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Are Ahmadis Non-Muslims?

By Yasser Latif Hamdani

(Written exclusively for PakTeaHouse. Please give credit when crossposting)

The poison of ignorance and extremism that Bhutto and General Zia jointly fathered during their dictatorial regimes has fully indoctrinated even those who otherwise describe themselves as educated.

This week the Large Hadron Collider at the CERN inched closer to the discovery of Higgs Boson or the God Particle as it were. In this extraordinary story of human achievement,  Dr. Abdus Salam is a key player who put Pakistan on the map of theoretical physics. In his homeland though, a group of self-styled champions of Islam have started a posthumous campaign of scurrilous slander claiming that Dr. Salam was giving out nuclear secrets. Forget that even a confirmed bigot like General Zia  held a ceremony in our only nobel prize winner’s honour or that no one ever accused Dr. Salam of any such thing; in Pakistan to be a hero you have to actually transfer technology to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

Now consider the case of 11 year old Sitara Akbar. Every Pakistani and his mother in law are citing her as a crowning national achievement, blissfully oblivious of the fact that she is an Ahmadi. To them her religion is suddenly unimportant or irrelevant or is it? How many Sitara Akbars have been expelled from our schools for being Ahmadi? How many productive citizens of this republic have been killed and maimed for believing differently?

Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s National Assembly imagined itself the Islamic equivalent of the Council of Nicea. Just as that ancient bastion of Christian orthodoxy excommunicated unitarian Christians for not believing in the trinity of the father, son and the holy ghost, the National Assembly saw it fit to – primarily at the instigation of the Prime Minister and his law minister- declare an entire sect non-Muslim. Just like the post hoc elevation of the principle of trinity at Nicea, Pakistan’s National Assembly located Islam in the principle of the finality of Prophethood.

This act of our sovereign legislature stood in sharp contrast to the view of this nation’s founding father. On 5 May, 1944, in response to demands of the orthodox vis a vis Ahmadis, Jinnah made it absolutely clear that anyone who professes to be a Muslim is a Muslim and welcome in the Muslim League and that those who were raising the issue were trying to divide the Muslims. Here I am forced to say that I am inclined to accept Jinnah’s view and reject the collective wisdom of our sovereign legislature. There are several reasons which may be cited in this regard:

  1. First and foremost Pakistan is bound by the United Nations’ charter. Therefore Pakistan is bound to ensure freedom of religion for all its citizens and freedom of religion means freedom of religion according to the definition of the subject of the said freedom.
  2. Identity is subjective not objective. The state of Pakistan or any other state cannot tell an Ahmadi that he is not a Muslim because it is intrinsic to the faith of an Ahmadi.  This is an inviolable, inalienable right as part of right to life which every state in the world is bound to protect. If Ahmadis say they are Muslims they ought to be accepted as such.
  3. Pakistan is a signatory to the ICCPR and without reservations since June 2011. Therefore every piece of legislation that discriminates against Ahmadis or forces a label upon them is ultra vires the ICCPR.
  4. The Islamic argument: According to the Holy Prophet (PBUH) anyone who utters the Kalima Shahadah is a Muslim. None of the Kalimas, including the Primary Kalima Shahadah contains any reference to the principle of the finality of Prophethood as understood by the Muslim majority today.
  5. Finally because by conduct and promise, Pakistani state is estopped from claiming otherwise. In 1947, Pakistan laid claim to Qadian as a Muslim holy place, a counter-blast to Sikh claims on Nankana Sahib and Hassan Abdal.  Similarly in 1946 elections which is the basic referendum on the question of Pakistan, Ahmadi votes were instrumental in getting Muslims Pakistan. These are undeniable facts of history.

 

Therefore- fully aware of the stigma attached to this statement- I concur with Quaid-e-Azam Mahomed Ali Jinnah, thefounding father of Pakistan that Ahmadis are Muslims, if they say they are Muslims and no one, not even the sovereign legislature, has the right to say otherwise.

 




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3,231 Responses to "Are Ahmadis Non-Muslims?"

  1. kaalchakra United States Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Well, AKB, one can reasonably argue that the last child is the one that lasts, and once a child finishes lasting, then another last child begins to last, and so on.

    This argument can be asserted to be as good as any other, and can be suitably buttressed with necessary signs and proofs from Allah. My only problem would be we would not be able to tell such an Allah from any old human fraud, which would be a problem if we decide to worship such an Allah.

    That could be the reason why probably Iqbal saw clearly what seems to me to be the case with Ahmadis as well – the Ahmadi Allah is simply not the Allah of Islam, nor the Quran of Ahmadis, the Holy Quran that brings the message of Islam.

    Ahmadis do have a right to insist that their Quran is the true one and that their Allah alone is to be worshiped, not the Allah of Muslims; and Muslims, to reject those claims.

    These perspectives are so different that if one is true then the other is indeed dead and untrue. Non-Muslims who support Ahmadis grasp that. There is really no way around that problem.

  2. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ KALA CHAKRA
    i guess you have interpreted ‘last’ by Hindu standards. Muslims do not believe in ‘awagon’ or the reincarnation theory. I don’t understand how
    a new profet could spring up like a pheonix from ashes?? If that was possible therre would have been a million frofets today!!
    /
    as you can see the Mirjzai interpretation of the word last or final is solely based on assumptions ….such as dreams , visions , Norstradamical professies ets…..as if Mirja was a fortune teller. I think Hindu are better at astrology than Muslims….but none of them claims to be a prophet. Then you can also notice that the Mirjai’s played with words and wasteful arguments with all …hindus , muslim and christians. The problem with them is that they are imposters and imitators of Islamic tenets and practices which is not acceptable to Muslims of any or all sects together. Moreover they have been officially adjudged by the state as non muslims warned to refrain from
    mimicking Muslim tenets or practices. Corruption of any sorts is not acceptable and this is why the Mirjai;s remain pariahs. You must have also noticed that the Mirjai cult is always ready to carp at you if you try to speak up….and most of the guys here are Mirjai’s ..
    onto an organized campaign against Muslims and Pakistan passing off as Muslims . It is not acceptable to call all Muslims other than Mirjai’s as kafirs…that is atrocious and look at the language Mirja ghulla used
    against others calling them ‘children of prostitutes”!!
    At least a sane and sensible person would never utter such filthy words
    ……..those are vile and criminally provocotive and attract rebuttal in the same tone!!

