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RELIGIOUS LAWS IN PAKISTAN
By Shahnaz Khan:
The purpose of this article is to highlight the impact of the religious laws in Pakistan as they are being currently interpreted and implemented without going into the finer nuances of either the law or the religion. These laws come into limelight from time to time for brief periods only when a famous person is involved or if there are political implications. Once the issue disappears from the front pages of the news media the whole thing is forgotten. But the fact is that these laws affect ordinary citizens on a daily basis. I want to make the point that these laws, implemented without using common sense or taking the present day realities and the changing nature and circumstances of the crime, have become vehicles for promoting injustice, threats to the peace and harmony of the society, tools for political expediency, and suppression of critical thinking.
On promoting injustice: Qisas and Diyat laws are a prime example of this, being used to the detriment of the weaker members of the society that is women and the poor. Let’s first take the issue of women. Honor killings, disfigurement and mutilation of women by cutting of their body parts or throwing acid on them because someone’s “honor” is threatened are common occurrences. Under the above mentioned law it is the “wali” of the victim who is authorized to negotiate the terms of punishment with the murderer. He (since it is almost always a male) has the right to forgive the murderer and accept monetary compensation. But the irony is that in most cases, wali himself (or those closely related to him) is the murderer, being the husband, the father or the brother etc. Now does it make sense to have the murderer dictate the terms of his punishment? It is like investing the powers of the judge, jury and the executioner in the same person who is also the offender, giving him the right to make all the decisions. Is that the spirit of the Islamic law?
In the case of disfigurement and mutilation, the victim herself (since most of the time it a woman) should have the right to negotiate and agree to the terms of punishment. Has there ever been a court decision where a woman was authorized to throw acid on the face of the offender or cut off his nose as a punishment? If this is not a mockery of justice, what else is?
In fact an even more sinister aspect of this whole situation is that men, family or tribe have been granted the right to impose their will on women in the name of honor. This is the basis of honor crimes. That is why killing of a woman is justified because, “she deserved it” because she broke the so called moral and ethical code of the society. This assumption, this mind set, this atrocious behavior in the name of tradition, culture and religion is a horrifying aspect of “our values and norms” that we never tire of flaunting and praising, because these values make us better than those ‘immoral’ westerners. Really? There is a need to challenge this. What is honor and who defines it? Why do women have to give up their decision making powers, happiness, dignity, and freedom to save the so called honor of men, family, tribe etc. etc.? It has become honorable to kill and maim women and dishonorable to respect them, their bodies and their humanity. If this is not a skewed logic, what else is? And if this is not denigration of women, what else is? And we never tire of telling the world how Islam has elevated the status of women and how she has been protected!
Now let’s see how this law affects the poor. If the victim is poor and the offender rich, he/she not only has the financial wherewithal but in Pakistan also has the added political, social and legal clout to coerce the victim’s wali into accepting the monetary compensation instead of paying with his/her life for the perpetrated crime. But what if the victim is rich and the offender is poor? Do I have to explain what will happen? Religion which claims to bring economic and legal justice is in fact failing the poor on both accounts. Can there be any more atrocious consequences of a law? Can there be a law that is more discriminatory against the poor? If this is not a distortion of justice to the utmost, what else is? And if all of the above is not promoting injustice, what else is?
On threat to peace and harmony: Whenever a law is passed in the name of religion, it becomes nearly impossible to change or modify it even if subsequently it becomes apparent that it is being misused, has become a contrivance for aggression and is actually causing harm to the society by disturbing peace and tranquility. This is evident from the blasphemy laws as applied in Pakistan, which are being used to harass the religious minorities, for personal revenge, or for political motives. Even when the accused is not convicted by the court, he or she faces a constant threat to his or her life. At times people feel free to punish the alleged offender without due course of the law. The person is presumed guilty unless proven innocent rather than the other way around. Even minor and unintentional actions are interpreted in the harshest way possible thus leaving very little room for justice to be carried out fairly and impartially. Unfortunately this, like all other religious issues, has become a political tool to be used to inflame people’s emotions (which are, regrettably, highly inflammable). It has come to the point where even an utterance of unintended phrase, any discussion about the problems surrounding this issue, or any mention of further probing this legitimacy and authenticity of the law can cost one his or her life. If this is not disturbing peace and tranquility of the society, what else is?
