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What an ugly alien script. This script itself is an instrument of arab hegemony and inmperialism. One who uses this script ends up becoming a slave and mental prisoner of arab supremacy. To call this script divine is an insult to any god – whatever his intellectual level.
@Ahem/Hiob/Observer/Raison
You have lost it – totally! Your solution is with a well qualified psychiatrist so plz arrange for an appiontmet!
ahem,
not everybody can have a scientific Brahmi-based script. It is not ugly, just inferior.
to syed
If you ask someone to see a psychiatrist, it implies that you have lost the argument.
Just as patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel – so too this “advice” to see a psychiatrist.
Who is a “well-qualified” psychiatrist? You have any criteria? Let us know what your criteria are.
The problem with you mental slaves of islam is your inability to be honest or to face honest analyses or even honest remarks.
I won’t advise you to see a psychiatrist. I would just ask you to look at yourself in a mirror closely and talk with yourself honestly about honesty. And don’t just confine yourself to reading islamic propaganda but also read what is written by those who expose islam’s fascism, primitivism and arrogance.
to raj
Where does the brahmi script come from, how old is it really, which script did they in the north-indian subcontinent use before that? why is there not found any bi-lingual tablet between Sindhu valley script and brahmi script? The kharoshti (=donkey’s lip?) script, written right to left, it is said, originates from the middle east.
@ ahem (May 8, 2012 at 8:01 pm)
//…If you ask someone to see a psychiatrist, it implies that you have lost the argument…//
It can also imply that out of shear compassion, you are genuinely concerned about the rapidly deteriorating mental health of that someone.
Salaam Ahem:
The Arabic script is ugly you say! perhaps. Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder., they say. Anyway The script reaaly looks like barbed wire!
Anyway, Arabic language with all its literature indeed has been one of the great world languages. In 16th century There was even a Chair specially dedicated for the study of Arabic literature in Cambridge.
Wa Shalom
Kamath
Arab, persian, Urdu, Gurjrati scripts are among the most elegant and best scripts. Hindi is terribly obnoxious,,,,a variant of gujrati with overbearing lines and strokes….like a decaying shiv lingham in a hospice!!
@ Ahem
//..I won’t advise you to see a psychiatrist. I would just ask you to look at yourself in a mirror closely and talk with yourself honestly about honesty. And don’t just confine yourself to reading islamic propaganda but also read what is written by those who expose islam’s fascism, primitivism and arrogance..//
Yes, but if I had used the term “quisling” in almost every single comment of mine, you would certainly have asked me to see a psychiatrist. By the way, I happen to have read Islamic, non-Islamic as well as anti-Islamic books. I have to admit that, if anything, I have found the anti-Islamic writings replete with fascism, primitivism and arrogance.
Guys this is about the artical and not the script it was written in.Those who cant read urdu better not comment instead of making it a debate on my script is better than yours.Btw the subject is timely and worth a discussion.
to sta (and achakzai and syed)
You wrote:
“It can also imply that out of shear compassion, you are genuinely concerned about the rapidly deteriorating mental health of that someone.”
What kind of a compassion comes from muslims? Have you not seen the blood-flow in islam-dominated areas? Or women being beaten up because they wanted to breathe some fresh air or go to schools.
If you have to make advertisment for a god’s compassion by shouting that he is compassionate then he is not really compassionate. Real compassion needs no advertisement or missionary activity. It is typical islamic double-speak. Say one thing and mean the opposite.
Islam has taught muslims to be arrogant-intolerant towards non-muslims and vilify and humiliate them – how can a muslim ever be comapssionate to a non-muslim? Can you not differentiate between real and fake compassion?
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to achakzai
You should have supplied a summary of the content of your article in english on an english website like the PTH. Only then can a discussion, as wished by you, take place.
The arabic script is ugly because of the fascist-religious, irrational, arab imperialist message and discourse which dominates in it and has the arab world in grip. Ugliness is not about shapes or colors. It is about the message and the result.
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to syed
The fascism in some anti-islamic books and articles is a reaction to the aggressive, expanding, finalist fascism in islam. This anti-islamic fascism is found in non-muslim lands – and not in Arabia or Makkah. Whereas islamic fascism is to be found also in lands where muslims are minorities or new immigrants.
