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Imran Khan: Where Critics like Me Went Wrong in Estimating His Popularity

Raza Habib Raja

It is often alleged that ISI is supporting him. It may actually be true but ISI is not the only one supporting him. It is alleged that reactionaries support him. Well may be true again but once again they are not the only one. It is said that a segment of urban middleclass with passion for Allama Iqbal’s Islam  supports him. Yes it does but here too, it is not the only one. Imran is now being supported by many in ADDITION to the categories I have just mentioned.

Ladies and Gentlemen, urban middleclass alone cannot fill huge venues and as far as almost all the reports are concerned, the massive rallies were attended by people from all walks of life.

Something else is happening here APART from the alleged ISI support. ISI can arrange logistics, can perhaps pressurize or bribe media, but cannot suddenly create mass scale conversion from all walks of life to Imran Khan’s PTI. Hassan Nisar, who by all accounts is a liberal and very outspoken journalist nailed it right that Imran is like a wild cat after seeing whom the opponents have simply closed their eyes. He also pointed out that while it is true that Imran’s party is a one man show even PPP during its rise was like that. Politics in our part of the world takes the same trajectory. And it is that fact which is most tragic.

And it is the time that we realize and acknowledge it: He has the mass support now. As one of my friends aptly pointed out after the Lahore rally that denial is not a river in Egypt.

YES, HIS MESSAGE AND IDEOLOGICAL ORIENTATION IS NOT RIGHT. Sorry Imran Khan supporters, your leader needs to improve his rhetoric. Yes he panders to  establishment narrative and frankly I do not think whipping Allama Iqbal style of Islam is the right thing to do. But the problem is that this is something which almost all have done at one point or the other.

Yes, it is a one man show and as someone pointed out that if Imran were to die, where would PTI go. All these are valid criticisms  but the problem is that  almost all his alternatives are riddled with the same issue. Imran is a one man show but so are other parties who are reliant on dynasty politics. Dynasty politics is also an improvised form of personal politics.

Yes critics are right when they point out that in reality Imran’s party (since it has invited turncoats)  is no different but then this also begs a question: Why vote for his alternatives then? So the voters are looking at just one factor: Imran’s personality. Yes it is perhaps a very narrow criterion but in their heads they have a justification that if all the parties are the same then the sole difference is perhaps the main leaders. So the comparison in their head  is not between PPP, PML N and PTI but between Zardari, Nawaz and Imran. It is a sorry state of affairs but this is what happens when you blindly follow and promote personalized politics. In Pakistan before Imran’s rise began, this is what the supporters of other parties have been doing: just promoting personality and legacy politics. When you do that, eventually you are yourself preparing the grounds for the rise of people like Imran. If a Sharif or Bhutto is larger than their parties, then why complain if Imran is larger than PTI?

Yes, critics are also right when they talk about Imran’s appeasing attitude towards Taliban but his surge of popularity has not come due to his appeasement towards Taliban. And in recent times even his stance about Taliban is changing as now he has to cater to people from a wider ideological bent.

Due to complex interplay of many factors he is becoming larger than life. For someone who has been called a media construct by a host of journalists ( I am also one of those though technically I cannot be called a journalist), the rise is amazing and this fact is difficult to fathom as it runs completely contrary to our earlier assertions. I have myself called him a political minnow and so have some very famous journalists whom I respect a lot.

We have mocked at him, called him a political minnow, a political nobody and have portrayed him as someone whom only some urban middleclass professionals, right wing zealots and a  few crazy internet trolls could like. Well, all of them still like him but now the support base has increased to include many others.

It is obvious that massive rallies have shocked all the political analysts  and consequently the reaction is understandable: It has to be solely the grand conspiracy of establishment  and its mouth piece, the electronic media.

Yes it is partly true but in my opinion it does not explain all the reality.

Well media is not monolithic and has various channels and so to assume that somehow or the other all the channels have been bought over by the army to prop up Imran is stretching it too much. Yes, it is somewhat pro Imran but then it has been pro Imran for many years now and the reasons are generally commercial because media’s main target market, the urban middleclass likes to watch Imran. However, Imran’s surge in popularity is recent and it is no longer just confined to urban middleclass. This is crucial to understand because we can no longer deny that Imran is popular now. In fact for the past many months all the opinion polls conducted by foreign reputable firms have been indicating Imran’s surge in popularity and that popularity cut across the supporters of all the political parties and various income groups.

Of course, at that time I brushed their findings aside (with mocking comments), but was stunned into believing when I saw the Lahore rally and also various snaps taken by my previously apolitical friends showing not only that the crowd was huge but consisted of people from eclectic backgrounds. And yes the crowds included a lot of women and even children.

And then I know that many people with moderate and even liberal orientation were also there and coming out impressed. The new support base has broadened across ideological spectrum also.

So what are the dynamics here?