  3. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ kc

    this ”Well, AKB, one can reasonably argue that the last child is the one that lasts, and once a child finishes lasting, then another last child begins to last, and so on.

    This argument can be asserted to be as good as any other, and can be suitably buttressed with necessary signs and proofs from Allah. My only problem would be we would not be able to tell such an Allah from any old human fraud, which would be a problem if we decide to worship such an Allah.”
    is interesting but where the heck is mirja ghulla lasting now??
    there is no living prophet so is Mirjaism not dead?? Now don’t mention khalifa’s they are toadies and mullah’s worse than salafi’s

    .
    Being a theist and atheist is another discussion…and beside the issue..if someone does not believe in Allah ie God it is his
    prerogative ….but corrupting the Quran and imitating it to establish one’s own false status is blasphemous

  4. kaalchakra United States Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    “hindu standards”

    That is exactly what happened. Mr Ahmad of Quadian began on the right foot. He started off his rhetorical career fighting Christians and Hindus. Unfortunately, owing probably to his highly emotional constitution, he so personalized his little skirmishes with individuals that in order to win his personal battles, he overstepped sacred boundaries and forgot the distinction between half-baked Hindu and Christian doctrines and Islam.

    Amazingly, from his experiences, Mr Ahmad seems to have became totally convinced that Islam was not a religion that a modern man or woman could follow. So profoundly unsettled was his state of mind that he really thought he was ‘saving’ Islam by abandoning it in favor of Hindu and Christian thought which he said were real Islam.

    Of my many years of interactions with Ahmadi friends, one particular episode stands out – wherein a rather cerebral Ahmadi gentleman, having exhausted all other arguments, retorted that he was going to ‘save Islam’ at all costs.

    Even at that time, that claim sounded very odd to me. It made no sense for an ordinary mortal to actually take on the clear role of Allah. Until, of course, much later when one learned quite a bit more and realized that the gentleman’s peculiar Allah and religion were very different from those of Islam.

  5. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @KC
    Enough of this Mirjai bak bak….wonder if quantum theory could help out the Mirjai’s to solve their problem?
    .
    you might be interested to read this interesting story..enjoy

    Quantum physicists see reality as something that is more fluid than solid and has infinite potential. The word “potential” is very important in quantum physics. Quantum physicists understand that the deeper they study the quantum realm, the laws of nature become more impact, and nature itself becomes more intelligent and aware. They called this fundamental quantum reality as the Unified Field. According to quantum physics, the Unified Field is self aware and highly intelligent. This Unified Field is the “mind of Creation (God).”
    http://energyfanatics.com/2012/12/04/quantum-reality-exploring-universe-beyond-material-realm/

  6. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ KC

    here is another one that may be of interest to you as it reflects on Hinduism…Karma and Reincarnation, etching.
    .
    ”Coming Back relies on the Bhagavad Gita, a text written 2,200-2,500 years ago, for scientific proof of reincarnation. As a yoga instructor, I’ve turned to the Gita for metaphorical inspiration during various life challenges. Yet I’d never treat a scrape on my leg by sticking leeches on it, or by poking a hole in my skull. Why exactly we think allegorical tales penned millennia ago can be used today as scientific evidence is nonsensical, especially one based on an idea—karma—that was utilized by the wealthy Brahmanic class to oppress lower castes in claiming it was their birthright to be poor and uneducated.”

    http://bigthink.com/21st-century-spirituality/the-science-of-reincarnation?utm_source=Big+Think+Weekly+Newsletter+Subscribers&utm_campaign=50c723c0e8-_Here_s_What_s_New_at_Big_Think12_5_2012&utm_medium=email

  7. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    MIRZAI’S ARE NON MUSLIMS AND ENEMIES OF PAKISTAN!
    ;
    Jinnah warns minorities….lays condition of allegiance and loyalty to Pakistan and the majority!! but the Mirjai lot flouts the will of the majority and the writ of the government, hence by no figment of thought they could be termed otherwise than ENEMIES OF PAKISTAN AND DEVIATE NON MUSLIMS!
    .
    ”Minority communities must not by mere words but by actions show this that they are truly loyal and they must make majority community feel that they are true citizens of Pakistan. ”

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    Reply to the Address presented by a Deputation of the members of the Quetta Parsi Community on 13th June, 1948

  8. Khan United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @AKB

    One last advice for you:

    Stop lying. The truth shall set you free.

  9. Dark Knight Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    @AKB (December 5, 2012 at 8:26 pm)
    //…..funny!!…..//

    After exhibitionistically exposing your idiocy to everybody at PTH, you exclaim, “funny”. Funny indeed. This is one point, I have to agree with you on.

  10. sta Pakistan Chrome for iOS iPad says:

    @AKB

    Your psychiatrist wanted to know about your whereabouts.

  11. Syed United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @AKB

    The one skill with which you are generously blessed, is the skill of lying shamelessly.

  12. akb Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ ALL MIRZAI WOLVES HERE

    TELL ME WHERE HAVE I LIED?? YOU MIRZAI;S HAVE LOST THE DEBATE!!

    /
    ANY HINDU. CHRISTIAN OR SIKH HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE THE UMPIRE????

  13. akb Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    MIRZAI’S ARE WARNED TO FOLLOW THE ADMONITION OF JINNAH AND STOP DEFYING PAKISTAN , ITS LAWS AND CONSTITUTION FOR THEIR OWN GOOD!! IF THEY DON’T PAKISTAN SHALL NOT HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTS/

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    JINNAH’S WARNING TO MIRZAI’S AND MINORITIES !!!!!
    MIRZAI’S ARE NON MUSLIMS AND ENEMIES OF PAKISTAN!
    ;
    Jinnah warns minorities….lays condition of allegiance and loyalty to Pakistan and the majority!! but the Mirjai lot flouts the will of the majority and the writ of the government, hence by no figment of thought they could be termed otherwise than ENEMIES OF PAKISTAN AND DEVIATE NON MUSLIMS!
    .
    ”Minority communities must not by mere words but by actions show this that they are truly loyal and they must make majority community feel that they are true citizens of Pakistan. ”

    .

