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American Muslims write to Secretary Clinton asking her to intervene to save Ambassador Husain Haqqani

January 12, 2012

The Secretary of State

The Honorable Hillary Rodham ClintonU.S.

Department of State2201 C Street, NWWashington, DC 20520

Dear Madame Secretary:

We American and Canadian Muslims have watched with increasing anxiety the situation of theformer Pakistani Ambassador to the U.S., Husain Haqqani. Motivated by our deep concern for thelife and safety of Ambassador Haqqani we write to you to ask you to speak on his behalf.Ambassador Haqqani is living under virtual house arrest in Pakistan. Pakistan’s security agencies confiscated his passport and the judiciary, under pressure from the military, has restricted him fromtravelling outside Pakistan.

Ambassador Haqqani’s travails began after it was alleged that he had initiated a letter to theChairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Mike Mullen, following the US military actioninside Pakistan in which Osama Bin Laden was killed. The letter reportedly asked for Americanintervention in Pakistan in order to forestall a military coup.Click here to read complete letter.

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252 Responses to "American Muslims write to Secretary Clinton asking her to intervene to save Ambassador Husain Haqqani"

  1. Milestogo United States Safari Mac OS says:

    Allah says

    ” send your daughters to hajj so that they can get Arabic genes”

  2. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ Milestogo

    ZAAT KEE KORRH KILLI SHEHTEERAAN NOO’N JAPHHAY!! This aptly applies to you and your Indian origins. Without Aryan genes Indian nation would have been worse than worms as they are!Keep sucking Shiv linghams and drinking cow urine…while we relish cow-meat and drink the nectar of grapes! You dirty folks!

  3. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ Milestogo

    Hajj is not like your most filthy mela thelaa’s or a stupid ritual like shiva lingham or screwing cows! You got to have ‘integrity’ to perform Hajj and no question of cow-sex there by anybody, incl your gene-donor forefather, the Arabs….not at all!

  4. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ Miles-togo

    O ye Indoos!
    Be grateful to us
    The British
    The Musla’s
    We, the Aryans
    taught you to behave
    Like Humans!
    We loved your women
    And took them to our harems
    Often behind our dak bungalows
    Often in our palaces
    Hey Indoos!
    We infused into you
    Our genes through your women
    And what you think today you are
    You owe your existence to US
    But all our toil seems to go waste
    As not many of you are still poor
    Poor of Intellect and Higher values
    Of Humanity…
    Why do you want us to return
    To Indoostan?
    If we did it will be the end
    Of your stupidity and ill-culture.

  5. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    India opens up its ‘PATH’ to the Loving Arabs!!

    The Pathway Finally Opened
    ………………………………….

    By Mahsati Ganjavi
    (12th Century)

    English version by David and Sabrineh Fideler

    When my heart came to rule
    in the world of love,
    it was freed
    from both belief
    and from disbelief.

    On this journey,
    I found the problem
    to be myself.

    When I went beyond myself,
    the ”pathway” finally opened.

  6. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    The Anglicized story of Seeta
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    !!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The Story of Seeta aka Rindercella

    Once upon a time, there was a beautiful girl called Rindercella. She had a sticked wepmother and three sugly isters, and they all lived together in a marge lansion.

    Rindercella’s sticked wepmother made her work very hard, frubbing sloors, emptying poss pits and shivelling shot. At the end of the day, she was knucking fackered.

    The three sugly isters were right bugly astards. In fact, they were really forrible huckers. One day they all got invitations from the prandsome hince to go to his Breat Gall, but the cotton runts would not let Rindercella go.

    Rindercella was sitting and crying in the scullery, when suddenly there was a bucking fang, and her gairy fodmother appeared. She was a light rucking fesbian!

    The gairy fodmother turned Rindercella’s rags into a geautiful bown and put a pair of slass gippers on her fare beet. Then she turned a pumpkin and six mite whice into a cuge hucking farriage for Rindercella, with six dandy ronkeys who had buge hollocks and dig bicks. But she warned Rindercella to be back by midnight, otherwise there would be a cucking falamity.