Well whether we like to admit it or not the fact is that political parties, particularly PPP and PML N have not delivered. Yes, they may like to blame establishment and army and lament that they do not have any power but then if you have excuses then you should not be asking for people to vote at all. I mean why ask for vote when you also claim that you don’t have any power at all. It is common sense, which unfortunately is not common, that saying that we do not have ANY power and still asking for votes ( with promises that we will deliver) is severely contradictory.

Yes army is a meddling institution and THE worst blood sucker of Pakistan but even then political parties have a substantial domain to operate. And if they had not, then they would have simply ceased to exist. And Imran even if supported by military still has to appeal to the people and will be competing for votes.

The point what I am trying to make is that where BOTH the political parties had the leverage, they failed.

Imran’s surge in popularity is the direct outcome of the perceived failure of BOTH the parties coupled with a general perception that he is sincere and has rendered outstanding services to Pakistan. And let me admit here that he has rendered outstanding services to Pakistan. It is public perception of Imran’s personality in CONTRAST to the worsening public perception of the current political lot, which has primarily resulted in the rise. Of course Imran had a positive repute before also but the perception about PPP and PML N leadership had not worsened to that extent. When a particular threshold was crossed, the mass scale conversions began. Momentum once achieved had dynamics of its own. Once sceptics see huge crowds they are ready to join due to increase in electability. Plus Imran has never been into power, therefore many want to give him a chance.

During these four years, whereas substantial progress has been made on constitutional issues, but economic situation has really deteriorated squeezing people. Disillusionment has grown due to worsening law and order situation and constant political fighting between centre and Punjab. On top of it, the nepotism has worsened and severe violations of merit have taken place. In Karachi, we have seen constant bloodshed while money mafia continues to threaten people and exhort money.

Eventually people get sick. GOVERNANCE IS IMPORTANT. It is not merely a middle class cherished ideal which “liberals” allege is divorced from the “real” concerns of life, nor it is a right wing “abstract” propelled by media. It is something which eventually will be factored in. YES IT WILL BE FACTORED IN and HAS BEEN FACTORED IN.

Yes they are right when they say that establishment has tried to sabotage but at the same time their own incompetency has not helped either.

And add to that their selection of media communicators. I am really sorry to say that when your spokespersons consist of people like Baber Awan, Rehman Malik, Firdous Aashiq Awan, Rana Sana Ullah and Chaudry Nisar Ali Khan then you are merely worsening an already hostile environment.

Which parties in their right frame of mind would employ the services of such people?

And constant references to historic struggles (PPP during Zia and PML N during Musharraf times) have outlived their utility. SORRY once again.

In times of despair, it is natural human tendency to clutch at any glimmer of hope. If people are thinking that Imran is the last hope then for God sake try to do some soul searching as to why situation has reached that extent rather than imagining grand conspiracies everywhere.

And finally, be credible in criticism of Imran and learn to give credit when it is due. If he has apologized to Baluch then have a heart and acknowledge it. If he has mentioned about minorities then once again at least acknowledge it rather than complaining as to why no minority was allowed to speak.

Criticism looks appealing when it is credible.

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44 Responses to "Imran Khan: Where Critics like Me Went Wrong in Estimating His Popularity"

  1. rex minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    An excellent article at a time when people of Pakistan have very few alternatives if they were to continue in following the so called democratic Govt. structures based on two parties system.

    Pakistan definitely need total reforms of its institutions including constitution, judiciary, education, army and civil administrations, the priority being given to the survival of sovereinity.

    Mr Imran Khan is a populist political figure and carries a lot of baggage, He was married to the daughter of a mega zionist figure and is going to be a serious security risk, should he be successful in his endeavours. As articulated in the article he is unlikely to hold on to its current stance in politics. peoples party or the rest have not delivered what they promised and always hoped for similar to most of the muslim and non muslim Govts. be it democratic or authoritative ones. Pakistanis need a new democratic order in their country based on justice, equality and protection for all its citizens. Pakistan military doctrine has been to stay away from the civilian control of the Govt. as long as they do not require military intervention to control the masses!

    Rex Minor

    Rex Minor

  2. kaalchakra United States Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    RHR

    Good article. But there is another phenomenon that we should keep in my mind, as we look at these ‘sudden social movements’. And what follows below may not be directly relevant to IK at all.

    It’s the unavoidable “debris effect.” Any glacier, after it has gathered *sudden momentum*, at some point in time, begins to swell by picking up more and more debris. For the debris, it is not THIS glacier that matters; it could be ANY glacier which would move the debris in the direction of its susceptibility – in which the it could be easily dislodged.

    PS: For those who may recall their high-school physics, sudden momentum gain manifests briefly lived force in the same direction.

    ——————-

    That’s my right-wing twopence, which I love to share with the liberal people I admire :)

  3. RHR United States Safari  Android 2.3.4 Silk/1.1.0-84 says:

    Thanks Kamal

    I admire your intelligence also and always read your insights despite being in ideological difference with you!