As James Baldwin, a black American novelist and play writer and a leading voice in the civil rights movement, said, “If one really wishes to know how the justice is administered in a country, one does not question the policemen, the lawyers, the judges, or the protected members of the middle class. One goes to the unprotected—those, precisely, who need the law’s protection most! —and listens to their testimony.” So, the flag bearers of the religion, the rulers and the politicians, go and listen to the women, the religious minorities, and the poor and find out if justice is being administered in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan!
On use for political expediency: Since religious laws are amenable to different interpretations, they have a tendency to become tools in the hands of dictators, other autocrats and selfish political motives. Wasn’t the Qisas and Diyat ordinance of 1990 signed by Gen Zia for political expediency? Didn’t various political entities i.e. the government, the religious parties, and the army use and justify the Qisas and Diyat law to their own advantage during Raymond Davis fiasco? Aren’t there enough historical examples and cases where religion was used to support the decisions of the ruler rather than guiding it? Why do we refuse to learn from them? There always have been and always will be scholars who are willing to comply with the demands of the authority. The alliance of religion with the power will drown any dissenting voice. It has been so in all religions and Islam is no different.
On suppression of free thought: The last point I would like to make is that the danger lies not only in the specific laws but also the fact that when the word religion is attached to any law, rule or issue it immediately becomes off limits to any further discussion or debate among the very people whose lives will be affected by it. The doors of reason are closed. Questioning is not allowed. Any debate becomes a prisoner to rigid and fixed parameters set by the self proclaimed scholars, many of whom have vested interests and people are forced to suspend their intellectual faculties. And gradually it becomes their second nature to accept whatever edicts they are asked to follow.
Plato said, “Justice in the life and conduct of the state is possible only as first it resides in the hearts and souls of the citizens.” But when the hearts and souls of citizens have given up the quest for justice because an intellectual decay has set in due to suppression of free thought, is there still hope?
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Here is a message from Allah for Pakistanis –
Write down on a piece of a paper, all the possible reasons, why your ancestors converted to Islam. Did they learn Arabic before converting – why not?
A real good article.
Thanks to PTH and Shahnaz!!!
This illness is especially rampant and unreformable/incurable in muslim countries.
Cure is: we should not be allowing a 7th century ideology to dictate over the 21st century. There simply is no way to make islam into a 21st century ideology. The finalism of islam is the root cause of its totalitarianism and fascism. A human beings who says or believes that the final truth and guidance were given in the 7th century in the arabic language is psychologically ill and makes many others ill.
@ Shahnaz Khan
Same old rhetoric, same old propaganda!!
”The founder of the Sri Ram Sene Pramod Muttalik, who always likes to remain in the center of the controversy, has claimed that the arrested youths in the case of hoisting Pakistani flag were not members of his outfit. He claims that Sene does not have any students’ wing in the state points that the arrested person belonged to the Sangh Parivar.
Irrespective of the fact, whether it’s Sri Ram Sene or Shiv Sena or Bajrang Dal, that are behind such acts, the fact remains that these outfits have been guilty of creating communal divide in the country.
The political protection given to such outfits has emboldened them to commit such heinous crimes time and again.
The irony is the blame is put on the poor Muslims and when it comes to profiling they most bear the burnt of being vilified. There are stereotype that’s being dished out, such as: all Muslims are not terrorists but all terrorist are Muslims!
The likes of Sri Ram Sena or Shiv Sena or Bajrang Dal have a national immunity in such profiling because they have the benefit of doubt and they get away under the garb of patriotism.
