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Do Mullahs Represent Islam?
By: Farooq Ahmad Khan
Unfortunately, several miscreants among the Muslims are found among the Mullahs of Pakistan and perhaps the Islamic world at large. The problem at hand is that these Mullahs have swerved from the actual teachings of Islam and have blemished its image all over the world. And they are also found in various other countries such as Bangladesh, Malaysia and Indonesia etc. Many a time, they are quoted in news related to extremism, sex scandals and militancy.
The sayings of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) make prophecies regarding the Mullahs (many of them are also so-called Ulema) of today. For example, in one saying we find:
“There will come a time when there will be nothing left of knowledge. People will make the ignorant their leaders and will seek guidance from them in matters of religion. These leaders will issue fatwa’s without any knowledge. They will themselves be misguided and will lead others astray.” (Mishkat, Kitab ul-Ilm, Chapter 3, P. 38)
Another Hadith adds to this:
“Their mosques will apparently be full of people, but they will have no soul in them. Their Ulema will be the worst miscreants and they will be a safe haven for discord.” (Kanzal Ummal, Chapter 6, P. 43)
Shah Wali Ullah, the famous scholar of Dehli, declared two centuries ago:
“If you desire to see the example of the Jews, then just take a look at today’s evil Ulema. They only covet the world.” (Al-Fauzul-Kabir, vol. 1, chapter 1, p. 9)
Mullaism is an industry in Pakistan. If the Mullahs reform themselves then their madrassa incomes and Saudi donations would stop. They do not want to be penniless after all. Their influence has been strong even in liberal times. During President Ayub khan’s rule from 1958 to 1968, he wanted to get rid of the word “Islamic” attached to Pakistan’s name in the constitution. This was opposed by the Mullahs who warned the President to refrain from doing so or face consequences. The President cowed down before them. Ayub khan also wanted the role of Mullahs to be restricted to mosques. Sadly, he could not do this.
To sum up, the only survival for Pakistan is to be declared as a secular state. The father of the nation, Quaid-e-Azam delivered this message on 11th august 1947:
“You are free to go to your temples; you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in the state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed – that has nothing to do with the business of the state.”
Hence, there is still a ray of hope for Pakistan. Our country can survive and flourish and bring back its glory if this group of people are kept away from the state matters. God Bless Pakistan!
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Ahem,
The weakness in a fly is not the lack of sense for danger but the lack of capacity in its memory cells! This determines the duration of its suvival. Watch the Nordics, people from the North, always cool but once they start their march, no one in Indian history was able to stop them!!
Rex Minor
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Your next life you will be born as a fly. Then you will forget that you wasted one previous human life as bootlicker of arabs and mental slave of islamic fascism. If you are “luckily” born as fly in Norway then you will also have some nordic garbage on which to fatten yourself. Then you can fly to India and take over the power there as the “nordic victor” whom no Indian can stop. After that all garbage heaps in India will be yours, and yours alone, lick up.
The evil mullahs represent islam (a totalitarian-imperialist ideology). The good mullahs represent secularism (a tolerant ideology misused by muslims for islamic propaganda).
With due respect to all Muslims (Sunni or Shia) let us stick to truth.
Why ten days of mourning Muharram? It is well known fact that Shias started this custom of mourning Al-Husayn (maatam Husayn). Shia historian Justice Amir Ali (‘Mohammedan Law’ says, “founder and starter of Maatam-e- Husayn was Mazzal Dal Velmi a Shia in 352 A.H. (300 years after the incident)”. MAZZAL fixed 10 days of Muharram as permanent days for remembrance of the tragedy of Karbala. Shias today commemorate these 10 days of Muharram. Iraqi SABAAI narrators fabricated imaginary stories of cruel acts of horrific nature, like refusal of water and forced combats, which are not reliable and worthy of trust.
This is fiction. Pure lies akin to truth. In particular details about the date and days. The caravan of Husayn made a very long journey over a difficult route in difficult circumstances, could never have made it in a matter of 20-22 days time and reach its destination (Mecca – Karbala). Fabricators of the story of his arrival on the 2nd of Muharram of 61 A.H. did this on purpose to fabricate fiction for 10 days, which flourish with cruelty, refusal of water, battles and forced combats. The average speed of a laden camel, which is moving in the line of a caravan under normal circumstances, is two and a half miles per hour. Now to cover a distance of about 950 miles (Mecca to Karbala) at the speed of two and a half miles per hour and daily traveling for twelve hours on average would take at least 30-31 days. Departure of Al-Husayn from Mecca was on the 10th of Dhul-Hajj 60 A.H. (Ibn-Kathir) wrote: Husayn with his family members and 60 Kufic companions departed from Mecca for Kufa and the date of his departure was 10th of Dhul-Hajj.´Therefore, it was impossible for him to arrive at Karbala on 2nd of Muharram. According to truthful narrators Husayn reached Karbala on 10th of Muharram 61 A.H., which is acceptable. Thus it is obvious that purpose of fabricated narrations was to enable the narrators to present happenings in the colors and in accordance with their fiction. Nothing has aspired in these ten days, all these incidents are just imaginary stories and lies, then why do we keep Majlis´ in these 10 days of Muharram?