  4. Mnoor Pakistan Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Excellent article. Pakistan’s politics is essentially personality driven, and at this moment on personal popularity Imran is much ahead of Nawaz and Zardari. Unfortunately sustained good governance under a democracy ultimately rests with better institutions rather than magnetic personalities. Still we look forward to success of IK, hoping that he may end up strengthening institutions as well.

  5. Atiq Rehman Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    Though I hate the sellout, Najam Sethi said it brilliantly:
    “Establishment is pushing IK and public are pulling him”

    Raza, I’d only add that don’t forget that 78% of Pakistanis still think that the military is the best institution of Pakistan (Gallup), much to the disbelief of our liberal friends. The simple fact is that the ‘establishment’ agenda is backed by 78% of Pakistan.

    The Liberal movement, with all it’s benefits, is still a minority and not reflective of the attitudes of Pakistanis. While PML-N leaders may now be publicly anti-establishment, their supporters are not. PPP’s supporters may be anti-establishment but Zardari wont give up a good deal. ANP and MQM are as pro-establishment as PTI if not more. In short, whether a party is less or more pro-establishment can’t be termed a good enough reason for its ability to draw crowds. I agree with you, his personal pull has overtaken the establishment push!

  6. RHR United States Internet Explorer Windows says:

    @ Atiq

    ANP is not pro establishment and I do not think that army is agreat institution. Yes I agree with what you say about MQM and also what Najam Sethi has said..

    Regards

    Raza

  7. Imtiaz Canada Safari Unknow Os says:

    Brilliantly written and much better than typical stuff appearing at newspapers like express tribune.

  8. omar United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    I agree with most of what you say, though i am not sure about the “all walks of life”..I think the participation of POOR people (as opposed to middle class people who think they are poor compared to the cousin who is friends with Humayun Akhtar) was RELATIVELY low. That doesnt mean he is not popular among poor people…they are suffering more than anyone from PPP and PMLN’s failure to deliver and may vote for him too, but just saying that the crowds were NOT poor people.
    But admitting that he is popular is a minor correction (many of us have said repeatedly that he is genuinely popular). Popular trends can also be wrong (look at the popularity of the Muslim League amongst UP Muslims in 1946). The real problem remains the same: his theoretical framework and his proposed policies are naive, unworkable and dangerous. He seems to genuinely believe in the nonsense they teach in Pak studies classes in Aitchison college and in some “system” that he thinks was implemented in the khilafat e rashida (the term itself is a later creation..the neat division into khilafat e rashida and Ummayad time was not there when it happened, it was created by later historians) and he also admires Sweden and Singapore as models. How to marry the actually existing systems of Singapore and Sweden (themselves very different) with the imaginary Khilafat e Rashida while living and working in actually existing Pakistan and sincerely believing in the so-called “two-nation-theory”..well, easier said than done. Not just easier said than done, but bound to fail.

  9. Tilsim United Kingdom Safari Mac OS says:

    It’s good to hope. It’s good to want change. It’s good to try out new faces (well, that was the original idea at least with TI). However it’s dangerous to be naive. A lot of Imran’s support comes from people who are just getting engaged into politics for the first time. Imran is a master at rhetoric aimed at the urban middle and upper middle class. The references to Singapore or Sweden only have real resonance for them. He is consolidating their vote first. Pakistan’s base conditions are nowhere near the base conditions that Singapore or Sweden had amongst it’s polity. I agree with Omar, these are soundbites. Like any good politician he has to first consolidate his core supporter.

    Imran has not done the hard work to address or determine the most immediate reasons for Pakistan’s ailments. If he did, we could judge him by the performance of a term in office. Instead we have claims to establish a welfare state, which everyone knows is an exceedingly costly business and long term affair. Addressing Pakistan’s actual concerns might actually increase the pressure of the gas coming through the average person’s dying cooker or heater. Don’t hope for this from Imran Khan’s PTI.

    Imran’s support is the triumph of hope over reason. That’s ok – we saw it before with BB and ZAB and NS.
    I just hope these first time voters don’t lose it if he fails to deliver and turn to extremist forces in desperation.

  10. RHR United States Internet Explorer Windows says:

    @ Omar

    I agree with what you say.

    Regards

    Raza

  11. larki desi Sweden Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Imran yes, he is the MAN.

  12. rex minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    No conentional power can now withstand the rise of the so called Talibas; Imran Khan was the first Pakistan politician who proposed a diaogue with them and it woud seem had severa contacts with Mullah Omar and co. Imran Khan must improve upon his Pashto and take a decisive distance from Mr Musharaf who sent his security people to arrest Mr Khan in his Islamabad villa!

    rex minor

  13. hiob Germany Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    to Omar and RHR

    No matter what you say or write this arab religion will ruin Pakistan and its leaders and misuse them and disgrace the people of Pakistan.

    That is what Omar also has said, albeit using indirect words. The worst of islam is yet to come and Pakistan has and will have a big destructive role in this. Neither Imran nor the House of Imran will help. Islam and Pakistan will cause a lot of death and destruction in India also. In fact many pakistanis proudly say that if Pakistan is hurt then, no matter who hurts Pakistan, we will inflict destruction on India. The arab religion has pakistanis in its totalitarian grip to be used for its fascist goals for many generations to come.