    At the Breat Gall the dandsome hince pranced with Rindercella all evening and she was ho sappy she lost track of the time. Suddenly the clock truck swelve. “Oh hucking fell!” cried Rindercella and she ran out, tripping barse over ollocks … and dropping her slass gipper in her hurry.

    The next day, the prandsome hince knocked on Rindercella’s door and the sugly isters let him in.

    He tried the slass glipper on all three sugly isters, without success. Their feet were enormous and they stucking funk!

    Suddenly, one of the sugly isters, whose name was Betty Swollocks let off a fig bart.

    “Who fust jarted?” asked the prandsome hince.

    Betty Swollocks was ducking fisgusted that the slass gipper didn’t hit fer and gave the prandsome hince a knack in the kickers. This was not difficult as he had fuge bucking halls and a hig bard on.

    The prandsome hince then tried the slass glipper on Rindercella … and it fitted her pucking ferfectly.

    Rindercella and the prandsome hince were married, and they hived lappily ever after.

    The prandsome hince lived in lucking fuxury, and Rindercella lived with a follen swanny.

  7. Milestogo United States Safari Mac OS says:

    Akb

    You are right.

  8. Milestogo United States Safari Mac OS says:

    AllAh says

    ‘Never let your enmity for anyone lead you into the sin of deviating from justice. Always be just: that is closest to being God-fearing.’

  9. Milestogo United States Safari Mac OS says:

    Allah says

    ‘Good and evil can never be equal. Repel (evil) with that which is better, and see how, then, someone between whom and you was enmity shall become a true friend. Yet none is given such goodness except those who are patient; none is give this but the most fortunate.’

  10. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ Milestogo

    Krishna says

    Keep your cows in good health as it is they whom you can hump unashamedly to fetch ‘sacred pleasure’ and ‘peace’ against cow-eating Muslims and Christians.

  11. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Hindus ate Cow meat!!

    Hinduism and Islam: ”A Comparative Study, however, says that the cow used to be slaughtered by the ancient Hindus for beef as well as sacrifice. “There are clear evidences in the Rig Veda, the most sacred Hindu scripture, that the cow used to be sacrificed by Hindus for religious purposes.” Gandhi in his Hindu Dharma writes about “a sentence in our Sanskrit text-book to the effect that Brahmins of old used to eat beef”.

  12. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    ‘In MP we are witnessing yet another pattern for marching towards the goal of Hindu Nation, the gradual and sustained intensification of anti minority policies in the name of promoting Hindu culture. This is unlike the phenomenon in Gujarat where communalization was intensified through violence. The paradox in MP is that all these practices showing intolerance to the sentiments and needs of minorities are done while blowing the trumpet that Hinduism is the most tolerant religion ”
    Ram Puniyani

  13. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    ”Although many Indians would disagree eating beef is part of the Indian culture. There are about 150 million Indians who are Muslims (many of whom eat beef). Muslims have been part of the Indian fabric for over 1100 years. Muslims are part of the Indian culture although some in Rajnath Singh’s party might disagree. Obviously there are millions of Indians of other faiths particularly from Kerala and West Bengal who eat beef.

    There is a myth that the invading Muslim rulers introduced Indians to eating beef. But it is clear from the Vedas and other ancient scriptures that Indians did eat beef thousands of years before Islam reached India. According to the Vedas Lord Indra ate bulls meat and Lord Agni ate bulls meat and also cow meat. Vedas also talk about 250 animals of which 50 are deemed fit for sacrifice and human consumption including the cow. The Charaka Samhita (ancient Indian Ayurvedic text) prescribes beef (and beef soup) as a medicine for curing diseases such as fever. For more on this subject please read “Holy Cow: Beef in Indian Dietary Traditions” by Professor Dwijendra Narayan Jha.

    The voice of the majority works differently in politics when compared to other issues like individual rights. In politics the majority rule but not so in other areas. The resolution passed by the MCD cannot override the individual rights of the citizens of Delhi or the Indian athletes who will be attending the Commonwealth Games. They may want to eat beef which is not illegal in India (only cow slaughtering is illegal in certain states).