A Hindu can never be a terrorist is an often hared cliché in India. The statement is rationalized by giving some hackneyed explanations. Hindus are vegetarians, they worship several gods, they are more god fearing etc, and other such theories that has become banal now.
Those who call Muslims ‘Babar ki Aulad’ are in fact sham creatures. They do so because they have deep rooted animosity against the Muslim that has come through the systematic act of brain washing. The anger, jealousy and hatred prompt them to do some mischievous acts. They do so in order to create a communal wedge in the society to keep Muslims on the back-foot all the time.”
Hindutva’s Ugly Face Again Unmasked
By Syed Ali Mujtaba
11 January, 2012
The possibility that some Hindus may be behind the attempt to foist Pakistani flag is as horrifying as it is shameful. Nothing is more disgusting and more despicable than religious deception and religious fraud except the perpetration of religious deception and fraud accompanied with violence or intent to create violence.
If this story turns out to be true – and we have no reason to suspect its veracity – this won’t be the first case. Clearly, a segment of the Indian Hindu population based in Karnataka and perhaps parts of the north is going terribly wrong. What is going on? After all, kannadigas have traditionally been among the nicest and most tolerant people. Those of us who spend so much time offering advice to Pakistan may need to spend more time thinking about what may be afoot in India. In a way, it is odd that I am writing this on a Pakistani website
@ @ Shahnaz Khan
What do you make out of this:Religious Ban by Israel
Israel Moves Toward Religious Ban on Häagen-Dazs, Citing ‘Sages’
Gentile Milk the Issue
by Jason Ditz, January 10, 2012
According to a breaking story in tonight’s Jerusalem Post, Israel’s state rabbinical authority has Häagen-Dazs ice cream, a popular US-made premium brand, is not kosher and that stores which sell the ice cream in defiance of the ruling face the revocation of their religious licenses as officials “clean” stores.
Interestingly, Häagen-Dazs itself was founded by Polish-Jewish immigrants to the United States, who used the Danish-sounding name as a marketing tool because they believed Danes to be associated with dairy products.
But the company, now a subsidiary of General Mills, has run afoul of Israeli rabbis over its use of liquid milk instead of milk powder, since many of the dairy farmers producing the milk are not Jewish and don’t have rabbis hanging out on their farms all the time supervising them.
This is an issue, the official notice warns, because “sages” have issued a ban on the consumption of non-Jewish farmers’ milk unless it was supervised, fearing that “it may be adulterated with milk from a non-kosher animal.”
Of course, non-kosher animal milk is not commonly used in the United States in the first place, with the only example being the relatively uncommon sale of camel milk, a much more expensive alternative to cow’s milk. Still, the threat that such milk may get snuck into Häagen-Dazs ice cream for some inscrutable reason threatens the company’s ability to continue selling its product in Israel.
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/01/10/israel-moves-toward-religious-ban-on-haagen-dazs-citing-sages/
and this: “Love God more than ice-cream.”
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The bad news in Israel keeps piling up. Religious tensions, Iran’s nuclear program and regional instability are all worrying enough – but now Häagen-Dazs ice cream in Israel is under threat, and may become a rarity on supermarket shelves.
According to a recent kashrut update from the Chief Rabbinate, Häagen-Dazs is not approved by the State Rabbinical Authority, and stores and outlets with kashrut certification that continue to sell the ice cream could lose their kashrut license
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Milk produced by non-Jews without Jewish supervision was forbidden by the sages of the Talmud due to a concern that it may be adulterated with milk from a non-kosher animal.
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Milk produced by non-Jews without Jewish supervision was forbidden by the sages of the Talmud due to a concern that it may be adulterated with milk from a non-kosher animal.
Although arbiters of Jewish law, in particular Rabbi Moshe Feinstein (1895- 1986), have permitted the consumption of unsupervised milk if supervised milk is significantly more expensive or unavailable, it is seen as a less ideal, and the kashrut authorities in Israel do not permit kosher certificates to be issued for products using unsupervised milk.