@ ahem
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It is height of folly to attribute fascism and extremism to Islam which is no less a peaceful religion than any other. The problem with countries dominated by Muslims is not Islam but lack of rule of law. Ever occurred to you how many pay income tax in Muslim countries?? With bad rule of law, lack of justice and poor economy (or over-rich economy) the people tend to take law into their hands and here is where the trouble starts. In comparison, non-Muslim countries do not have these problems to a conspicuous level and people there are infact sort of slaves to man-made laws. Muslims believe in Divine Supremacy of Law…..but unfortunately they do not seem to have a good system except autocracy as can be seen in some MEastern countries. For Muslims to attain their lost heritage and zeal for supremacy they seem to need a tyrant or a dictator over their heads…to make the keep their mind level. The fruits of democracy are evil as can be seen on this forum and in other places where democracy is imposed on Muslims…who are ready to benefit from its lacunae rather than observe it as non-Muslims are ”compelled’ to do but by force of rule of law….
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Kamal Ataturk adopted above policy and you find Turkey holding on eventhough it is a Muslim country…..
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as far as syed and his like are concerned they are NOT Muslims and you shouldn’t press them hard on the Islamic Issue……definitely Qadianism is a different cult and you ought to pose them questions related to their faith rather than allow them to speak on behalf of Mussalmaans.
to AKB
You claim islam is a religion of peace. Unfortunately it is not only of peace, but also of arabic imperialism, allah-centred totalitarianism and finalist fascism. You cannot have failed to have noticed this in ALL the islam-dominated societies SINCE 1400 YEARS.
Declarations of peace or peaceful intentions are not the same as having a clear unambiguous doctrine and policy about it. The peacefulness of islam is at best opportunistic and hence for the non-muslims not trustworthy.
So long muslims do not openly discuss the dangerous sentences in the kuran and keep pretending there are none, things will keep worsening, also for muslims.
You spend (waste) more time bashing ahamadiyas than in recognizing the actual problem(s) in islam/kuran. If any non-muslim tries to communicate to you about it then you go on a ahamadiya bashing spree as the “answer”. I hope you realize that now.
@ ahem
So what the heck are you here for?? Bashing Allah, Quran and the Muslims?? Right do as you will but as I bear allegiance to Islam I am not going to puke crap about my faith like you or the Qadiani’s.
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Qadiani’s fitna has to dealt with and there is no harm in rebutting their falsehood. If you have sympathy for them why don’t you ask your govt to allow them build their own empire like Israel in their place of origin ie Qadian, India??
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do not forget the huge Muslim population already living in India …among people of so many other faiths. Muslims are infact survivors and they know how to settle score with their enemies!!
@AKB
{Qadiani’s fitna has to dealt with and there is no harm in rebutting their falsehood}
Don’t worry brother. The Qadianis have already been dealt with. In 1974, the Parliament of Pakistan voted the Qadianis/Ahmadis “out of Islam”. King Faisal Shaheed of Saudi Arabia and Bhutto Shaheed of Pakistan made this historical step possible. Until then, the terms “Islam” and “Muslim” had not been defined in the right spirit. It was as a result of the historic SECOND AMENDMENT of the Constitution of Pakistan that the term “Muslim” finally got defined – this was the most unambiguous effort of the last 1400 years for which Bhutto deserves unabashed praise.
to AKB
Muslims have only self-made enemies (also within muslim groups) and they are settling scores since 1400 years. That is all that they can do. Nothing life-protecting and culturally high-valued can they bring forth – only terror, fascism, arrogance, irrational hate and arab imperialism. You are yourself a “brilliant” example of that.
Your allegiance to islam is a result of your mental slavery under this 7th century fascism exported from Arabia in the name of an arab god. The more muslims means the more of backwardness, violence, primtivism and fascism. Most muslims in India also prove this. In this they really are soul-brothers of pakistanis.
Telling a person who has become a mental slave of a fascist ideology may be of no use. If a prisoner cannot escape a prison then he tries to embellish it through self-deceit.
@ Parliament-Certified Muslim (May 10, 2010 at 2:13 am)
//…In 1974, the Parliament of Pakistan voted the Qadianis/Ahmadis “out of Islam”…//
I can understand voting in or out of the Parliament. But voting in or out of Islam – are you sure? Are you sure you understand what you’re implying? You are reducing Islam to a committee of corrupt politicians.
//…King Faisal Shaheed of Saudi Arabia and Bhutto Shaheed of Pakistan made this historical step possible…//
Faisal had the money. Bhutto needed the money.
//…this was the most unambiguous effort of the last 1400 years for which Bhutto deserves unabashed praise…//
Oh, I always thought that the most prominent service to Islam over the past 1400 years was rendered by the Holy Prophet Muhammad. So it was not the Prophet – it was Bhutto?