    I always believed that the more religious you are the less you know about your religion. Organizations like the BJP, VHP and RSS act as if they are the guardians of the Hindu religion. But time and time again they have failed to educate the public on what Hinduism really is and its history. Even at their peak, BJP has failed to capture the imagination of a large number of people (particularly in the South and Northeast). Some of their policies, like their opposition to eating beef show that the BJP is nothing but a regional Hindu party from the “cow belt”. They do not have a national perspective.”–Hari

  14. observ European Union Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Why is AKB fixated on cow eating? No one objects to cows being eaten. As regards cow sex and cow urine – AKB sees only that part of the cow which is under her tail. He does not see any other part of the cow. Arab genes, aryan genes, drinking cow urine, filthy hindus, dirty indians – is that all what they teach the muslim children all about? Has he learnt all this in pakistani or indian muslim schools?

    Muslim educators (if there are any honest reasonable ones) should take note.

    There are 57 muslim majority nations and everywhere islam shows its failure, its backwardness, its violence and lies. India is the only hindu country – that too secular and anti-hindu in its constitution and laws.

  15. Raj TOO Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    AKB,

    All this cow eating and stuff is conjecture. In India cow slaughter is banned because Hindus are a majority and we can ban! Cow eating is not a fundamental right of some minority. They can live without it, so we are not trespassing on anybody’s fundamental rights either when the majority lets its will be heard!

    If somebody has got a problem with it! Tough Luck! They are weak!

    All else is conjecture. What is not conjecture is that Mohammad Ali Jinnah, Quaid e-Azam of Pakistan used to relish eating pork! How he loved it! That is why any country that he created would be full of Ajlaf Islamic Shoodras, who say they don’t eat pork, but in the privacy of their homes they do eat pork, especially the rich!

    And when they’re done eating pork they go and wank some in the Qu’ran wiping their filthy loolies with the holy book! Shiii-Shiiii!

  16. MilesToGo United States Opera Windows says:

    Krishna says

    “Kill all the unbelievers, wherever you find them”

    Allay says

    “Eat lions, love cows”

  17. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    ”-I have closely followed the invasion of your city by terrorist,terrorist with four legs,wild boars (Washington Post,12/28/11).Those with two legs ,in particular politicians,are one problem but far less difficult to eradicate than boars : boars have brains.-”’

  18. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ MilesToGo

    Muslims and Christians love cows…send them all over to us!!

    We leave lions in the shape of ”Shayraan wali” for you to bow and kiss his ass!

  19. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ Raj TOO

    You are a hypocrite above all!! On one hand you talk about democracy and fundamental rights on the other you support views of the BMirzai’s who have been unanimously adjudged as non-Muslim by all Muslims together yet allowed fundamental rights that are equally held by other minorities living in Pakistan.

    Cow may be ”sacred” for you but you cannot stop others from enjoying its meat for your own ”religious reasons’. That is utterly against the so-called secularism which the Mirzai’s and you folks so frivolously drum about. It means India is secular only in name..and since a tiny minority revolts against the majority’s decision, democracy too is just a sham!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    [[[[[[[In India cow slaughter is banned because Hindus are a majority and we can ban! Cow eating is not a fundamental right of some minority. They can live without it, so we are not trespassing on anybody’s fundamental rights either when the majority lets its will be heard]]]]]]

  20. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    The Dilemma of Cow Slaughter in India

    By Anshul Kumar Pandey

    21 January, 2012
    Countercurrents.org

    “Hindus commit no sin, if they cannot prevent cow slaughter at the hands of Muslims, and they do sin grievously when in order to save the cow, they quarrel with the Muslims.” -Mahatma Gandhi

    The Madhya Pradesh government’s recently passed ‘GauVadhPratishedh (Sanshodhan) Act 2012′ is a ridiculous piece of legislation and should be thoroughly criticized and debunked for its innate communal overtones. As a piece of legislation, it has set up new standards of intellectual and legislative bankruptcy of the political class of Madhya Pradesh and has exposed its obsession with injecting communal poison into the society.