Powdered milk from an unsupervised source is, however, permitted according to a ruling of Rabbi Tzvi Pesach Frank (1873–1960), a former chief rabbi of Jerusalem, who held that there is less of a suspicion that someone will go to the bother of adulterating powdered milk.
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“Abroad they have different considerations,” said Yochai. “There, the majority of milk is unsupervised so there’s less choice.
But here, we are living in Eretz Hakodesh [the Holy Land], the majority of the milk produced is supervised, so there’s less reason to permit these products,” he said.
“There’s enough choice here that we don’t need to rely on this leniency,” Yohai added.
Asked what Häagen-Dazs lovers should do instead, he replied, “Love God more than ice-cream.”
http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=253069
Aaaaaaaaaand This::Israeli FM Pushes Bill to Bar Arabs, Ultra Orthodox Jews From Parliament -Will you still blame your country’s laws?? Better take a broader look around while criticizing your own country or its laws and affairs.
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The latest in a long line of efforts at barring the nation’s Arab minority from public office came out of Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman’s party today, with a new bill that would bar anyone who wasn’t conscripted by the military from being in parliament.
In practice, this would oust the entire Israeli Arab community from parliament, as they are neither conscripted nor in large measure even allowed to serve in the military. It would also bar members of Israel’s Ultra Orthodox Jewish community from parliament, since they are likewise immune from conscription.
http://news.antiwar.com/2012/01/10/israeli-fm-pushes-bill-to-bar-arabs-ultra-orthodox-jews-from-parliament/
Allah says –
Trust no one, not any books, not any friends, not any relatives, not parents. Trust only me. You can find me within you. I am the goodness in your heart. I am the rationality in your head. Trust no one but me.
Milestogo
Good Lord! So, which country is worse to live in? Israel, where you can’t even eat the ice cream of your choice, or Pakistan, where if you are a woman, you can be so terribly, physically abused?
Seems to me that both of these laws, from both countries coe from the Old Testament! Hmmmmm! Same, same!
Lady Guinevere
I wish Sharia for Pakistan.
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@ Milestogo
Why should atheists love God when they don’t even believe in Him?? Why not believe in a scoundrel molvi from the Punjab who thinks he is more than god or any other religious and spiritual personality, something out of this world, and who wished to ”reform’ the whole world with his whimsical and absurd whims? Why not believe a slave of the British who begged for rewards for his services?? \Nothing like believing in slave frofet who conspired with his colonial lords to frustrate and fail the joint struggle of Hindus and Muslims against his lords for the Independence of a Greater India??? It was only due to such molvi thugs that Pakistan got created……why not ‘commend’ him on his treachery and ignoble ‘achievements’
Illustrated condition of a rotting country.
New-National-Symbols-of-I-N-D-I-A
http://forum.santabanta.com/showthread.htm?264614-New-National-Symbols-of-I-N-D-I-A
@Milesto go
Where are you getting your messages of God? I do not mean to be inquisitive, but how old are you? Are you older than the internet age of six for general reading and twenty one for religious subjects?
Rex Minor
Did you check where Muhammad was getting his messages?
Do not question Allah. The message it self itself is the proof.
If you doubt, you will rot in hell.
If you must know, I am getting messages from allah’s angel hubal.
@ Kaalchakra
You comment deeply appreciated…I agree with you viz ”Nothing is more disgusting and more despicable than religious deception and religious fraud except the perpetration of religious deception and fraud accompanied with violence or intent to create violence.”’
Actually it should read as ””Nothing is more disgusting and more despicable than religious deception and religious fraud MORE THAN ( words in caps are mine)) the perpetration of religious deception and fraud accompanied with violence or intent to create violence.”’
@ rex minor
Mirza Ghulla got his messages from god via wet dreams, hence died in the loo!
@ @ rex minor
You cannot question your employer, how can you dare to question God or his word unless you are out of your mind and ready for the trouble?
@
Why restrict your sweet wish to Pakistan only??”"I wish Sharia for Pakistan.”" \why not wish it for the world lest you are impotently unable to take 4 wives at a time or enjoy the company of 72 houris in heaven??