  14. Kamath Canada Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Where did I read that Imran Khan made tall claims in public that if he elected, he would eliminate corruption in Pakistan in 90 days?

    Is it possible?

  15. rex minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    @Hiob,
    India has its own concerns and the world of so called muslim countries from Indonesia to Yemen- Turkey and Kosovo to central Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and beyond, has its own economical, political as well as social and religion issues within the overall Islamic vision. No one wants a khalifa state nor any dictate or control of the state for once personal religion; you are not a believer, therefore cannot appreciate how personal a religion is to every so called muslim. If all the actors would simply do a clean up within and infront of their own house, the woes of the humanity are very likely to lessen and not cause disruption or destruction as you call it, in the neighbourhood!

    The art of the surfing is to ride above as well as with the tide and not against it. Imran Khan or karachiwala or Punjabi Pir are no exceptions nor in any way less clever than the imposter son of a kenyan who not only became the white chief but fooled many in the world and obtained a Nobel peace prize, while continuing and extending the war against humans causing death and destruction in several countries. He claims to have the authority from the law which the congress passed against the so called terrorists during George W times!

    Imran is currently riding the Psunami risking his personal safety and potential dismembering of Pakistan, alternatevely this could turnout to be a outlet for the people of the subcontinent to rid themselves of erratic political elites from the Bhutto camp who have just about managed to mortgage Pakistan independence.

    @kamath

    The use of the word ‘corruption’ in politics is now a norm, even fashonable and not more than a new stich(masche in German), in use in most countries of the world. No Govt. institution or a political party is immune from this phenomina. Wall street decides as to who the President of the USA is going to be and it is the the wealth of the individual and the wealth of the lobbyists which decide today as to who is likely to become the leader of a political movement and who is going to become the head of the Govt.
    Acording to Mr Obama the USA spent a billion dollars to help remove the former Libyan leader without sending a single soldier in the country. What does the new American strategy in foreign policy tell the world? War with conventional weapons should be replaced by war with money. Mind you the Americans have more since they just print the paper money anyway.

    Take care and watch what is currently brewing in Indian politics? CORRUPTION?

    Rex Minor

  16. RHR United States Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Hiob

    You are really determined troll..

    What the hell are you discussing on an article pertaining to imran Khan??

  17. hiob Germany Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    to rex

    It is true that India has many worries and islamic fascism and expansionism in and from Pakistan is one major one. More and more countries are coming into this same situation regarding Pakistan and one day even China will be in this situation. Islamic arrogance, totalitarianism and imperialism has caused many wounds to the non-muslims and non-arabs and worst is yet to come. Corruption is bad but not the worst malady. Fascism in the name of a god is far worse a malady and danger and Pakistan is the proud epicenter of this mental and political disease. The black-box religion from Makkah is making its followers more and more into zombies, cowards, deceivers and their leaders can survive only by using fascist methods and the populace joins in. Everything good that was or is said about islam tunrs out to be a lie.

  18. hiob Germany Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    to RHR

    Imran Khan is a wolf, sometimes in sheeps’ clothes. He is a dedicated quisling of islam. I mentioned Imran Khan specifically in my post. Was it false? I haven’t heard him say anything good about India, hindus and hindu religions. So he is going to be the same wanna-be khalifa or amir (like Nawaz wanted to be before he got a bloody nose from some other muslim wanna-be). Popularity in Pakistan depends upon how quislingish you are vis-a-vis islam, arabs and turks (and chinese also!).

    I also seconded what Omar wrote. How come you call me a troll (is that your habit or grudge against me?) when many others are writing far more irrelevant things and also very obscene or abusive or filthy things.

    As an Indian I am very very very worried about the islamic fascism and islam-glorifying lies emanating from Pakistan, and Imran Khan will also be a quisling-cum-agent of this fascism. The worst is yet to come.

  19. Amjad Cheema United Kingdom Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Its show of media which is mostly production of Aabpara industry.
    The problem is this that his so called youth has been taught lies for the last 140 years, it would probably take another 1400 years to teach them humanity.

  20. RHR United States Internet Explorer Windows says:

    @ amjad cheema…

    Why this “youth” was willing to believe in ZAB in 1960s and 70s..Just a polite question and come up with an honest answer..THINK hard why a reactionary like Imran is gaining popularity after 16 years..Now dont come up with this rationale that ISI is supporting him…ISI can not influence gallup an PEW research polls…

    Be Honest and indulge in some soul searching..

    MAY be BOTH the mainstream parties have made mistakes ( though I know you are in love with PPP only)..Just think….Media has been pro Imran for years….If ISI is supporting him, it can arrange logistics but can not force people to like him..If you think that the way history is being taught is the culprit then I ask you why AFTER 16 years the history suddenly mattered…

    Ask these questions…..learn to question your own party rather than blaming everything on ISI or “history teaching”….