    It is not for the first time that such an act has been passed in any state in India . Such poorly conceived but equally ridiculous rules and regulations prohibiting cow slaughter exist in other states too, such as Maharashtra , Orissa, Jharkhand etc. However, it is in the BJP ruled states that an attempt, to give communal policies a legislative facade, is being made. This exposes the larger conspiracy to turn these states into hotspots of communalism inside and under a secular country. Meanwhile, the so called secular parties of the country have chosen to act like mute spectators to this entire drama and have turned a blind eye to this whole issue.

    Commenting upon the preposterousness of such an act, JavedAnand, co-editor of the online magazine ‘Communalism Combat’ , opined:

    “Under its new law, a humble head constable upwards, “any person authorized by a competent authority” has the power to enter, inspect and search any premises “where he has a reason to believe that an offence has been, is being or is likely to be committed and take necessary action.”

    “In a state where as often as not the police functions as the private militia of the Saffron Brotherhood, who is to determine, and on what basis, whether a chunk of meat stored in the fridge or simmering on the burner comes from a Buffalo (not prohibited) or from a cow or its progeny?” (1)

    It is clear from the ambiguous and vague wording of this new act that this piece of legislation is not specifically designed and enacted to curb cow slaughter, but is a tool to harass the minority community, particularly the Muslims, and establish Hindu supremacy in the state. It is ironic that for the devotees of a religion that has long held the tradition of ‘bali’ (sacrifice of any animal, even a cow) at the altar of a deity to please it, cow slaughter by members of a different religious community should whip up such public outcry. This not only shows the double standards of those advocating a ban against cow slaughter, but also shows the sheer illogical will in a failure to recognize that beef forms an important part in the food chain of the nature and that constitutionally too, slaughter of a cow cannot be prohibited even under section 256 of the IPC.

    HISTORICAL ROOTS OF COW PROTECTIONSIM

    For such a ridiculous piece of legislation could have entered the hallowed halls of a state legislature and come out unscathed in the form of a law, points to a strong historical precedent on the whole issue. Indeed, historically, the cow has been upheld as a holy animal and has been worshipped by eminent national leaders from Swami DayanandSaraswati to Mahatma Gandhi. Apparently, the firebrand Maharatta nationalist and orator, BalGangadharTilak, got so perturbed by the issue that he bellowed in exasperation to a bewildered crowd “Kill me but spare the cow!”

    In his magnum opus on ancient India , “The Wonder That Was India ” , the celebrated Indologist, Mr. A.L.Basham, while commenting upon the Political life and thought of the state writes:

    “In later times, the lives of many animals were protected by law, especially, that of the cow. The story of the Chola king who ordered the execution of his own son for the accidental killing of the calf is certainly a legend, and we need not believe that Kumarapala (c. 1143-1172), the Jaina king of the Caulukya dynasty of Gujarat, so strictly enforced non violence that heavy fines were inflicted on people who killed fleas, but these stories show the climate of opinion in medieval India. In the later period, the wanton killing of a cow was among the most serious of crimes.” (2)

    However, raising some ambiguity over the contention that it was strictly forbidden to slaughter cows in ancient India , Mr. Basham writes:

    “The inviobility of the cow was of slow growth. Though, there seems to have been some feeling against the killing of cows even in Vedic times. Ashoka did not forbid the slaughter of cattle, and oxen, at any rate, was killed for food even later. But the ARTHASHASTRA refers to the existence of herds of aged, diseased and sterile cattle and it therefore appears that even before the Christian era they were normally allowed to die a natural death at least in some parts of the country. The same work suggests that those who kill cattle should be put to death but from the context it is clear that this prescription applies only to killers of beasts stolen from the royal herds.” (3)

    In modern India , cow slaughter as a political issue first propped up in the early 1880s in the Punjab , where the members of the Kuki tribe tried to extract political dividends by flaring up communal tension in the area. However, violence soon broke out and the British authorities intervened to restore law and order and peace was again established. But cow slaughter as a strong political issue had marked its debut.

    Swami DayanandSaraswati, who, through his AryaSamaj, sought to eradicate the ills of Hinduism by abolishing child marriage, idol worship, polytheism etc., threw his weight behind the cow protection movement by establishing various cow protection committees in various parts of the country which whipped up communal tension between the rival communities and finally culminated in the communal riots of 1893 which started from Mau in Azamgarh, but soon spread over various parts of the country.