THE REAL STORY OF KARBALA : Husayn revolted against Yazid bin Muawiya and Kufis instigated him by supporting his idea. When Husain realized on his way near Kufa, that Kufis betrayed his cousin Muslim bin Aqil, he diverted the caravan towards Syria. On his way at Karbala, the Amir’s army halted him. Husain agreed to pledge to Yazid bin Muawiya.
60 Kufis who had accompanied Husayn saw their fate at stake, now that Husayn had changed. When Army approached them for their weapons, THESE Kufis attacked, and during this attack, Al-Husayn was killed (martyred).
This incident took place at Karbala when the caravan arrived on 10th Muharram and the fight was over in less than an hour. The claim of the Shias that Husayn was beheaded is a bluff. Husayn was buried with due honours and great respect and the Namaaz-e-Janaza was led by his son Ali bin Al-Husayn (Zeinul Abideen). So every thing was over in less that an hour !
(Matam : started by Maazal Dal Velmi 300 yrs after Husain!) – Syed Amir Ali, Shia Scholar !
If arabs killed arabs (due to some internal power struggle or doctrinal problems related to a fascist ideology) in Karbala in 7th century then why lament over that in India in the 21st century? Why waste indian emotions, time and energy on dead arabs? Are any arabs crying over dead indians today?
Islam is a religion of fools (and quislings), for fools, by fools to make more fools.
@ Ali Hyder Tabatabai
What nonsense? Don’t try to make a hero out of Hussain for nothing. You sound like a Shia Kafir. And by the way, if you are a Shia Kafir, what the hell are you doing in the holy land of Mumlikat al-Saudia al-Arabia al-Wahhabia? Don’t pollute the holy soil of Saudi Arabia. If you want to know anything about Islam, ask a Parliament-Certified Muslim of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, instead of making up your own lousy stories.
THE REAL STORY OF KARBALA:
Hussain was born a Muslim, but because he rebelled against the Islamic State, he was declared a KAFIR and MURTAD by the Nadwa-tul-Ulama of Kufa, who were the advisers of Yazid. As a result of this fatwa of the great Ulama, Hussain earned the Death Penalty, which was duly delivered to him.
@ Ali Hyder Tabatabai al-Yazeedi
@ Parliament-Certified Muslim al-Paleedi
@Ahem
As an Ahmadi Muslim, in my opinion, all of you represent the epitome of insanity.
@@ Ali Hyder Tabatabai
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Karbela is not a myth. It was a fight between a ruling Muslim and the Muslim son of Ali and the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad Muslim….a struggle for power. The shia’s exaggerate the incident to mythical level which is incredible and ridiculously ritualistic drama. It is not understandable what the followers of Mirja Ghulla are waiting for to wage a similar war to change this evil world or atleast the Muslims whom they call kafirs?? It would be great if they acted quickly and fought with their enemy Muslims and taught them a lesson….but it’s doubtful they would ever do that without ‘hints’ and ‘rewards’ from their Foreign Masters!
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Best if you read Abul kalam Azad’s book on the subject (Lahu Pukaray ga Aasteen ka) for authentic information on Karbela.
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@ ahem
I am a good mullah without a beard. Why don’t you take me into your secular fold and stop objecting to my taking 4 Hindu women as wives???
@ Milestogo
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CHEEN O ARAB HAMARAY
HINDUSTAN HAMARA
MUSLIM HEIN HUM WATAN HE
SAAR JEHAN HAMARA.
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mUSLIMS ARE LORD OF THIS WORLD…..ALLAH MADE THEM HIS CALIPH ON EARTH.