    Reply to the Address presented by a Deputation of the members of the Quetta Parsi Community on 13th June, 1948

  14. a,k.b Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    Jinnah warns minorities….lays condition of allegiance and loyalty to Pakistan and the majority!!
    .
    ”Minority communities must not by mere words but by actions show this that they are truly loyal and they must make majority community feel that they are true citizens of Pakistan. ”

    ”I reiterate that you, like any other minorities, will be treated as equal citizens with all your rights and obligations so long as you are loyal to Pakistan. I am glad and it is very refreshing that you have not gone on with the same old rut and the hackneyed phrases which are echoed in various quarters about the grievances and requests of minorities, but I must tell you that these assurances have been given and they are going to be implemented. Minority communities must not by mere words but by actions show this that they are truly loyal and they must make majority community feel that they are true citizens of Pakistan. Then you will help me and you will facilitate my task in carrying out the policy which we have laid down. You know you must dispel suspicion and distrust. It is now up to minorities to show by actions and deeds that they are true Pakistanis and dispel suspicion and distrust that has been created by deplorable and disgraceful events that have taken place.”
    CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION OF BALUCHISTAN
    Reply to the Address presented by a Deputation of the members of the Quetta Parsi Community on 13th June, 1948

  15. Kashif United States Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @AKB

    A good anxiolytic, a 2000V shock to your empty reverberating cranium and a good laxative is what you need.

  16. a,k.b Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ kashif mirzai deviate

    come to the point and don’t whine….nobody will like your deranged pukings!!
    You are clearly doomed,,Jinnah said it not me!!

  17. a,k.b Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ kashif deviate mirzai

    you are lost!! you need some strong medicine or surgery to level up your infested brain!!
    JINNAH SAID THIS AND YOU WANTED TO FOLLOW JINNAH,,,,NOW FOLLOW HIM!!

    .
    Jinnah warns minorities….lays condition of allegiance and loyalty to Pakistan and the majority!!
    .
    ”Minority communities must not by mere words but by actions show this that they are truly loyal and they must make majority community feel that they are true citizens of Pakistan. ”

    ”I reiterate that you, like any other minorities, will be treated as equal citizens with all your rights and obligations so long as you are loyal to Pakistan. I am glad and it is very refreshing that you have not gone on with the same old rut and the hackneyed phrases which are echoed in various quarters about the grievances and requests of minorities, but I must tell you that these assurances have been given and they are going to be implemented. Minority communities must not by mere words but by actions show this that they are truly loyal and they must make majority community feel that they are true citizens of Pakistan. Then you will help me and you will facilitate my task in carrying out the policy which we have laid down. You know you must dispel suspicion and distrust. It is now up to minorities to show by actions and deeds that they are true Pakistanis and dispel suspicion and distrust that has been created by deplorable and disgraceful events that have taken place.”
    CONSTITUTIONAL POSITION OF BALUCHISTAN
    Reply to the Address presented by a Deputation of the members of the Quetta Parsi Community on 13th June, 1948

  18. Bin Ismail Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    AKB:
    It seems you’re having serious and unending problems with comprehending the otherwise simple fact, that “Right” and “Wrong”, with respect to “Religious Belief” can not be determined by “a vote of majority” caste by mortals. The principle of the “vote of majority” begins and ends with worldly, temporal, mundane and material issues. Similarly, determining the real “Religious Identity” of someone or a group of citizens, can not be done by the majority, be it the Parliament, Shura or anything else. For instance, if the Parliament of a certain country decides, by a majority vote that Catholics are not Christians, such a decision would be fallacious. Another example: if the Parlaiment of Pakistan decided, however remotely possible this may actually be, and of course hypothetically speaking, that Sunnis were “not Muslims for the purposes of constitution and law”, that would not render the Sunni Muslims of Pakistan “non-Muslims”. It is for the Sunni Muslim citizen to choose and declare his own “religious identity”, not the Parliament. You might also wish to recall that all holy and truly pious men of God were declared “infidels” and “religiously wrong” in their own respective times, by the “majorty” of their respective people. The most classic example would perhaps, be of Muhammad the Messenger of God. He was termed an “infidel”, “misled”, “ill-faithed”, “rebellious against the religion of the forefathers”, “bewitched”, “insane”, “deluded” and what not. All these titles were conferred upon him, not by a minority, but by the “majority of the people’s representatives”. Now, let me take you into the past. Let’s go about two milleniums back in time. Jesus was persecuted and sentenced to death for the “religious identity” he claimed for himself – not by a minority – but by the majority of the people’s representatives. In fact, in Jesus’ case, the majority of the peoples representatives, the political authorities and the clergy, all were unanimous on Jesus’ guilt. Therefore, to put it plainly, in matters relating to determining someone’s religious identity and faith, it is not the job of “the majority” to decide. These are not political matters. These are spiritual matters. Indeed, if there does happen to be a single authority with the right and competence to decide on such matters, it is God.

  19. Dark Knight Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    @akb
    .
    Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah said :
    .
    “…Religion should not be allowed to come into Politics…Religion is merely a matter between man and God…”.
    [Address to the Central Legislative Assembly, 7 February 1935]

  20. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    akb, i have closed the case , your whinig and whimpering is natural, but case the is closed (HARVEY Specter style) you are proven guilty for “perjury”. the judiciary of pakistan may be blind , but ALLAH’s supreme court is not, HE is seeing everything.and i think what he has seen is enough to declare verdict.and you a.k.b lunatic should have thought that before committing all the crimes you have committed here.now is the time to move forward for you and discover the truth for clearing yourself off this case.you have said enough and nothing u say has been substantive enough to support your case.
    FORGET ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE, EXPAND YOUR HORIZONS, AND STOP SEEING EVERYTHING IN OVERSIMPLIFIED SHADES OF BLACK AND WHITE , THERE IS MORE TO EVERYTHING.