    Delving further into the politics of Cow Protectionism, Sekharbandopadhyay, professor at Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand, in his book “From Plassey to Partition: A History of Modern India” writes:

    “Extremist politics and Hindu revivalism – the impact of cow killing riots in North India , for example – by reinforcing the social fault lines further facilitated Muslim mobilization. The Hindu bhadralok in Bengal often looked down upon the Muslims with contempt. The Hindu ‘jatras’ or rural theatrical performances often indulged in vilification of Muslim historical persona, which was not very lightly taken by the anjumans or the mullahs. The cumulative effect of all these factors was the accumulation of social tension which ultimately culminated in Communal Violence.” (4)

    For a Muslim, beef presented a cheap source of nutrition and diet, cheaper than say, goat meat. However, with the growing objections of the Hindu majority, beef not only became a symbolic gesture of asserting independence, but it also took the form of an icon of Muslim cultural identity. It was a tool of rebellion against the oppression perpetrated by the Hindu majority and in it the Muslim community began to see their method of asserting their rights and religious practices.

    Throughout the playing out of this communal propaganda, the reaction of the so called secular parties, most importantly The Congress provided an insight into the religious sentimentality associated with the issue of cow slaughter. According to Mr. Bandopadhyay:

    “…in its 1888 session, Congress passed a rule that no resolution would be accepted if an overwhelming majority of Hindu or Muslim delegates objected to it….But these symbolic gestures did not remove the apprehension of the Muslims, while the crucial silence of the Congress during the cow killing riots of 1893 added further to such misgivings. Congress was not directly involved in the Cow protection movement, nor did it sympathize with this cause; but by speaking against it, they felt, they might lose the support of the Hindu constituency. Its silence was misinterpreted – for legitimate reasons – as concurrence; and as John McLane has shown, Muslim participation in Congress sessions began to decline rather dramatically after 1893. Yet there was no major congress endeavor to bring the Muslims back into its fold.” (5)

    These words would have still rung true had Mr. Bandopadhyay would have been writing about the present policies of secular parties like the Congress in the context of cow slaughter even today. One may even go as far as to add, that the secular parties of the country bear as much responsibility for the communalization of Indian polity as much as the communal forces, because of their inability to properly demonstrate to the Indian public, the dangers of Communalization, right from their very origin.

    COMBATING THE COMMUNAL SCOURGE

    One can then conclusively argue that the recently passed Madhya Pradesh bill banning cow slaughter is not an isolated act of communal bias, but is a small part in the larger scheme of things to divide the polity of this country on the basis of religion.

    The propensity of the hyper religious audience is such that the reason and rationality of a particular argument finds itself in a cul-de-sac surrounded by angry chants of tradition and culture. No debate should take place. Dissent should be quelled. Every logic should be scuttled in the name of faith and belief. Anyone who tries to differ and argue is branded as a heretic and his/her actions are labeled as sacrilegious. An attempt, then, is made to steer the whole discourse into a majority vs. minority issue and to exclude the many in the name of the most. Such reasoning is already expected as this logically crippled and adrenaline pumped audience proceeds to prepare a lethal cocktail of the nationalistic, the religious and the majoritarian. Even nationalism comes to be defined to mean majoritarianism and the domain of ‘we’ is then split into ‘us’ and ‘they’. Religion is then used more as an instrument of hatred and propaganda, rather than a positive force of tolerance and compassion. Faith vanishes and the only purpose of religion remains to act like a torchbearer of majoritarian identity in order to gain a share in the spoils collected through vitiating the political spectrum. This is the religious right’s ideal nation. This is their dream come true.

    But while this may be a dream for a considerably large proportion of the country, it can only be humbly described as a terrible nightmare which would serve as a precursor to doom for secular bhadralok scattered throughout the country. The need of the moment is to rise up to the occasion and make the people of the country aware about such perfidious legislation being passed by the ultra-religious forces and to combat the scourge of communalism. The time is over when we could have chucked such laws out of the window labeling them as acts of insanity. Aggressive secularism is the way forward.

