face of so called muslims which you are not,,,I have to respond to your apostasy…

    .

    Look at your history…Mirja ghulla of Qadian was a staunch but mischievous Molvi….and all your so called khalifa’s too continue to be the same. You are pucca fundamentals but without numbers or power hence you keep on poking others under the garb of ”liberalism”….I can swear by my sweater which I am wearing now that given some power the Mirjai’s would be worst than the Wahabi’s or Zionists!!

    .
    Mirjai;s are not liberal…one example is they don;t allow others to enter their places of worship…
    I can enter a mandir or a mosque but not the den of Mirjai worship!

    .
    You call all others except Mirzai’s as kafirs…Is this the liberalism you brag about??
    .
    You don’t intermarry with others, not even with muslims….is this the liberalism you brag about??

    .
    yoiu cuss Hindu dieties and demean the status of Jesus….is this you are taught by your molvi Mirja Ghulla and his fraudster khalifa’s to do to ”change the world”??
    YOU TALK TOTAL / aLL BULLSHIT…YOU ARE NOT ONLY NON MUSLIMS BUT SCREWERS OF ALL FAITHS INCLUDING HINDUISM AND CHRISTIANITY. IT IS BECAUSE OF THIS OTHERS HATE YOU!!

  38. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ kashif

    don’t make a mockery of yerself.. It’s not only Muslims who are on this thread but gentlemen and even ladies from all sorts of religions and faiths. If you think the quranic verse you quoted is correct then it obviously holds true for for because it’s you the handful of ignorant and quarelsome folks who don’t listen to others; who deny everything in the Quran; who refute democracy, constitution and parliament. It’s you who think yerself above ALL…muslims, hindus, christians, sikhs, parsi’s etc alike. Your liberalism is proved by the fact of your secretive lifestyles and abominable religious practices repugnat to Islam and offensive to other faiths. Grow up, chappy, you still have to go a long way to prove your innocence!

  39. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    @satyamukhi in response to this statement of yours that

    ****///Ahmadis keep insulting Indic holy Rishis , Gurus and others by mentioning them along side their so called Prophetic figures/////****

    I WOULD SAY what an orthodox hindu mentality you have, i dont think this debate is meant for “BAAL Thakray” disciples, actually no debate is meant for fanatics LIKE YOU! your eyes and mind has been closed down and completely shut of by God, you are destined to remain astray! cant you see what an honour your prophet Hazrat Krishan”s , and Hazrat Ram Chandar been given by us ahmadis, how wonderfully your religion has been appraised by ahmadis!has anyone ever iven hinduism so much honour, has anyone ever glorified your Prophets in this beautiful manner except the ones of your own kind!no one has ever made this miraculous effort and no one ever could except someone of IMAM MAHDI”s stature!!if your mind had been enlightened you could see clearly how beautifully Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (a.s) has resolved all the issues! how he has alleviated the differences among all religions how has tried to bridge the gap, so that humanity can come together and see each other with a different perspective! what sort of knowledge has made you so sure that you are not even in favour of believing has STATUE OF Ganesha, or seeta in your house started talking with you!are in conversation with them right now?
    Worshipping silent statues makes sense to you, but alleviation of interfaith disciples and One GOD of all doesnot, what a “one of a kind” knower you are **B.R.A.V.O**

  40. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    A CORRECTION HERE “Worshipping silent statues makes sense to you, but alleviation of interfaith diFFERENCES and “One GOD of all” doesnot!! what a “one of a kind” knower you are **B.R.A.V.O**

  41. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @KASHIF

    HERE IS MORE FOR YOU AND YOUR LIKES…ENJOY!!
    .

    IS SAADAGI PE KON NA MAR JAYE AY KHUDA
    MIRJA NE KAR DIYA FITNA NAYA KHARA
    NA MUSLIMOAN KA DOST NA HINDU KA SATHI HE
    JESUS KEE WABR JIS NE DEE KASHMIR ME BANA
    INSANIYAT SE AAREE HE JIS KA FALSAFA
    KAZIB NA HO GA KOI MIRJA MULLAH SE BARA

  42. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    CORRECTION::
    @KASHIF

    HERE IS MORE FOR YOU AND YOUR LIKES…ENJOY!!
    .