O mirzaiyoo….sharam nahi aati tum ko??rooz qadiani toilet propoganda post kertay ho…
http://hacklejackle.blogspot.com/
Book Review
‘Hindu Mansikta’ (Hindu Mentality)
Booklet: ‘Hindu Mansikta’ (Hindu Mentality)
Author: S.L. Sagar
Publication: Sagar Prakashan, Mainpuri
Edition: 2nd, 1994; Ist- 1992
Price: Rs. 30/-
Pages: 80
Hindu community is most petulant and arcane, manufacturing artificial issues to conceal real ones. They spurned the use of computers, advocated cow protection and ecological balance. Now it is the upper caste in large numbers using computers, owning ‘Dalda’ units that use cow fats, and owning land after felling trees. Their real patriotism is visible in the size of their population working in the foreign countries. Hindus, demolished Buddhist monasteries, but accused Muslims of destroying temples. Killing the upper caste Hindus, but not Dalits, constitutes terrorism. Dalits are looked upon scornfully for capturing the government jobs, but the upper castes are lauded for constructing temples on unauthorized land. When Dalits lost their occupation to the Indian capitalists, all were silent; but on Hindu Vaishya’s dislocation by the Multinationals, Swadeshi is advocated. Pay commissions and raising of the retirement age favour the upper castes. Dalits should come out of their exploited past, and take up arms for social equality. Non-violence is a weapon of cowards.
http://ff1.dalitresourcecentre.com/activities/%E2%80%98hindu-mansikta%E2%80%99-hindu-mentality/
Todays so called Hinduism is more Jaina & Boudha. In fact it is extreme boudhism which is nothing but yet another panth of Sanatan Dharma (Hindu) which became extreme in Ahimsa. The land which produced Shake Shalivahan who drove out barbaric Huns from Eurosia had to suffer killings of Hindukush because Kshatriya became heredetary caste and Kshatriyas started taking Sanyas to become Bhikshus of Boudha and Jaina (even Chandragupta Mourya became a Jaiina mon, but people forget that he first built empire…even Shivaj, the Great’s great granon took Sanyas at the age of 22)….Hope people start living Geeta all four Artha, Kama, Dharma & Moksha in right proportion and at right stage in life… even if yu take sanyas become Sanyasi like Swami Chinmayanand (born Kshatriya BA(hon) LLB) who creates an empire of Chinmaya Mission….Ammachi (born Kshudra 3rd grader) who builds medical, engineering colleges and centers all over the world… again dharma is in ascendance and with that India as a civilization and state.
Yur history is like what Baghdadi students will be mugging for their exams:
Rassol Bush’s compassionate truthful honest and humble Journail Bin Collin Kasim Powell invaded Baghdad to retrieve delicate wide eyed female goats which Raja Saddam Dahir Hussein stole in highway robbery in Kuwait. Hazarath Peer Dick ChenyUddin tried to make cruel Raja Saddam Dahir Husein understand mesage of peace of promphet rasol Bush (piss be upon his left ball) …..these days on 4th of July there is joolus on the Data CartarUddin’s Darbar in downtown Baghdad….subsidized haaj is conducted on 25th december on mount DupliCity….
No Boudhist wihar was destoyed by so called Hindus. Nalanda and Taxilas were destroyed by Muslim g0aaaa0d00us. Our Itihas what you call is history is in our DNA. Look at the criminal roaster in Burmingham, London… 5% Muslim converted utterly brutalized and uprooted muslims occupy 80% of the papers in those roasters. QED.
Allah says
” Hubal was guiding Newton and Einstein on my orders.”
what about shivlingham and shivdildo worshipping in india?
why do hindus in india worship rats,pigs,monkeys and elephants?
Barbarian Americans!