    NOTES
    (1) JavedAnand, “Using the Cow”, Indian Express, January 5, 2012
    (2) A.L.Basham, The State: Political Life and Thought in “The Wonder that was India ”, Picador India , pp. 120
    (3) A.L.Basham, Op.Cit. pp.196
    (4) SekharBandopadhyay, Early Nationalism in “From Plassey to Partition: A History of Modern India ”, Orient Blackswan, pp.269
    (5) SekharBandopadhyay, Op.Cit. pp.234

    Anshul Kumar Pandey is a student of Zakir Husain Delhi College pursuing his bachelors in Political Science from University of Delhi. He can be contacted at anshulkumarpandey@gmail.com .

  21. MilesToGo United States Opera Windows says:

    Allah says

    “Love cows as you love me”

  22. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    “Hindus commit no sin, if they cannot prevent cow slaughter at the hands of Muslims, and they do sin grievously when in order to save the cow, they quarrel with the Muslims.” -Mahatma Gandhi

  23. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ OP

    Why don’t the so-called American Muslims ( i doubt if they are even Muslims at all!) shout over these preposterous laws in India??

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    “Under its new law, a humble head constable upwards, “any person authorized by a competent authority” has the power to enter, inspect and search any premises “where he has a reason to believe that an offence has been, is being or is likely to be committed and take necessary action.”

    “In a state where as often as not the police functions as the private militia of the Saffron Brotherhood, who is to determine, and on what basis, whether a chunk of meat stored in the fridge or simmering on the burner comes from a Buffalo (not prohibited) or from a cow or its progeny?” (1)

    It is clear from the ambiguous and vague wording of this new act that this piece of legislation is not specifically designed and enacted to curb cow slaughter, but is a tool to harass the minority community, particularly the Muslims, and establish Hindu supremacy in the state. It is ironic that for the devotees of a religion that has long held the tradition of ‘bali’ (sacrifice of any animal, even a cow) at the altar of a deity to please it, cow slaughter by members of a different religious community should whip up such public outcry. This not only shows the double standards of those advocating a ban against cow slaughter, but also shows the sheer illogical will in a failure to recognize that beef forms an important part in the food chain of the nature and that constitutionally too, slaughter of a cow cannot be prohibited even under section 256 of the IPC.
    Anshul Kumar Pandey

  24. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    MilesToGo
    [[[[Allah says

    “Love cows as you love me”]]]

    but Krishna/shive says having intercourse with them is fun!!

  25. MilesToGo United States Opera Windows says:

    Krishna says

    “Kill unbelievers, wherever you find them”

  26. Husain HAQQANI is a crook, and so is his wife. They are playing games and have committed Sedition. The MNemogate Commission must order that they take polygraph/Lie Detectkion tests per Artic;le 164of the Law of Evidence.

    Haqqani refuses to give information re his other two Blackberrys. What is he trying to hide?

    And Mr Zahid Bukhari, Haqqani’s lawyer, is marrowing hyperbole and stupid barrakhs on tv. Reputedly he pocketed fees of over $100000.00 re Herr Raymond Davis Scam .. that was illegally disposed off. One wonders if he has paid proper incometaxes.
    The Courts as well as The Memogate Com mission can order lie detection tests under Constl. Articles 2A through 8 and Article 164 of QANOONE SHaHADAAT. It will separate the waterwatery from the Frico Milk AND Will make falsehoods of Haqqani/Bukhari go panni-panni.

    ((GOD SAVE PAKISTAN which is being burried under “Mittip-AO-ing”))

  27. Raj TOO Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    AKB wrote:

    Cow may be ”sacred” for you but you cannot stop others from enjoying its meat for your own ”religious reasons’.

    If in Qu’ran, it were written that all Muslims must eat beef, then yes, Hindus would be violating the fundamental rights to Muslims. But that is not the case.

    Ahmadiyyas believe in Shahada and in the 5 Pillars of Islam. That is all that is required for somebody to be a Muslim. So no state can take that away from them.

    Beyond that it is a question of sectarian interpretations or a question being a good or bad Muslim.

    Sectarian interpretations are allowed. For the question of Good or Bad Muslim, there are the laws of the land or the Shariah!