  21. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    FORGOT TO SAY GOODBYE AND GOOD LUCK!

  22. a,k.b Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ ALL MIRZAI HERETICS

    THE LONG AND SHORT OF THIS DEBATE IS THAT
    1. MIRJA GHULLA OF QADIAN WAS AN IMPOSTER AND A LIAR..
    2 MIRJAI’S ARE ENEMIES OF PAKISTAN AND ARE ALSO ENEMIES OF ALL RELIGIONS PARTICULARLY ISLAM.
    3. MIRJZAI’S ARE NON MUSLIMS AND ALL MUSLIMS UNANIMOUSLY DECLARE THEM AS SUCH.

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    JINNAH WAS NOT A PROPHET OF YOURS THAT YOU SHOULD FOLLOW HIS CREED. JINNAH’S INCONSISTENT STATEMENTS GIVE THE BENEFIT OF DOUBT TO MUSLIM MAJORITY AND NOT YOU…SEE HIS SPEECH OF 13 jUNE 1948 WHICH IS A FEW MONTHS BEFORE HIS DEATH.
    .
    I NOW LEAVE FOR THE OTHER POSTERS HERE TO DECIDE THE CASE. GOD DOESN’T SEEM TO HELP THE DEVIATE MIRJZAI’S ….AND FOR THAT THE HERETICS WILL HAVE TO RELIVE..AS JUSUS SAID IN THE BIBLE. FOR RELIVING THEY WILL FIRST HAVE TO DIE TO MEET GOD. HAPPY SAILING TO HELL TO MIRJAI HERETICS, TRAITORS OF FAITH AND NON MUSLIMS!!

  23. Syed United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @ akb

    //…ALL MIRZAI HERETICS…THE LONG AND SHORT OF THIS DEBATE IS THAT…//

    The long and short of this debate is as followings :

    1. Ahmadi Muslims are a community among Muslims, who believe that the prophecy issued by the Holy Prophet Muhammad, regarding the Promised Messiah and Mahdi, has by God’s will, been fulfilled, in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian.

    2. It is not for any Parliament or State or any body of clerics to decide who is or is not a Muslim. Such judgements will be made by God on the Day of Judgement and God alone is the competent authority for passing such judgements.

    3. Ahmadi Muslims are loyal, law-abiding peace-loving citizens of whichever country they may happen to live in.

  24. sta Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    //…JINNAH’S INCONSISTENT STATEMENTS…//
    Nonsense. The is no inconsistency in Jinnah’s words or actions. Jinnah clearly spoke of a country in which State and Religion would be kept separate. If there’s any inconsistency, it’s in your confused mind.

  25. MilesToGo United States Opera Windows says:

    jinnah is the third greatest muslim after bin quasim and bin laden.

  26. Kaalchakra United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    Thanks for that great link, AKB! I have to look into that concept of self-aware fields. Is that a metaphor? Is that reality? Is it true? To what level of certainty? :)

    Interesting stuff. Thanks again.

  27. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    i am sensing victory of faith here! to all who have the urge to follow the path of “righteous” are strongly encouraged to bring forward, queries that are confusing them!!!
    may ALLAH lead us all on “sirat e mustaqim” (ameen)

  28. mahee United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    a very interesting, peice of info i came across a courtesy of my senior.
    Related to concept of khatam e nabuwat described in Maulana Muhammad Qasim Nanotvi’s book tehzir un naas. Maulana sahib was an Islamic Scholar and one of the main people responsible for establishing the Deobandi movement.
    maulana writes in his book and i quote with my heretic mirjai mind :
    //”even if a thousand true prophets succeed Holy Prophet (s.a.w) even then his status of being khatim un nabieen will not be changed”"//
    I dont know but what, maulana sahab has said in this small sentence, has conveyed what we ahmadis are screaming on loudest of our pitches for more than a century now. and maulana himself knowing what he is writing does he not get it, or does he decline it on purpose.Because if the all pirs and gaddi nasheen maulvis, start beliving in Massih e mauood , mujadid, imam mehdi Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadian (a.s) their piri fakiri will have to stop.Their followers would have to stop prostrating in front of them, and they will have to start rethinking about unity of ALLAH, AND Muhammed (s.a.w)) as Khtimunabieen ,the seal of prophet, rehmatu lil alamin, mercy for all.Because thats what Promissed messiah was sent for, to bring revival of islam.
    The title khatimunabieen, is for Muhammed (s.a.w) only, it means he is the seal of prophets.no one before or after him can ever be gifted prophethood like him.there is a uniqueness in his prophethood,there is finality in his book , of quran,and his existence for all, is as what GOD says one reason the universe was made, to have Hazrat
    Muhammed(s.a.w) in it.so if for him the entire universe was made , then cant some one who loved him more than himself, be gifted this gift of being Muhammed’s subservient prophet. It’s the glory of Muhammed’s (s.a.w) prophet.Its the ultimate finality in Hazrat Muhammed’s(s.a.w) prophethood that after him no prophet can bring a new shariah or book, but only in his subservience, reviving his teachings, glorifying his name again, reliving the spirit of the true teachings and religion of Hazrat Muhammed(s.a.w).thats the kind of position we ahmadis keep Muhammed(s.a.w) on.
    it,s like if all the prophets sent by allah stand side by side each other, there is only one prophet who has a subservient prophet standing behind him, and that unique Prophet is Hazrat Muhammed (s.a.w), sadiq or ameen.His glory is not in just being the last, his glory is in being the seal, the ring, the greatest, and the unique, and his glory is in when someone get so deeply in love with him then he can be gifted with being his subservient prophet .
    Thats the kind of love ALLAH has for Hazrat Muhammed(s.a.w), and thats how he showered his love on Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed(S.A.W), for being the a true follower of Hazrat Muhammed (s.a.w).JUST LIKE HIS NAME, MIRZA GHULAM AHMED(A.S), WAS A TRUE SUBSERVIENT OF HAZRAT AHMED(S.A.W).