This is what civilized nations teach their men!
http://www.countercurrents.org/cd120112.htm
@ gaurav sethi
Hindu’s are animistic. They will take everything for granted:)
shame, shame, shame!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/jan/12/video-us-troops-urinating-taliban
India, an Evil Empire, Draws Attacks in Mumbai–MAKES DARK JUSTICE PREVAIL!
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DEMOCRACY AND SECULARISM ARE JUST SHAM! LAWS ARE LAWS, BREACHES ARE BREACHES AND NEEDN’T BE COMPLAINED ABOUT BUT CONTESTED.
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The terrorists attacking India are as evil in their chosen tactics as were Catholic terrorists in Ireland in 1920, Jewish terrorists in Palestine in 1948, or American terrorists in Oklahoma city in 1995.
But, as with those and most other terrorists, what drives the madmen who attacked India is a laundry list of wrongs and evils committed against those terrorists’ people. When there is such horror, and all reasonable ways of getting justice are exhausted, some small part of the victims will always turn to unreasonable ways.
Just as the British Empire committed many evils, earning it strife with Ireland, Palestine, and many others, so India (once fighting that very British Empire with terrorism) is an evil empire today, repressing and oppressing people within its own borders, plus occupying lands it illegitimately occupies, like Kashmir.
There are more Indian troops per capita in Kashmir, than any other occupation force on earth, including Communist China in Tibet, Israel in Palestine, Americans in Baghdad, or Russians in Chechnya
There are more Indian troops per capita in Kashmir, than any other occupation force on earth, including Communist China in Tibet, Israel in Palestine, Americans in Baghdad, or Russians in Chechnya
In 1947, India and Pakistan were being formed from the shambles of the British Empire. Each state of that region was supposed to choose which of the two countries to join.
When Kashmir’s ruler was slow to decide who to join, India attacked Kashmir, invading and occupying their land, robbing the 80% Muslim population from what was an almost inevitable decision to join Pakistan, or else declare independence.
When India persisted in occupying this region, preventing its union with Pakistan, the United Nations declared that it Kashmir should have an election, referred to as a “plebiscite”, in order to determine whether it joined India or Pakistan.
Since Kashmir is 80% Muslim, there was never any doubt which way the election would go…so “democratic” India has not, in the 60 years since, EVER allowed that election, continuing to illegitimately occupy Kashmir.
This was part of India’s very aggressive, violet habit at that time. For example, they also invaded and forcibly annexed the states of Junagadh and Hyderabad, one of which wanted to become Pakistani, the other wanting independence. India’s excuse was that both were majority Hindu…yet it ignores the fact that Kashmir is overwhelmingly Muslim.
People in Kashmir resist their country’s occupation, as any patriots should be expected to do.
When they do this against India’s troops, not only is it not “terrorism”, but it’s actually legal and legitimate, under international law, international humanitarian law, and Article 51 of the United Nations Charter. All people have a right to fight foreign occupation forces, not only a natural right, but even a legal one.
The repression and violence brought on by the extreme Indian military occupation, killing thousands of Kashmiri, ends up driving them to ever greater desperation. The Pakistani government takes advantage of this distress, funding militant movements because it wants the benefit of Kashmir as a territory, as illustrated by its opposition to Kashmir simply voting for its own independence.
Terrorism, in this situation, is almost inevitable. The war spills over from the Indian troops terrorizing the people of Kashmir, to Kashmiri terrorizing people in India. It’s not right, but it’s a natural result of the Indian government’s evil.
The same happened when Russia occupied Chechnya, the Soviets occupied Afghanistan…when you wrongfully occupy a people’s homeland, bringing them terror and suffering, eventually they bring it back to you.
http://butnowyouknow.net/2008/12/01/india-an-evil-empire-draws-attacks-in-mumbai/
” ,,,,,,,,, The study apparently classified the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the Mormons, as a non-Christian denomination. Conservative Christians frequently define Mormonism as a non-Christian cult — perhaps bordering on Christian Gnosticism — rather than as a Christian denomination. Barna Research apparently follows this practice.