    I know you wont like this and will perhaps call me a bastard in your heart or a reactonary…but these are the questions…you should be asking if you are sincere to PPP..

    Wth respect andd regards

    Raza

  21. Milestogo United States Safari iPhone says:

    When your neck is under an idiot’s sword, talking sense is stupidity. Governor salman tried that. Imran khan is not stupid. I have hope. Kissing ass now is fine as long as there is a chance that he will snatch the sword later.

  22. Milestogo United States Safari iPhone says:

    Imran could be elusive mustafa.

  23. RHR United States Internet Explorer Windows says:

    @milestogo and hiob..

    can you just refrain from commenting on this article…Now I know you are trolls and love to insult islam but this article is about someting totally different….

    Regards

  24. Humanity United States Mozilla Firefox Ubuntu Linux says:

    IK is riding the wave of elusive promises to the masses who are trapped in an endless tunnel. His hypocrisy is evident from his stand on the blasphemy law.

    See http://www.caravanmagazine.in/Story/1229/I-ll-Be-Your-Mirror.html#

    And this is what he said when I asked him about the so-called “blasphemy law”, whose abuses had been widely chronicled even before Punjab governor Salmaan Taseer was murdered for opposing it: “Blasphemy is the same thing. You see blasphemy, as I told you, was a British-made law, and it was to create harmony in the society.” Pakistan’s current law bears little resemblance to that intention, but Imran continued. “So what you’ve seen in Pakistan is a breakdown of rule of law. There is no law in Pakistan!”

    I pressed him, asking whether he really thought the problem was simply the way the laws were applied, rather than the laws themselves. “If you did not have a blasphemy law in Pakistan,” he said, “you will have bloodshed in villages and communities because when someone will say someone has said this about the Prophet, and then you will see fanatics going and killing people.” But that’s happening right now, I insisted. “No,” he countered. “What happens now is that they hand them over to the law. At least these people then have a law to protect them. You would have lynching crowds otherwise.”

    So, I asked him, would you say the law right now is fine?

    “No, the law—if it is implemented properly—it gives plenty of time for someone. Only a mad person can abuse the Prophet. Only a mad person can do it. And so they will get a reprieve by the court anyway.”

    “It’s implementation,” he continued. “It is a law that is open to abuse like every other law. So, in my opinion the law you need to pass is for perjury, false witnesses, because there is no law against that. A false witness can get away. So if you had a law against false witnesses, which is perjury, then you would immediately see these cases decreasing because people who wrongfully accuse would be going to jail.”

    Arguments like these demonstrate why Khan has become a target for many urban, secular liberals, even though he has sometimes—as was the case after Salmaan Taseer’s murder—demonstrated more willingness than ostensibly secular politicians to condemn religious extremism.

  25. Amjad Cheema United Kingdom Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ RHR Like you I am also a critical supporter of PPP as more or less that is based on secular & liberal values. ZAB also did use religion & was eventually hanged by those he was trying to appease. Second amendment of constitution was his crime against humanity. Anyhow he paid the price on 4th April 1979. Yes we do need a welfare society but not an islamic welfare society where every one else will be a second class citizen. Mixture of religion with politics breeds fascism.It then creates hatred & violence against rest of humanity.We do not need despots rule of seventh century. We need a society based on liberal & secular values as we live in 21st century.. Iqbal’s philosophy of pan islamism is thing of the past. Faiz matters more to the current situation.
    Look at the curriculum these children of Zia have been taught. That’s why I said that they been taught lies for the last 1400 years. PPP incompetency & inefficiency can not be used to promote ultra right which r u now up to. People with courage always make majority on their own. Asma Jehangir is the best example who has almost single handedly defeated these forces of deep state in two consecutive supreme court bar elections. Anyhow thanks for your comments about my earlier thoughts.

  26. RHR United States Safari Mac OS says:

    Amjad cheema…have u read the article I think u have just commented without bothering to read. I DO NOT SUPPORT IMRAN. In fact if you had bothered to read it I was severely critical of Imran for whipping Allama Iqbal style of Islam. READ IT. I have even printed in bold. HOWEVER my question was why suddenly Imran is getting popular. If history is the reason then the same version has been taught for the last so many years. Why he has suddenly become popular. ISI cannot force people to like Imran. May be your beloved party and ganjas of PML N have made some mistakes as well. Ofcourse neither your party nor ganjas are going to admit it. Both of them are right now blaming establishment and of course history

  27. rex minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    Amjad Cheema writes;mixture of religion with politics breeds fascism, it then creates hatered and violence against rest of humanity- we(pakistanis) do not need despots rule of seventh century. Iqbal’s philosophy of pan islamism is thing of the past.