  29. truth power United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    The Prophet Muhammad SA himself said that one who does not accept the mujadid (reformer) of the age dies the death of ‘jahiliya’ (ignorance). So, is the Prophet Muhammad SA less than moderate as well? What do you think will happen if one does not accept the Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah? Just food for thought.

  30. ahmadi Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    MubaraK, to all my brotheres and sisters, finally you have defeated a very nasty and crazy enemy of ahmadis and real islam..
    many many mubaraks! :) :)

  31. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ All Mirjai heretics
    you are best dealt on wwe.irshad.com
    t
    you can go there and scream….like hyana’s do people can send you to hell!!

    .
    Mirjai’s are good word players…stuck around semantics and rhetoric and falsehood. They do need a more strict Blasphemy law to appease them.
    Empty vessels these Mirjai deviates are …..
    .

    I love Hindus and Christians and Sikhs to name a few…not only because they differ in religion with me but because they have a belief which is genuine , original and true and not an imitation and plagiarization of Islam or fouling of other religions which the Mirjai’s adopteed to deceive mankind. Mirjai’s are worse than the Wahabis or the Nazi’s , they are 110 percent Mullah’s who want to rule the world , to exterminate followers of all great religions of the world!!

    Hell to them!

  32. MilesToGo United States Safari Mac OS says:

    mirzai are true followers of Islam. Islam creates prophets and prophets create Islam – the cycle must continue.

  33. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ ahmadi

    .
    ahmadi Mubarak mubarak ! I have fathered a son!!
    AKB: {amazed} How come? YOu are here in London for the last 4 years!
    ahmadi Why, it doesn’t matter. My brothers are not sissies!!

    .

  34. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ ahmadi

    .
    ahmadi Mubarak!! mubarak ! I have fathered a son!!
    AKB: {amazed} How come? YOu are here in London for the last 4 years!
    ahmadi Why, it doesn’t matter. My brothers back home are not sissies!!

  35. ahmadi Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    KHAIR MUBARAK to you as well akb sir,
    //”"LA ILAHAA ILLALLLAH MUHAMADURASULALLAH”"//
    YOU ARE NOW IN THE FOLD OF ISLAM, AND MY NON AHMADI MUSLIM BROTHER, NO ONE NOT EVEN MY FATHER CAN NEGATE It.

    henceforth no matter what you say from now on , you may lie as much as you want, you may use immoral language for me and my other brothers, you may even fabricate false statements relating to any of my deeply respected founders and elders, my faith tells me to give you respect and love.just like all of my other brothers are trying their best to do with you.
    we hope and we pray for your forgiveness and mercy, as i care for you brother, i sincerely do as a muslim , as a human and specially as an ahmadi.
    as for my faith i have seen enough of your side to decide whose on right and whose on the wrong side.thanks alot for strenghthening my faith.none of my ahmadi brothers have ever been immoral, or mis quoted someone, they have been honest and truthful.These are decisive factors in faith.
    may GOD BLESS you, and lead you to right path.
    takecare.

  36. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    Rex minor, as you asked and i quote:
    /////*****And pray tell us what does this great Maulana idividual means with his statement about the hypothesis of ‘IF’ and “thousand true prophets”? Did he write these sentences in arabic language? I realise that you guys are highly romantic and extremely emotional indivduals but what does all this brings for you as an individual, a group or for the Ummah.
    I am a musalman(not a Mohammadan), believe in the God of Ibrahim and accept Mohammad(pbuh) as the last prophet of God who brought for the humanity the religion of Islam.END. I do not belong to any religious group nor recognise any mortal religious authority but am prepared to support school of thoughts which unite and not divide the Ummah./////****

    i respect your questions and i find them very intriguing for my ownself as well, yet i have a few honest answers that i would like to present on this page, because my initial post was meant for this specific place as well.

    1. you tell me that you are a musalman and believer of holy prophet as the last prophet, and you believe in islam.MashAllah God bless you, im really happy to hear that.because believe it or not, my beliefs are exactly the same as yours just one problem i believe you guys think we have is about holy prophet(s.a.w)’s finality. we believe in him as being the last in the way he described himself to be the last.As the only time he used the word last to describe himself , was in this following hadees “Ana aakhir ul anbiyaa wa masjidee haza akhir ul masaajid” [Bukhari].
    ‘ana’ I or me ”aakhir ul anbiyn” Last of the Prophets, ‘wa’ and ‘haza’ means this ‘akhirul masaajid” which means ”the last of mosques.
    hence as a true follower of the HOLY PROPHET (S.A.W) of islam it,s my obligation to know how and why he said that. and divine wisdom of promissed messiah and my own tiny bit of wisdom tells me that he said this to tell that just like there is a grandeur and uniqueness in masjid e nabawi that differentiates it from all other mosques therefore there is a uniqueness , finality and glory in Holy Prophets prophethood that cannot be overtaken by any prophet before him or after him.He is the seal and now any one that God sends as a messenger for revival will come under his subservience, with the same teachings Holy Prophet brought and reitrate the same principles of islam , the foundations of which have been laid by Holy Prophet(s.a.w) already and only him. in short who ever comes will be the best example of a true follower of Muhammed (s.a.w).
    My holy founder Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (a.s) proved himself worthy by being a true ummati of Muhammed(s.a.w), you can go to any place and check that for yourself why Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani (a.s), was chosed by GOD, it will be in history what a real restorer and champion of islam he was in subcontinent.For his extravagant and exceptional services to islam and Prophet Muhammed (a.s) prophethood was gifted to him, alongwith being a divine saint, imam mehdi and promissed messiah.his teachings are in direct relation with Muhammed (s.a.w) and islam.he has in no way changed any words of quran or sunnah ,but he has given us some divine knowledge about the truth of other religions, like hinduism, sikhism,zorostrianism, he has negated the flaws that have come in many faithful followers of islam by negating the concept piri muridi which is widely prevalent now, praying on graves of dead an act that has deeply immersed itself in a normal muslim”s faith, etc etc.He has been able to do all that with divine help of God , who was directly in contact with him.You read his words and judge for yourself , whether its a normal person or a man with knowledge speaking.