American adults, whether Christian or non-Christian, apparently regard only Christianity and Judaism as having a positive influence on society. The remaining five religions are viewed by the average American as having a negative impact on society. These beliefs do not bode well for the future of religious tolerance and peace in the U.S. — particularly in view of the rapid increase in religious diversity in that country.”
Prejudice in the U.S. towards various
religions
”American adults, whether Christian or non-Christian, apparently regard only Christianity and Judaism as having a positive influence on society. The remaining five religions are viewed by the average American as having a negative impact on society.” should be a food for thought not only for the owners/admins of this site but also for all for reasons of incessantly flooding Mirzai propaganda over here and other blogs and sites. Evidently the negative impact these Mirzai ‘floodings’ are creating on society are alarming and do not augur any better outcome for the Mirzai’s themselves.
RELIGIOUS PREJUDICES
‘Different religions have different beliefs, practices, and leadership structure. In many regions of the world, religion is the defining characteristic of a people. People tend to elevate their religion as the one and only true belief system or faith. This absolute conviction of superiority over all other religions can be dangerous. When for whatever reason a people of one religion become adversaries with people of a different belief system, prejudice and discrimination (treating some differently than others or favoring one social group over another based on prejudices) always occur. Opponents are usually labeled as heathens or infidels, both meaning “unbelievers.” Severe conflict resulting in violence can occur. World history is full of holy wars that were fought in the name of one’s religion and God, all of which resulted in horrific death and destruction.’
”During the twentieth century, just as in every century of human history, religious prejudice, discrimination, and conflict were prevalent (widespread). Religious prejudice has led to discrimination, including oppression of religious practices, refusal to hire persons of the opposing religious beliefs, limiting educational opportunities of children, and banning social interaction between various religions. At its worst, religious prejudice has led to armed conflicts resulting in destruction of homes, religious sites, even entire villages, and the death of millions of people. Some long-standing conflicts explained in this chapter are: Islam’s Sunni Muslims versus Shiíte Muslims; Hindus, Muslims, and Sikhs of India; and Buddhist Tibetan suppression within the People’s Republic of China.’
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G2-2831400015.html
Hindus, Muslims, and Sikhs of India; Buddhist Tibetans–religious prejudices. (Mirzaism is not a religion but a cult as such insignificant to relate in above article)
Hubal says –
“Islam is a conspiracy against Arabs/persians by Europeans to confuse them and to prevent them from making scientific progress”
to milestogo
Anyone who wants to really help muslims must criticize islam uncompromisingly. That is what muslims cannot do it themselves and hence non-muslims HAVE to do it for them. The flatterer is never the true friend. Islam is the root cause of the troubles of the muslims and the troubles which they cause to the non-muslims.
I try everything. It’s for future of humanity. I wish I got paid for rescuing Muslims from Islamic matrix. I have seen people get their senses back but it takes a ton of effort on both sides. Most are damaged beyond repair though. Children are the key. Muslim parents need to break the cycle.
to milestogo
Mankind is a crazy species and needs to be destroyed and islam and muslims have been created for that purpose. It’s happening right in front of our eyes. Worst is yet to come.
Relax!!! God is a sadist-cynic – he wants it that way.
What can you do against his will?
Mankind will be replaced by zombies, who ask no questions but behave as happy slaves. That is what islam(=submission under a 7th century tribalist monogod concept) is for.
Mankind’s evolution towards free will and intelligence has proved to be wrong. God wants to correct this. He wants humans as zombies. He will however preserve a few intelligent honest humans since torturing zombies does not satisfy his sadism as much as torturing intelligent, honest, self-respecting, independent-minded humans.
You know Oscar Wilde’s story of the seeing man who falls into the valley of the blind? He talks about seeing things and describes these things to them and they declare him to be a devilish, sick, mentally disturbed person and try to kill him.
@ observ/Milestogo
Similarly it is said that a blind man fell into a valley of the blind and thought all there with were blind like him!! Shootia koi achhi misaal dee hotee!