    Pakistan has overstepped the law of Allah by declaring Ahmadiyyas as non-Muslims. You Pakis are all Kafirs and Murtads, and Allah will ensure that you burn in Hell fire for the rest of eternity.

  28. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ Raj TOO

    Come on now don’t talk like a bloody religious bigot! You talk from both sides of your mouth: on the one hand you emphasize democracy and secularism but on the other you rest your argument on Allah. That is what you call hypocrisy. Every Muslim believes in the Kalima’s but no one except these ”super clever” Mirjai’s ventured to challenge the status of Jesus and the finality of Prophet Muhammad. By consensus of all Muslim sects they are declared as non-Muslims and there is NO reason for them to dispute the majority decision. As non-Muslims they are enjoying all the benefits as Muslims withing the Constitutional parameters. It’s not only that Pakistan has declared the Mirjai’s as non-muslims but ALL the Muslims of the world unanimously. They should therefore stop being over-ambitious to get into the ranks of Muslim as by majority vote they are Kafirs and Murted and according to some ”WAJIBUL QATL” ..If they do not agree with me or you challenge my statement then come to Jeddah and try out your pukings which you innuendo take the extra-liberty of whining about so freely in Pakistan!

    The Quran specifically commands Muslims about what to eat and what not. Cow or beef is allowed.

  29. observ European Union Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    to AKB

    Do eat one cow everyday. I have nothing against that. What you will most relish is ofcourse eating what is under her tail. Your language and your fixations reveal that. Go ahead and do it.

  30. Raj TOO Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    AKB wrote:

    By consensus of all Muslim sects they are declared as non-Muslims and there is NO reason for them to dispute the majority decision.

    What Allah and Muhammad has given them, the right to call themselves Muslim, the others cannot take it away from them, be it even with a majority vote of the Ummah, or consensus by all sects!

    Only Shahada and faith in the 5 Pillars of Islam are essential to call oneself Muslim. That is ALL.

    You have violated the Law of Allah and become Murtads. For your sacrilege you will all burn in Hell fire. Don’t forget to take a bottle of camel urine with you to quench your thirst there.

    The Quran specifically commands Muslims about what to eat and what not. Cow or beef is allowed.

    Allah allows it but does not mandate it! There is a difference. Hence a democratic majority can forbid it! :twisted:

  31. rex minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    Mr Haqqani is a Pakistani citizen and let Pakistani courts decide his fate, Mr Syed Jaffery already finds him guilty. American musims should be reassured that Pakistan practices rule of law and do not have any unlawful Gitmo like prisons, nor does Pakistan military hold military trials. Mr Haqqani is definitely not a cow but a genuine suspect for having been involved in illegal plot.

    Rex Minor

  32. Raj TOO Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    Let’s also not forget that Mansoor Ijaz, who will be testifying against Hussain Haqqani is a highly respected member of the American Ahmadiyya community. :lol:

    Besides for other exploits of Mansoor Ijaz visit Youtube or Dailymotion. Dailymotion ID = x1q23h_stupid-disco-uncensored-junior-jack_music

  33. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ observ

    [[[What you will most relish is ofcourse eating what is under her tail. Your language and your fixations reveal that]]]

    Just looks at your own language..you have not only insulted cows but also
    acted towards Hindu’s with utmost impropriety and vulgarity that reflects upon your character!
    You are nothing but a troll, a tramp who has nothing to say and no other place to go to!

  34. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ rex minor

    1. HH is given quarter in the president house and now in the prime Minister house. Why??

    2 . Why doesn’t HH produce his blackberry or authorize Blackberry to divulge the contents of his exchanges?

    3. In a country where the life of a politician like Benazir and many was never safe, where guys like Altaf Hussain and Musharaf won’t travel due to security risk, why then Manxoor Ejaz should rely on the bleak words of the present regime for his security and not ask security from the army??

    HH is definitely a liar…a crook as evident from his conduct..and he is avoiding to face the trial and cannot have the courage to look into the face of Manzsoor Ejaz..

  35. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ Raj TOO

    [[[Let’s also not forget that Mansoor Ijaz, who will be testifying against Hussain Haqqani is a highly respected member of the American Ahmadiyya community.]]]]