    2. you told me your faith and beliefs and what ever you have with God, is between you and him.

    3.As a true human , it is of binding importance on me to strive for the truth, and share my enlightened opinions with my fellows human beings so as to help them in their struggle for finding truth as well.Therefore i share my knowledge as much as i can , i have no doubts in my mind as to what im on, there is no point of being emotional here in quoting an objective statement.
    The person ,im reffering to above is Maulana Muhammad Qasim Nanotvi, he is a renowed religious scholar, founder of darululoom, deobandi sect.He is one of the founding establisher of deoband school of thought and clearly “NOT AN AHMADI”.
    I qoute him , as true to his word as i can be.i donot take the words of any religious scholar no matter of what faith he is, as a joke or romantic poetry.Religious scholars are men of sound mind and what they write is i believe to be read with respect. What maulana sahab said about thousand prophets are his words not mine, im only trying to bridge the differences here by saying thats what ahmadis believe too.It pretty clear what he wrote and i dont think it need any of my emotional debate or explaination , i just find it a very good way of mending our ways and finding the real truth.
    Now, whatever way you want to take maulana sahab”s words is your own will, and you are completely entitled to your opinion, i respect that.but it supports my argument in alot of ways so im entitled to use it.I dont find anything romantic about this logical way of reasoning .
    **peace**

  37. truth power Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    dear rex minor,
    sir in order to make things even better i will quote Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed (a.s)
    promissed messiah says
    “”O ye learned people of Islam!””
    O ye learned people among the Muslims! Do not be hasty in rejecting me as false. There are many profound secrets which man cannot comprehend in a hurry, all at once. You should not be ready to reject a thing the moment you hear it, for this is not the way of the righteous. Had there been no errors among you, and if you had not interpreted certain Ahadith in a manner contrary to their real sense, then the advent of the Messiah, as a judge and adjudicator among you, would have been a useless thing. The mission you assign to this advent, namely, that he would join force with the Mahdi, to make war on all in order forcibly to convert them to Islam, is a belief which brings disgrace to Islam. Where at all is it written in the Quran that war is permissible for the sake of spreading one’s religion by force? On the contrary we find Allah saying in the Holy Book:
    There is no compulsion in matters connected with religion.
    Then wherefrom would the Messiah, son of Mary, get the right to use force for converting people to Islam? The entire Quran is replete to the effect that there can be no coercion in religion; and it is absolutely clear on the point that when the Holy Prophet took up the sword, he did not do so to spread Islam by this means, but (i) as a due punishment for these who had killed a large number of Muslims, and had driven out many others from their homes. We read in the Holy Book: “Permission has been given to those who fight because they had been oppressed, and Allah indeed has the power to help them (in spite of the odds against them)” 22:39. (ii) Or these wars were defensive, fought against people who were leaving no stone unturned to extirpate Islam and to stop its propagation by force of arms. (iii) Or they were fought to assert legitimate freedoms. Apart from campaigns undertaken for these three aims, the Holy Prophet and his blessed Khalifas fought no war, whatsoever. In fact, before taking up arms in self defence Islam bore oppression with silent fortitude to an extent of which there is no example in the history, of other peoples. Then what kind of a Messiah and Mahdi would these be who would embark on their mission by putting their opponents to the sword right from the start.

  38. truth power Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    promiised messiah said
    “”///Everyone who is purified, is purified through firmness of conviction. It is conviction which gives you the strength to bear hardships, even to the extent of persuading a king to abdicate his royal throne and take to the life of a mendicant. Conviction dissolves all difficulties. Conviction enables a man to see God. All ideas of any atoning sacrifice are false, for every kind of purity comes only from firm conviction. The only thing which delivers a man from sin, and advances him in sincerity and steadfastness, far ahead of the angels themselves, is conviction and conviction alone. All religions which fail to create this firmness of conviction are false. All religions which fail to show God by means beyond any shadow of doubt are false; and all those religions are false which contain nothing more than a handful of tales and fables about what happened in the past///****

    Ahmaddiyyat is to clear all the dissent and wide blank space that have come in the linear continous flow of islam. Ahmmaddiyat is to purge all the turbulence, ahmadi is to be human first, than muslim, than real follower of Holy Prophet (s.a.w), than the a believer of Promissed messiah and brother of followers of all the major religions of the world, all people of the book, may it be sikh, deo bandi or jew.All our people of the divine books, and respect of their religions and books and imperative on an ahmadi.Ahmaddiyyat has brought all religions under one roof and every shadow of doubt that any of us may have related to any religion is clarified by ahmadiyyat.The concept is not so palatable for the “orthodoxia” of all religions, but for moderates and enlightened wise its a breath of fresh air.
    no matter what your doubt with ahmaddiyyat is, you must read ahmadi literature written by the divine founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmed(a.s) , and your doubt will be cleared.the condition for reading is “conviction”.
    After all this and above, now is ahmadiyyat for dividing all or joining is what i leave for you to decide.

  39. m.ahmadi Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    Go to:
    http://www.real-islam.org

    for enlightenment and nourishment of your faith.

  40. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ Ahmedi heretic
    read Jinnah’s speech i have posted earlier above…he warns the minorities ”to prove their sincerity to the county and your fellow countymen in majority THROUGH action and not only words”’….
    Even GAndhi, Nehru, Kabir, Nanak, Tagore, Einstein to name a few could recite the kalima which was certainly not sufficient enough to qualify them to be Muslims. You too are acting against the teachings of Jinnah and rationality by falsely uttering words but acting against them. Thus you are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites and heretics!

  41. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ Mirzai deviates and heretics

    Damn with your frigging promised messiah!!
    Aga Khanis say Aga khan is the one real one…
    Shia’s say they have 12 Imams…hazir imam and one vanished one who is the promised messiah
    Muslims say Hadrat Isa (Jesus) will be the Promised Messiah…

    I am with the last one, okay?? Keep your dummy and imposter messiah with you!!
    visit http://www.irshad.com to know more about the evil of Mirjai pariah’s…..