    IS SAADAGI PE KON NA MAR JAYE AY KHUDA
    MIRJA NE KAR DIYA HE IK FITNA NAYA KHARA
    NA MUSLIMOAN KA DOST NA HINDU KA SATHI HE
    JESUS KEE QABR JIS NE DEE KASHMIR ME BANA
    INSANIYAT SE AAREE HE MIRJA KA FALSAFA
    KAZIB NA HO GA KOI MIRJA MULLAH SE BARA

  43. ENLIGHTENED BHAEE Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    AIKKK PAGAL KUTTA BEADON ROAD LAHORE, KI GALIYUN PAY AWARA GHOOM RAHA HAI, USAY COMPUTER USE KARNA SHAITAN NAY SIKAH DIYA HAI AB MUSIBAT WOH APNI GANDI BEMARIYAN INTERNET KAY THROUGH PURI DUNYA MAY PHELA RAHA HAI, US KUTAY KO KOI TAMEEZ NAI HAI, AUR ISAY SHAERI SAY BUHAT LAGAO, BUHAT HI AALA NASAL KA KUTTA HAI YEH AKB , PAR BECHARA KISMAT KA MAARA ,MALIKUN NAY ISAY PAGALPANAY KI WAJA SAY GHAR SAY NIKAL DIYA HAI AB ISAY SAMAJH NAI AATI KIS PAR GHUSA NIKALAY, PAGAL HAI NAH BECHARA, KUCH ARSAY MAY APPNI BEMARI SAY KHUDI MAR JAYAY GA…AHBAAB E AHMADIYYA JAMMAT SYA DARKHUWAST HAI KAY IS PAY TARAS KHANAY KI KOI ZAROORAT NAHI, NAH HI IS SAY MUNH LAGNAY KI AUR IS KAY AAGAY HADIYAN PHAINKANAY KI BHI KOI ZAROORAT NAI KYUN KI HADI DAIKH KAR IS KAY PAGAL PANAY MAY AUR IZAFA HOJATA HAI!IS KAY ZEHAR SAY BACHAIN!PAGAL KUTTAY KA MUQADAR MAUT HAI AUR USAY APNI MAUT AAP MAARNAIN DAY, IS SAY CHOR DAIN IS KAY HAAL PAY…KOI ZAROORAT NAHI IS PAR REHAM KHANAY KI!!NAH HI MUNH LAGANAY KI..

  44. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ ENLIGHTENED BHAEE

    .

    OAY MIRJAEEE….EEEEE…..URDU TU THEEK TARAH SE LIKHI SEEKH LO.
    AGAR MEIN NE APNI URDU SHUROO KAR DEE TU TU BUDDHAY DARYA ME DOOB KAR MAR JAYE GA!!
    .

    JAB LAJAWAAB HOTAY MEIN MIRZAEEEEEEEEEEEE
    KARNAY LAGTAY HEIN HARZA SARAEEEEEEEEEE
    AUROAN KO TU KEHTAY HEIN YE PAGAL KUTTA
    KHUDD SOOWAR SE BHI BARH KAR HEIN MIRJAEEE!!
    .
    PUTTER , SAADAY NAAL PUNGA NA LAY….JINNAY SAADAY NAAL MATHA LAYA OHDI BABAY VAYN HEE PAYE GEE!!

  45. Milestogo United States Safari iPhone says:

    I know Akb is a good dog but without a genuine sheikh – he is incomplete – he is being wasted in pakistan

    That’s the reason I always encourage him to learn Arabic and apply for mecca’s permanent visa.

    Btw I don’t read what Akb writes – there is no need. He can be engaged regardless. He is good breed.

  46. Milestogo United States Safari iPhone says:

    Satya

    Ahmedis’s have found a way to keep the poison and not drink it. That’s how it is for most other religions. That is good enough.

  47. Kaalchakra United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    MTG

    IMHO, all those who detest Islam and wish to break it up by supporting Ahmadism are on the right track (for their own purposes), so long as they – members of the rebellious generation, all of them – fully grasp that Ahmadism is not ‘most religions’. It is not Christianity, or Hinduism, or anybody else’s friend or collaborator. One has to be careful with it. Ahmadi Allah can be an extremely dangerous person. :)

  48. sta Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    AKB :
    You need treatment boy. Please visit the psychiatrist before there’s nothing left to treat.

  49. gautam United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    guatam,
    zoinists are dividing world on various lines.brhmnsts are dividing india.kearal is called by vedas.never ruled by muslims.when vivekanand visted the place called it land of lunatics.

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