O YE UNBELIEVERS!! LOOK AT THE FACE OF MIRJA GHULLA …DOESN’T HE LOOK TO YOU LIKE A MULLAAH?? HONOR HIM PAY HIM HOMAGE HE IS THE MESSIAH , YOUR REDRESSER AND IMAGE OF KRISHNA AND CHRIST AND MUHAMMMAD!! HE WAS BORN TO CHANGE HINDUSTAN…ITS HINDU KAFIRS BUT LO!! HE HIMSELF GOT KICKED OUT OF QADIAN…..ALL HIS QADIANI FOLLOWERS TOO….
AKB
that was a brilliant comic ending to the Punjabi drama..err I mean Punjabi debate…Would you like to partner with me writing dialogue for a comedy movie, we could make it big in Arabia…
You are better than Iqbal, Iqbal never thought of using the CAPS for the effects.. thats one thing I like about English…
BTW can you please keep down the noise, we are trying to listen to Rexi and PMA on how their forefathers transformed from Punjabi to Arabic…its an interesting story…you might want to pay attention too…
Arab is probably fine but you might want to try for a Chinese visa before making that claim. You can sing again if you get the visa. Actually you can sing it either ways, who cares about godless chinese visa.
Allah will one day conquer cheen anyways – ghazwa-e-cheen…
AKB
Just because you are the only true Muslim here, I will give you a free advise…
ye iqbal jinnah ko goli maro aur muhammed Allah me dhyan lagao…sab confuse kar de rahe aap ko ye log…Muhammed didn’t really like poets…
I am copying an article by Ruzbihan B. i read on the web.
Quote :
Selling Vinegar bottled as “Honey”.
Shia-ism is a revenge of the Iranians against Muslims for conquering Iran. Period.
“Truth has arrived and falsehood vanished” – (Holy Quran)
Fiction sold as truth or in other words Lies concocted :
* Ghadir Khum : Man Kunto Maula : The story has a context. People of this area were NOT paying their Taxes. The prophet had deputed Ali and yet they did not pay the tax earlier. So while returning from the Last Sermon, he stopped at Ghadir Khum and addressed the locals saying : “Why did you not pay the taxes when Ali asked you for it ? I had sent / deputed Ali to collect taxes”. So it was in the context of LOCAL tax collection that those words were uttered. They did not imply that Ali was to be the SUCCESSOR (Jaan-Nasheen) to the Prophet. The Prophet had clearly indicated Abubakr to be the successor. The Jews/Zoroastrians/Nasranees started cutting the roots of Islam by writing a story ! Mis-using names of Hz. Fatima, her husband and her kids. They were EKTA KAPOORS of their time. They wrote this Drama Serial, which is pure fiction., and now some other fiction by these writers of Fiction.
1. Hz. Omar taking fire to the home of Hz. Fatima, leading to her assault and abortion. It is a lie. Hz. Ali lived for 24 yrs under the caliphate of Hz. Abubakr, Omar and Othman and he did NOT take the revenge ? He tolerated his wife’s insult and assault ? Amazing from the Lion of God !
2. Bagh-e-Fidak : Another lie. Hz. Fatima was not cheap enough to fight for a piece of land.
3. Karbala : Fictional Novel written 3 centuries after the murder of Hz. Husain Ibn Ali. Novelist : Tabari Ibn Hormuz (Zoroastrian).
4. Hz. Omar murdered by Abu Lulu, a Zoroastrian posing as Muslim (murder mastermind : Abdullah Ibn Saba, the Jew; with support of Iranian/Jew sleeper cells in Madina).
4. Hz. Othman murdered by Abdullah ibn Saba and his son (they subsequently fled to Yemen).
5. Hz. Ali served as Governor of Kufah, happily. After the murder of Hz. Othman by Saba`yees., he shifted the capital to Kufah (where he was already settled).
6. There was no Jang-e-Jamal. The war between Hz. Ali and Hz. Aisha is a bluff and fiction.
7. There was no Jang-e-Siffeen. The war between Hz. Ali and Hz. Muawiyya is a bluff and fiction.
8. Hz. Ali was murdered by Ibn Muljam (a Zoroastrian) Mastermind : Zoroastrians and Jews of Iran.
9. Hz. Hasan Ibn Ali served as Governor Kufah after Hz. Ali’s assasination. He left on health grounds (died of Tuberculosis) and settled in Madinah where he died a natural death. The story of poisoning by wife is another fake.
10. Hz. Husain Ibn Ali was murdered in the Governor House at Kufah by Joshan, a Zoroastrian. (Mastermind : the same group of Elitist Zoroastrians, Jews and Sabayeen).
11. Subsequently, the Zoroastrian Elite and Jews took revenge by inviting Mongols / Halaku Khan to invade Baghdad and destroy Baghdad.