    Pakistanis are not a nation without their common religion Islam! This was the basis for their country and remains more or less the only unifying factor for keeping Punjabis, Pashtuns, Baluchis,Sindhis and others all of whom speak different languages and live with different cultures and follow varied traditions.
    Ibrahimic religion scriptures teach one the love for the next one, respect for others and protection for the minorities and the have nots in the community. Not undefined liberal values per say, whatever they mean. All European constitutions are based on and reflect the values of the Ibrahimic religions, not liberal per say. What occured in history 1400 years ago was most probably the appropriate course at the time and what happened during the ww1 and ww2 is history and people of the world have taken note and are ensuring not to repeat the past massacres and fiascos. Appropriate laws are being introdoced to prevent it. Educational reforms have been undertaken. Death sentence has been abolished in Europe and human rights are held high in communities. This is not to say that the minority extremists from the right is not active any more.

    How come that Pakistan today in the 21st century is not able to rid themselves of the colonial past and their heritage after having lost the better half of the country since independence and have brought violence and instability within and on its borders. The answer definitely lies within the responsibility of the very mediacor political leadership which on and off have even encouraged the military to take on the political profession who were of the opinion that the military could not be worst than the incompetent politicians. The political entity which has brought forward Mr Zardari as the head of State and Mr Gillani as the executive has miserably failed, since the couple are neither able to handle or manage a crisis which has befallen the country since CIA raids into its territories culminating into a great show for the world to watch and witness the loss of sovereignty of a nuclear armed Nation, first in world history. What a shame for the Pakistani scientists who gave the country the most lethal arsenal of weaponry to protect its borders. Not a single political or military casualty after the event simply shows that the current Govt. has lost its legitamcy to stay in power. This is the price every democratic Govt must pay instantly and without delay . No sir, the gang is still holding on to the chairs and receiving salaries from the treasury.

    Imran Khan is simply a straw that people are being forced into simply to rid themselves from the current Govt. Do the people have the aternative? Certainly not from the Zardari and Gillani gang. The new is likely to control and give a new direction to the military and will have a hell of a job to get rid of colonial legislations. Imran Khan since his arrival has spent a lot of time with the farmers and the youth and is going to have a numberless advisors in all aspects of the Govt. because of having no experience in the Govt.

    Rex minor

    Nothing personal, just an observation and the birdsview from europe.

  28. rex minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    Amjad Cheema writes;mixture of religion with politics breeds fascism, it then creates hatered and violence against rest of humanity- we(pakistanis) do not need despots rule of seventh century. Iqbal’s philosophy of pan islamism is thing of the past.

    Pakistanis are not a nation without their common religion Islam! This was the basis for their country and remains more or less the only unifying factor for keeping Punjabis, Pashtuns, Baluchis,Sindhis and others all of whom speak different languages and live with different cultures and follow varied traditions.
    Ibrahimic religion scriptures teach one the love for the next one, respect for others and protection for the minorities and the have nots in the community. Not undefined liberal values per say, whatever they mean. All European constitutions are based on and reflect the values of the Ibrahimic religions, not liberal per say. What occured in history 1400 years ago was most probably the appropriate course at the time and what happened during the ww1 and ww2 is history and people of the world have taken note and are ensuring not to repeat the past massacres and fiascos. Appropriate laws are being introdoced to prevent it. Educational reforms have been undertaken. Death sentence has been abolished in Europe and human rights are held high in communities. This is not to say that the minority extremists from the right is not active any more.

    How come that Pakistan today in the 21st century is not able to rid themselves of the colonial past and their heritage after having lost the better half of the country since independence and have brought violence and instability within and on its borders. The answer definitely lies within the responsibility of the very mediacor political leadership which on and off have even encouraged the military to take on the political profession who were of the opinion that the military could not be worst than the incompetent politicians. The political entity which has brought forward Mr Zardari as the head of State and Mr Gillani as the executive has miserably failed, since the couple are neither able to handle or manage a crisis which has befallen the country since CIA raids into its territories culminating into a great show for the world to watch and witness the loss of sovereignty of a nuclear armed Nation, first in world history. What a shame for the Pakistani scientists who gave the country the most lethal arsenal of weaponry to protect its borders. Not a single resignation, neither political nor any military casualty after the event simply shows that the current Govt. has lost its legitamcy to stay in power. This is the price every democraticaly elected Govt is required to pay instantly and without delay . No sir, the gang is still holding on to the chairs and receiving salaries from the treasury.

    Imran Khan is simply a straw that people are being forced into simply to rid themselves from the current Govt. Do the people have the aternative? Certainly not from the Zardari and Gillani gang. The new leader is likely to control and give a new direction to the military and will have a hell of a job to get rid of colonial legislations. Imran Khan since his arrival has spent a lot of time with the farmers and the youth and is going to have a numberless advisors in all aspects of the Govt. because of having no experience in the Govt.

    Rex minor

    Nothing personal, just an observation and the birdseyeview from europe.

  29. Milestogo United States Safari iPhone says:

    Rhr

    I did not insult Islam. I just praised Imran. Please read my comment again. Please don’t tell me protesting against militants and Taliban is insult to Islam. I meant Imran is diplomatic which is good. Diplomats have better chance of winning against militant Islam then idealists.