Let us rewrite a new sequel to the Little Red Riding Hood story
@ observ/Milestogo
Similarly it is said that a blind man fell into a valley of the people with normal vision and thought all there with were blind like him!! Shootia koi achhi misaal dee hotee!
want more dose?? Don’t cry if you popped off like Micheal Jackson!
@ Milestogo
Muslims are doing ‘outsourcing’ nowadays. India is the cheapest source in the world for ‘outsourcing’. It even sells its raj kumaris to them for money!!
Status of females in India:
The status of women is typically discussed on a nation-wide basis. However, about 80% of the citizens of India are Hindu, 14% are Muslim and 6% are of other religions or no religion. Most of the negative behavior towards girls and women across the country can probably be safely attributed to the practices of Hindus.
Infanticide has been widespread in India for centuries. R.J. Rummel reported:
“In India, for example, because of Hindu beliefs and the rigid caste system, young girls were murdered as a matter of course. When demographic statistics were first collected in the nineteenth century, it was discovered that in “some villages, no girl babies were found at all; in a total of thirty others, there were 343 boys to 54 girls. … [I]n Bombay, the number of girls alive in 1834 was 603.” 4
A Reuters article in 2007-JUL reported on the high level in India of:
bullet Female feticide: This is the practice of using ultrasound instruments to determine the sex of a fetus, in order to abort fetuses that are found to be female.
bullet Infanticide: This involves the actual murder of a newborn female, typically because of her gender.
bullet Widespread neglect of girl children.
bullet Mob violence, including murders, victimizing women believed to be evil sorcerers. 5
The Gendercide web site reports:
“A study of Tamil Nadu by the Community Service Guild of Madras … found that ‘female infanticide is rampant’ in the state, though only among Hindu (rather than Moslem or Christian) families. ‘Of the 1,250 families covered by the study, 740 had only one girl child and 249 agreed directly that they had done away with the unwanted girl child. More than 213 of the families had more than one male child whereas half the respondents had only one daughter.” 4,6
“Most strikingly, according to UNICEF, ‘A report from Bombay in 1984 on abortions after prenatal sex determination stated that 7,999 out of 8,000 of the aborted fetuses were females. Sex determination has become a lucrative business’.” 4,7
Using ultrasound techniques to determine the sex of a fetus with the intent of aborting it if it is female is illegal in India. However, the law is widely ignored because local officials are reluctant to fight the will of the people. 8
Reuters reports that:
“Around 10 million girls have been killed by their parents over the last 20 years, the government says, as female infanticide and foeticide, although illegal, are still prevalent with boys preferred to girls as breadwinners.” 5
Data on infanticide is quite unreliable. However, if we assume that the 10 million deaths is an accurate estimate and that the cases involved 98% feticide and 2% infanticide, then the three most serious instances of genocide over the past two decades may have been:
bullet The Rwandan genocide of about 800,000 persons based on tribal identity, and
bullet The religiously-based genocide of about 200,000 in Bosnia Herzegovina, involving mainly Serbian Orthodox Christians targeting Muslims, and
bullet The murder of 200,000 newborn girls in India.
Reuters reports:
“Domestic violence and sexual abuse involving young girls is reported frequently in the country and a 2006 government survey found that 45 percent of girls were married before the legal marriageable age of 18.”
“India’s adult female literacy rate was 47.8%, compared to the adult male rate of 73.4 percent in 2004.”
“The sex ratio in the country is still one of the world’s lowest, with an average of 933 females recorded for every 1,000 males in the 2001 census.”
” ‘Education of girls even in big cities was dismal and census figures show that the population of the girl child was dropping,’ said Chakraverti, adding that tough laws and education of parents were needed to force change. ‘Most cannot complete primary education’.” 5
Ipsita Roy Chakraverti, mentioned above, is a Wiccan and social activist. She has been nominated by the government’s National Commission for Minority Educational Institutions (NCMEI) to head a panel given the task of improving the status of young girls. 5
For more information, we recommend that you Google India infanticide, or India feticide, or India status women
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