12. The first casualty was Literature. All literature was burnt. (Abu Muslim Khorasani/Jafar Barmaki & Co. got active)
13. New literature (Fiction) was produced and propogated. It is this literature that has reached down to us.
14. Tabari, a zoroastrian wrote the Karbala Novel.
SO, Shia-ism may be a religion (a mixture of Zoroastrianism, Christianity and Judaism with Arabic terms/names) by itself, but it is NOT Islam. It has got nothing to do with Islam. Shia-ism is a revenge against Islam. It is getting into Islam, taking Arabic names., and destroying Islam from “within”. Sabayeen succeeded in this endeavour.
Vinegar is being marketed as Honey. This is now exposed. Those who find the above wrong, may kindly devote time and research for themselves. They will reach the truth if they persevere.
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Iranians are living under the shame of arab imperialism and they must re-assert their self-respect and identity by taking up their own religion that is Zoroastrianism.
The Zoroastrian religion is reformable towards modernity and it brings forth a far better socio-political performance than islam ever can dream of. Iranians must stop being bootlickers or underdogs of arabs and stop being a defeated arabized nation.
This will happen soon when iranains fall back due to islam and its fascism and realize the hard way that islam is not and need not be their fate.
When Muhammed died Islam was completed so why do we bother discussing historical garbage like what Hussain, Ali, Omar said it does not make a shred of difference if Muhammed perfected the religion them why have what these others say have such an impact on Islam.
If we can discuss Islam after MD, and later views are relevant why can we not reform it now. Why is being left as an irrelevant arab desert faith.
Surely a chinese cannot eat noodles with his hands, surely we in the west cannot be expected to eat dates in rooza. Surely it cannot be sunnat and therefore a blessing to sit on the floor, sleep on the floor, eat with your hands, use a floor level toilet, wear leather socks, wear a turban, wear arab clothes, use a stick to clean our teeth and spend our lives reading the quran in arabic. Surely God could not have wanted us to go quran qanis and read quran all day long it is pointless exercise.
This is why you should think that surely God would want you to follow the prophet in his deeds of honesty and hard work not dress like him.
Dressing, eating and walking like him is pointless.
Also lslam should be in the vernacular, there is no point reading quran in arabic no one understands and no one under stand the mambo jumbo in namaaz so what is the point.
They want to read kuran in arabic mumbo-jumbo so that the common muslims do not realize how much mistakes, contradictions, idiocy and evils there are in it. They just try to propagate the idea that it is the “best poetry and the best music and the best literature and best science” etc. The common muslim is fooled by this manipulation. All that he “learns” is that he will be getting a place in allah’s heaven if he is ready to die, lie or kill for kuran and islam. That is islam’s “formula of succees”.
@ MilesToGo
. oh no, I did not want to make you fluster to the extent that you have posted 5 replies in a row yet said nothing nice!!
JAO MISTER JA KAR NAHAO
GAO MATTA KA GOO NA KHAO
TUM SE BADBOO AATI HEY
BEEMARI TUJH KO KHAATI HE
JA OAY MISTER KAR KOI KAAM
KHUDA KO APNAY KAR PARNAAM!
QABL IS KE UTRAY TERI CHAAAM
ALLAH ALLAH, RAMA RAAM!
@@ MilesToGo
QABL IS KE UTRAY TERI CHAAAM
KAR ALLAH ALLAH, RAMA RAAM!
@ self-respect
bEFORE YOU LOSE YOUR SELF-RESPECT JUST THINK HOW SOMEONE CAN BE INFLUENCED BY MERE MUMBO JUMBO UNLESS THERE IS MORE TO IT?? JUST BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT YOU GO ON PUKING AT ISLAM AND THE QURAN,,,,,SHEER HYPOCRISY AND RELIGIOUS BIAS!
@ sherjat
Islam will not go by your wishes….Islam is what is embodied in the Quran.
Even a molvi like Mirja ghulla couldn’t change or rewrite it but got paid for misinterpreting it to frustrate and fail Hindu_Muslim struggle for Independence of a Greater India.
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If Islam has to be changed all religions of the world too…..in particular Hinduism. The world doesn’t need to worship shiva linghams, gao mattas or their poop or drink urine….and why should they?? Only the ignorant and foolish people would do that. At least Hinduism makes me NO sense at all!! It should be abolished not only in India and given away to some milder, pragmatic and logical belief such as Sikhism…etc, , Let the Punjabi’s rule India once again!!