    I know you fight against militant Islam. We are on the same side.

  30. Milestogo United States Safari iPhone says:

    Rhr

    Please watch Imran’s interview in Indian show devil’s advocate where he specifically avoids a controvorcial question by giving salman taseer’s example. As an Indian I have some hopes from Imran khan.

  31. Amjad Cheema United Kingdom Internet Explorer Windows says:

    @HRH Yes I tried to answer this question why there is a sudden change in political landscape there. AAZ & Sharifs have not much changed over last 6-12 months & their position remain much the same. Why this party of so called angels is bathing in donations of millions suddenly? Why? Why? now, you had an explanaition & I had an explanaition & I think we are entitled to have different opinions . Only time will tell who was right. We must shun the superior human being culture & stop using indescent languange. It was YLH on this website who used this language against me & I paid him back in the same currency. I otherwise have never indulged in such type of non sense.

  32. RHR United States Internet Explorer Windows says:

    @ Amjad cheema

    Where have I used “indecent” Language against you???

    Yes I have alleged that you did not read the article but is that indecent???

    Yes I have said that your party and gangas will never admit their mistakes. Is this in decent? have I abused you?

    Even then if you think that I have been indecent then I apologize

    Regards

    Raza

  33. hiob Germany Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    to RHR

    Amjad has complained about ylh’s language. Ylh does sometimes use indecent (angry) language in his rage to force-worship Jinnah.

    RHR never uses indecent language. Nor do I.

  34. Nazish Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    All the Ahmadies now a days turning to PTI on the instruction of
    “ESTEBLISHMENT”.The following Ahmadis (Mehmoods) are on the key positions
    of PTI
    Shah MEHMOOD Qureshi
    Vice Chairman Tehreek e Insaf Pakistan
    Shafqat MEHMOOD
    General seceratry Tehreek e Insaf Pakistan
    Khaursheed MEHMOOD Qureshi
    Tehreek e Insaf Pakistan
    Shahid MEHMOOD
    MPA , PML-N
    Joined Pakistan Tereek e Insaaf
    The following AHMEDI DPOs and DCOs have been posted in various
    districts of punjab for riging on the forth coming the elections
    Tahir Khurshid DCO Muzaffar Gar
    Rai Tahir Hussain DPO Faisalabad
    Ahmad Aziz Tarar DCO Chakwal
    Ahmed Mubarik Ahmed RPO Gujranwala
    Ahmed Javed Qazi DCO Rahim Yar Khan
    Azmat Mehmood DCO Sargodha
    Rashid Mehmood DCO Khaniwal
    Waqas Ali Mehmood DCO Sahiwal
    Mirza Mehmood Hussain DCO Jhelum
    Abrar Mirza DCO Sheikhupura
    Saqib Zafar DCO Rawalpindi
    Bashir Faruqui DCO Attock
    Rana Shahid Pervez DPO Gujrat
    Syed Pervez Shah DPO Bhakar
    Ghazi Amanullah DCO Rajan Pur
    Roshan Ali Seikh DCO Multan
    Zahid Akhtar Zaman DCO Vehari
    Dr Akhtar Abbas DPO Attock
    Babar Bakht Qureshi DPO Bahawal Pur
    Javed Iqbal Bukhari DCO Toba Tek Singh
    Ghulam Fareed DCO Lodhran
    Syed Ali Mohsin DPO Chakwal
    Shehzad Akbar DPO Chiniot
    Malik Tasaduq Hayat DPO Dera Ghazi Khan
    Irshad Uussain Shah CO Kasur
    Shahid Niaz DCO Jhang
    Amin Chaudhry DCO Mandi Bahauddin
    Syed Haider Iqbal DCO Pakpattan
    Asim Iqbal DCO Rahim Yar Khan
    Dr Naeem Rauf DCO Bahwal Nagar
    Muhammad Asif DCO Hafizabad
    Mujahid Sherdil DCO Sialkot
    Javed Iqbal Bukhari DCO Toba Tek Singh
    ( Mirza Nasir Ahmed, Mirza Tahir Ahmed Bashir uddin Mehmood, Sir
    Zafarullah Khan (The famous Ahmadi Scaller)
    The Favourate religious names of Ahmadis
    Mehmood, Saeed, Zafar, Tahir, Aziz, Nasir, Bashir, Mansoor, Eijaz,
    Mubashir, Luqman, Hameed,, Ghulam Ahmed, Hafeez, Pervez, Zaheer
    Shaukat, Munawar, Mubarak, Shafqat, Naseer, Akhtar, Majeed, Eitizaz
    Sikandar, Hayye, Anjum, Najam, Farooq, Usman, Basharat.
    Ahmed, ( But it should come first like;
    Ahmed Raza Qusuri, Ahmed Mukhtar, Ahmed
    Shuja, Ahmed Billal, Ahmed Farooq, Ahmed Saeed, etc )
    Ullah, ( But it should come in last like;
    Zafar ullah, Farhat ullah, Naseer ullah, Nabi ullah,Habib ullah etc )
    Mirza, Sahibzada ( Either come first or in last )
    Females: Amtul Aziz, Amtul Majeed, Nasira, Aziza, Mehmooda, etc;

  35. YLH Pakistan Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Where was no minority allowed to speak?

    Simon Samson Sharaf was the speaker who kicked off the Jalsa.