  42. Maggu India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Truth Power: Thanks very much for bringing the true words to us. Thank you

  43. truth power United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    akb bhai, you have quoted a very good speech of my beloved Quaid Muhammed Ali Jinnah, i love every bit of it. but what im not getting is that why why are you refferring this on ahmadis? Ahmadis were not a minority in Quaid’S time , rather some of the close friends Quaid had were all ahmadis and i dont know why do we have to remind you this again and again that when your favourite jammat of maulvis called majlis e ahrar asked him to declare ahmadis as non muslims, Quaide azam said, “religion is a matter between man and God , and if ahmadis say they are muslims no parliament or constitution can declare them non muslims”
    aray bhai, why do you want to get slapped again and again, because every time you bring non sense in front of us, all we have to restrain ourselves is from laughing.When Quaide azam , was alive ahmadis were not a minority but parsis were, and they have every right on their nation as nation has right on its national, irrespective of what religion they are of, society is made like that.Nation is made up of various societies, living together, accpeting and tolerating, each other as well serving its nation in the best possible means, since you have forgotten what a civillised society of today is like. You must have because pakistan now is a true face of a barbaric society no way a civilised one any more.
    And Akb, now that you have questioned patriotism of an ahmadi by bringing up this speech i will give you some real facts about how patriotic an ahmadi is:
    1. Major General Iftikhar Janjua, a pakistan army general and an ahmadi muslim, who was the only general in pakistan army”s history who fought war from the front unlike all other generals who lead from behind. Major General Iftikhar janjua, who fought against indian army from the frontline , in 1971 war and he fought so bravely and so courageously that not only did he won the war at his end in chamb, Kashmir, he gave his life in the name of Pakistan in this war.and let me tell you as a matter of fact akb, that in 1971 pakistani army was badly loosing against indian at all ends, in mirpur khas sindh area and not to mention the lost east pakistan. Symbolically speaking it was this battle which sustained the morale of the army in West Pakistan and provided much needed credibility to sustain and preserve the army’s image in the wake of the traumatic events of December 1971.
    It was leading from the front for which General Iftikhar is remembered even today by the troops who served in 23 Division during the Battle of Chamb. It was this quality which enabled him to arrive at a realistic appraisal of the actual situation and win so convincingly. and that is why armies on both sides still study General Iftikhar’s war tactics and strategies which he applied in the 23 divisions, in the war of chamb.there is a whole town after his name in that area called Iftikharabad.
    The indian army has praised him on so many places.You must search it for yourself what high values and regards the armies on both sides have for General Iftikhar.he is titled by some as the best general that has ever come in south asia, all for his bravery his steadfastness and most importantly unconditional love for his country Pakistan, he is still remmemmbered.
    furthermore more, Major General Gurcharan Singh Sandhu an indian army general writes in his book the Indian armour history of the Indian Armoured Corps -1941-1971 ,”"”It is ironic that Third World countries study Napoleon and Slim when they have great military commanders like Eftikhar, Akhtar and Abrar. “”"
    another irony for you akb here is that all of the above mentioned generals, who were such outstanding examples of patriotism and passionate defenders of their country Pakistan WERE ALL AHMADIS.
    1.General iftikhar hussain,
    2.General Akhtar hussian,
    3General abdul ali Malik.
    above were all ahmadis, and well-known rather renowed exemplary figures of Pakistan army.the forged history of pakistan has been unable to erase their names and if it would have than ask the enemies!!! they still have records and they learn from them, not to mention keep them in highest regard. you ask me about patriotism:
    1.the first foreign minister of Pakistan, for his representation of Pakistan at the United Nations, and serving as a judge at the International Court of Justice in The Hague, was an ahmadi , Sir Zafarullah Khan.
    2.the first and only noble prize winner for pakistan was an ahmadi.
    3.the youngest female holder of both Pakistani and world records based on her passing of O Level, Sitara Burooj Akbar is an ahmadi.

    Pakistan, is in flesh and blood of every pakistani ahmadi, ahmadis have a major role in the fight for independence for pakistan.there is a speech of Quaideazam, that he gave directily from ahmadi mosque called baitulfazal in london. it was an ahmadi imam, Mr dard, who urged Quaid to struggle and not give up, when Quaideazam had gone back to london after being bitterly dissapointed and dishearted from congress.Dard sahib, arranged various sessions with quaid in 1937, to convince him in to going back to subcontinent and fight for the rights of muslims of subcontinent,and he succeeded when Quaide azam announced in a press conference his “re-entering” into politics right from the hallway in Baitul fazal mosque ,london.Which in new Pakistan, is a qadiani worship place but at that time was muslim community mosque, and Quaide offered prayers there, so much for pakistani parliament and its certifified muslim mosques to bear. at that time ironically one of the most bitter enemies of idea of pakistan was majlis e ahrar, which after independence changed its name to “khatamenabowat”, and proclaims itself now to be more pakistani than any of us heretics who died fighting for it..

  44. truth power Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    and yes as to whatever shia says its their faith, a matter between them and God, me and you are no one to declare them non muslims, whatever aga khanis say is between them and god not for you to decide.
    you are no one to judge any one faith, you do not have the power.
    Ahmadis are true followers of Holy Prophet (s.a.w), because in his hadees he commanded his ummat to accept his imam mahdi , and we are ctually the one who are following it.Its in ibn e majah, Holy Prophet said, when you discover mahdi, swear allegiance to him, even if you have to crawl towards him,He is ALLAH’S khalifa, the Mahdi”".
    And when you ask when did we discover mehdi ? well we discovered him , right after the hadees in whinch grand prophecy of arrival of mahdi and promissed messiah was made by Muhammed(s.a.w) , fullfilled itself word by word event by event right and after Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (a.s) declared that it will.now even though you know what the prophecy of prophet (saw) is about coming of imam mahdi i will write it again and again until your ears start hearing and mind start accepting it”" in dar ul qutni hazrat Imam Baqir grandson of Hazrat Imam Hussain (a.s) has narrated holy prophet as saying “”For Our Mahdi there are two Signs which have never appeared before since the creation of the heavens and the earth, namely, the moon will be eclipsed on the first night in Ramazan (i.e. on the first of the nights on which a lunar eclipse can occur) and the sun will be eclipsed on the middle day (i.e.; on the middle one of the days on which a solar eclipse can occur), and these Signs have not appeared since God created the heavens and the earth.”
    Now, if you say that this hadees is from unauthentic source, let me clear this to you that this hadees was a hadees that had been in the Prophet”s faily household, it was being trasferred to generation as an authentic prophecy for coming of Mahdi, and this Hadees is authetic as well because because its in direct compliance with the teachings of Quran , as its written in surat Qiyamah”"
    When the eye is dazzled, and the moon is eclipsed, and the sun and the moon are brought together (i.e. the Sun will also eclipse), on that day man will say, ‘Whither to flee?’ (Surah Al-Qiyamah, 75:8-11),
    hence the words are similar as Quran, the hadees is no doubt completely authetic.
    its authentic also because other religious books have similar words for the coming of promissed messiahi”The Holy Bible Says :

    Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken ; And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven. (Matthew Ch. 24 Verse 29 & 30.)
    hence in no way is this hadees unauthentic, i have proved it with solid argument and quoted solid evidence.
    And During 1894 A.D, in the month of Ramadhan the Lunar and Solar Eclipses occurred on Wednesday the 21st March, and Friday the 6th April respectively , in 1894 in the eastern hemisphere and in 1895 similar events occurred in western hemisphere.

    if you ask me now why i follow Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmed(a.s), it is because he claimed it”s happening and his claims were fullfilled by God as it is.

  45. Dark Knight Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    @AKB (December 10, 2012 at 3:13 am)
    //…read Jinnah’s speech i have posted earlier above…he warns the minorities ”to prove their sincerity to the county and your fellow countymen in majority THROUGH action and not only words”…//

    .

    You ought to think before you speak – at least occasionally. The man who convinced Jinnah to return to India and serve as the sole spokesman of both the Indian Muslims and the Muslim-majority states of India, was an Ahmadi. The man who represented Pakistan before the Radcliffe Commission, was an Ahmadi. The man who was picked by Jinnah as Pakistan’s first Foriegn Minister, was an Ahmadi. The only Pakistani to have risen to occupy the world’s highest judicial and diplomatic positions, was an Ahmadi. The only Pakistani to have won a Nobel Prize for Pakistan, was an Ahmadi. The only general of the Pakistan Army to have died in combat, fighting to defend his country, was an Ahmadi.

  46. sta Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @Dark Knight

    //…AKB..You ought to think before you speak…//

    .

    How can he think without brain tissue ?

  47. mahee Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    akb, wooww, there is actually no end to your gibberish talk, where the hell has your mind gone grazing?you actually have no sense of self respect left in you, to hide one lie you,ve already made up thousands,when will this madness end?? you once quoted something from i dont know where but for you i say”zaeeful ul aqeedah logon wali baatain mat karo”" im sure what you were refferring to here was yourself!
    enough akb enough, stop contradicting yourself, you are showing more weakness in your faith than ever before, it’s really a waste of time talking to such a weak immoral non sensical person! no point at all.you must realise you are headed in a very wrong direction..go and get some real knowledge enough of cheap literature and third class century old arguments!!!

  48. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    @ ylh
    i WILL BELIEVE A WORD FROM YLH ONLY ON THE JINNAH’S SPEECH THAT I HAVE POSTED CONCERNING MINORITIES BECAUSE HE IS NOT A MIRJAI…NAMURAAD!!

    ;
    YOU UGLY MIRJAI’S ARE PRETENTIOUSLY LYING LOT….NOBODY IS GOING TO TRUST YOU DEMENTED LOT!!
    SHAME ON YOU FOR NOT EVEN ABLE TO CONVINCE A PERSON HERE OF YOUR CROOKED LOGIC AND FRAILTY!!

  49. AKB Pakistan Opera Windows says:

    To All Mirjai adjudged heretics…
    a warning to them by the Christians..
    .

    ”Half Truthers—Masters of Deception

    The Temptation and Fall of Mankind: “Now the serpent [disguised as Satan, the devil] was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, ‘Has God indeed said, “You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”‘ And the woman said to the serpent, ‘We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, “You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.”‘ Then the serpent said to the woman, ‘You will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.’”1

    When God created man and woman— Adam and Eve—he placed them in the Garden of Eden—which, at the time, was a perfect world—and not wanting mankind to be puppets on a string, God gave them a free will so they could freely choose to follow and obey him and be greatly blessed, or go their own way and pay the natural consequences. Along came Satan who, wanting to take revenge against God because in his attempt to dethrone God when he was one of the most beautiful angels in Heaven, was cast out of Heaven, came to Eve to tempt her to turn from God and, in so doing, destroy the apex of God’s creation.

    To tempt Adam and Eve, Satan told Eve a part truth. Adam and Eve both knew that God had told them that if they ate of the forbidden fruit, they would surely die; that is, they would die spiritually and be eternally separated from God. So Satan said to Eve, “You will not die but be like God knowing both good and evil.” This was partly true in that she would know both good and evil, but what Satan didn’t tell Eve was that if she ate of the forbidden fruit, she would not only know good and evil but would be forever confirmed in a fallen state of evil.

    Tragically, Adam and Eve bought into Satan’s lie, ate of the forbidden fruit and fell into sin. In so doing, they introduced sin and evil into the entire human race.

    Unfortunately, part-truths can be the most deceptive form of lies there are. For instance, every false cult claiming to be a bearer of God’s Truth always has an element of truth in their teaching, as this is what makes them believable to those who are not aware of what God teaches in his Word, the Bible. The tragedy in this life is that if and when we turn from God and his ways to go our own way, we remove ourselves from God’s blessings and bring the natural consequences of our sin and rebellion upon ourselves. This is why it is imperative that each of us reads and studies God’s Word so we know exactly the ways of God and his truth, so that we will not be deceived by Satan and his evil demons, and ultimately be destroyed.”

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