    Every pig that grunts at his master is owned by the Mirjai’s/

  36. rex minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    Therefore the guy has decided not to appear in a Pakistani court on security reason. Who knows, some member of the majority brigade might pounce on him if he was to appear personaly in the holy land of Pakistan. Outcastes are outcastes in Pakistan!

    Rex Minor

  37. observ Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    to AKB

    I only showed you the effect of your own choice of language and style and perversions. So now you are getting back what you tried to throw at others.

  38. Raj TOO Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    BTW, why is Hussain Haqqani’s wife Farhanaz Ispahani a Member of National Assembly as well as President Asif Ali Zardari’s spokeswoman when she is a US citizen?

  39. Sikander Canada Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Zuhdi Jasser, a signatory and “supporter” of Haqqani, features in Anti-Muslim video made by right-wing evangelical neocon organization:
    NYPD Training Included Viewing Of Anti-Muslim Movie ‘The Third Jihad’
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/24/nypd-training-included-video-the-third-jihad_n_1227889.html?ref=religion&ir=Religion

  40. observ Germany Internet Explorer Windows says:

    to Sikander

    It has become necessary to expose this totalitarian and fascist religion from Arabia. The followers of this religion are either cowards or naive or stupid or sly rogues and violence-glorifiers. All human beings have to be warned about this religion. In societies where this religion is the power-wielder we see the most horrible crimes being committed against minorities and women. Freedom of expression and criticism of this religion is totally suppressed and everyone is forced or manipulated to sing the glories of this fascism and arabic imperialism.

    Evil camouflaged under a coating of a few good words and deeds is more dangerous than evil that does not camouflage itself or is not camouflaged. Mankind needs to be warned. The followers of this religion from 7th century Arabia are experts in deceit and victims of self-deceit and many human beings have been fooled and misused by them. The worse is yet to come.

  41. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ observ

    What can a tramp like you have to ”throw’ at others?? Beg my mercy, I am god!!

  42. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ Raj TOO

    [[[Farhanaz Ispahani]]]
    because she is of Indian descent and your mausi, understand?

  43. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ observ

    this fascist religion came into existence, is alive and kicking to fix up self-loathing, hate-mongering people like you!

  44. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    @ rex minor

    [[[Outcastes are outcastes in Pakistan! ]]] and you are definitely one of them for your mindset and views!

  45. Raj TOO Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    AKB wrote:

    because she is of Indian descent and your mausi, understand?

    When you joined your madrassa, did you take some vow, that everything you say would be a lie, and nothing but a lie?

    Lies are better when mixed with some truth, but you, you want to serve lies undiluted. You like your lies Pure and Pak. :lol:

    97.5% of Pakis are of 100% Indian descent. Even you AKB, you are of Indian descent! You were once a Hindu, and now due to inbreeding and cousin-marriage, a big plunge in IQ, you have reached the status of a Ahlaf Islamic Shoodra.

    Farhanaz Aspahani was born to Pakistani parents in Karachi.

  46. observ Germany Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    to AKB

    Calling me a tramp does not help human beings in Pakistan misled, misused and suffering under the arabic religion.

    That should be clear to you.

  47. rex minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    I agree with Raj! Two third of What Pakistani muslims practice has no relevance with Islam. They are based on traditions, customs and the culture heritage. Let Pakistan muslims demontrate that by accepting the Islamic way of life instead of worshipping Idol Gods, they have become a better human, possess better morals and practice justice and solidarity with other humans. AKB is certainly not the kind to represent Pakistan majority community. Deeds and not bla bla are and should be the goals of the believer. Let Pakistan Minister of Culture undertake special projects, establish Pakistan cities friendship with Indian cities and improve relations with its neighbours.

    Rex Minor

  48. observ Germany Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    to rex

    Any kind of islam, with or wthout non-arab traditions, will bring ruin. There is something terribly and unreformably defective and evil in islam itself. The kuran is not book from a god – it is just of human making. But the muslim has to be dishonest and keep glorifying it.

  49. rex minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    @Observ
    The word you use are no different than those used by infidels centuries ago. These people were burnt alive in public places; today we send them to a Psychiatric clinics.

    Rex Minor

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