  36. imran mirza Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    O mirzaio……mirzay ki shakal dekho or tauba kero

  37. Salman Arshad Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ RHR:
    Imran Khan is no more popular than Afia Siddiqui. And I bet, if by some magical stroke, Afia Siddiqui comes back to Pakistan she’ll become more popular than Imran Khan. Imran Khan will then have to marry her to save himself. And I hope you can see how she is the utmost ideal wife he can have. She embodies all the reasons behind his popularity.

    I agree to every thing you said, but you probably missed the reason why Imran Khan is popular. It is because of the ISI’s hard work of the last 60 years, due to which the People of Pakistan can now be swayed along any direction the ISI wants. We are no longer human beings. We are now robots.
    The vast majority of the middle class that supports Imran Khan also supports Qadri, also believes in RAW and MOSSAD, also knows about the extreme ill-intentions of India and USA, and knows very well how drone attacks cause suicide bombings. And this has nothing to do with bad governance.

    If the People of Pakistan were reasonably sane, they would have PROTESTED against democratically elected leaders when did not deliver.
    And they will NOT protest against Imran Khan either if he does not deliver.
    Instead, the People of Pakistan either “appeal” to the President to help them “too”, and are generally in awe of the power the President holds, or imagine another “savior” who will replace the bad President and will listen to their “appeals”. Sometimes that savior is the COAS, sometimes the CJ, normally a feudal, and this time a cricketer who wedded a Jew.

    Independent people who KNOW about their rights, and who have a SELF RESPECT high enough that they protest when their rights are not fulfilled, have almost completely vanished.

    Yes the alternative powers have been extremely corrupt, and have not delivered in the LIMITED scope they have, which could possibly include nothing more than better roads, better food, water, and health. But even if these things could be delivered, we would have still be having suicide bombings. Because, the sectors of EDUCATION, Foreign Policy, Fiscal policy, and autonomy of power to provinces, are NOT in the scope of ANY elected government.
    And the People of Pakistan, DO NOT WANT any change in these important sectors. They only want better roads, better food, water and health.
    .
    And that is the ONLY change Imran Khan can promise and possibly deliver through minimizing corruption.

  38. peter Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    why do hindus claim that dildo originated from a shivlingham?and why do they worship cats,rats,dogs,pigs,elephants,snakes,monkeys?

  39. The Raaj 2 Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    peter wrote:

    why do hindus claim that dildo originated from a shivlingham?and why do they worship cats, rats, dogs, pigs, elephants, snakes, monkeys?

    Not only that, but we worship kangaroos and koalas and giraffes and zebras and gnus and ostriches and penguins, etc., all those creatures which are not even found in India! We worship all life, because all life has life energy, a spirit permeating it, which is in its substance, same as that of Paramatma, the Supreme “Spirit”, the embodiment of Brahman.

    If you don’t want to read about Hinduism, just watch Star Wars, much of its philosophy is a superficial variant of Hinduism.

    But then you may feel better just listening to your madrassa mullah!

  40. hiob Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    to peter

    1) The word Linga means “aspect” or “part of” also. Not necessarily phallus.
    Why do muslims claim that allah split the moon? Or kuran contains all modern physics?

    2) Hindus worship many things and life-forms. Obeying kuran has led to much fascism and backwardness among muslims. Worshipping cats, rats, dogs, pigs, elephants, snakes, monkeys etc. has not led to any fascism or backwardness among hindus. Hindus don’t take faith seriously like muslims do. Monotheism is a totalitarian ideology and leads to fascism.

  41. Prasad India Google Chrome Windows says:

    peter//why do hindus claim that dildo originated from a shivlingham?and why do they worship cats,rats,dogs,pigs,elephants,snakes,monkeys//

    who the fuck told you this pussy?? you have been mis-informed. Study atleast 1% of this tribe called Hindus before you even write any crap

  42. Haris Kamal Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Hello Raza Chachu!!!!

    How are you in THE BIG RED????

    From your writings I can only understand that everyone in Pakistan is a problem. All establishment, politicians(new), and non liberal are problems to this country.

    In my view your articles are mostly PMLN sided and you say most of the old politicians know what they are doing; if this is the case then why Pakistan is in a mess like this.

    I know you don’t believe in conspiracy theories.

  43. Ali Zafar Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    @Nazish

    This list of Ahmedi officers is false, my father is in the civil service and DCO Jhang Shahid Niaz, DCO Toba Javed Iqbal Bukhari are his best of friends, which you have mentioned in your list. I know both of the and we have family relations…none of the are ahmedi

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