@ Milestogo
If you hate Mullahs, Mollah Mirja Ghulla’s ghost will grab you by the neck!
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If you can’t respect Muslims or people of other faiths refrain from tendering your offers withour askance. Nobody wants your advice except when you come in public …in the thorough fare —and dare say what you say here!!
\Allow me to pass this message to likes of mi.le.t. ogo as well as the fans of Mirja ghulla too….
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ONLY MULLAHS CAN SAVE THIS WORLD FROM DESTRUCTION.
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The Great Partnership: God, Science and the Search for Meaning
by Jonathan Sacks
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What makes Jonathan Sacks such an attractive combatant in today’s wars of religion is the passion with which he engages in the conflict. Although he is always courteous in his contributions to the debate, there is no doubt that he believes much more is at stake than how we divide on some old philosophical questions. For him, the fate of civilisation depends on how we answer the God question. He remarks that while[[ "individuals can live without meaning, societies in the long run cannot" ]]– and only God, he claims, can supply the meaning we need.
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His logic goes like this: quoting Wittgenstein, who said that the sense of the world must lie outside the world, he claims that since the meaning of a system has to lie outside the system, “the meaning of the universe lies outside the universe”. The universe cannot mean itself, only that which lies outside it and brought it into being can mean it.
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That is as far as argument can take us, however, and it is an awkward place to arrive at. What happens next depends on us, and there are three possible moves. Atheists bite the bullet and say the universe means nothing – it just is – though we can give our own lives meaning by the choices we make. Theists find it impossible to accept that the universe means nothing, so they will themselves to believe in a God who alone can supply the meaning they crave. And then there are those who think there is definitely something odd about the universe but they can’t quite bring themselves to jump confidently into either of the solutions proffered.
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The compelling thing about Sacks is the passion with which he insists that only God can save us from the tragedy of nothingness. His argument may not persuade, but his passion almost does.
AKB
Thats true. Lets start by learning Arabic…:)
Ya Allah Hasan Nisar is hillarious –
chuchu ka murabba, charpai ka izad jisne kiya wo genius hai, land rover ke jhule le rahe hai…
anyways without Arabic, pakistan and afghanistan are doomed…
@ MilesToGo
Okay, you come to my madressah for Arabic lessons…I know Arabic and will teach you for freee….including bed and breakfast. Kaisa he?
http://youtu.be/fJjAqa-uq7U
watch German cinema instead…
http://youtu.be/Jfdn54wQnXI
http://youtu.be/_2w4zAken08
Somebody needs to put a twist on marriage verses…
One thing is so strange, they all look Arabic…May be Pakistanis are arabic…
Arabs learned ‘zero’ from Indians.
Allah actually knew about inbreeding problems years before western scientist discovered it, he just forgot to tell that to Muhammed.
Germans are evil people. They are not integrating with Muslim immigrants, thats so intolerant of them…
http://youtu.be/OVMhmr6t8bA
Arabs learned ‘zero’ from Indians.
Everyone learned ‘zero’ from Indians.
Because indians are zero.
But that is better than being in the negative.
Arabs and muslims are permanently in the negative. So they declare the achievements/results of others as their own.
I have combined the two write ups. Apologise if it is repitition, but this is a story that must be probed. DAN BROWN is writing a book on the BLUFF OF KARBALA. A war that never took place between 72 versus 26 lakhs or 72 v/s. 30,000-. Hz. Husain Ibn Ali, Governor of Kufa, was killed by Joshan Ibn Hormuzan, a Zoroastrian, and a Shia-t-e-Ali in the Governor’s Palace. TABARI wrote the fictional novel “Qatl-e-Husayn” in 300 AD (240 yrs after Hz. Husayn’s murder). Tabari based his fictional work on quotes from Al Mikhnaf, a confirmed liar and a vaudeville artiste., a daastangohe., who expired 60 years before Tabari’s birth. Let us presume Tabari wrote the fictional work “Qatl-e-Husain” at age 30., it means that Abu Mikhnaf had died 90 years back.
Muslims were united as a rock 200 years after the passing away of Prophet Muhammad.
It is after 3 centuries – that Mazen Del Velmi – the Jew – started Maatam.
It is from Tabari’s commentary that Salman Rushdie got his idea to write the “Satanic Verses”., because Tabari says., that while the Surah-e-Najam was being conveyed to the Prophet by Angel Gabriel., he felt some interference from Shaitaan !
Please note what Ibn Khaldoun had said about the murder of Hz. Husain @ the Governor House in Kufah ! “Husayn ibn Ali was murdered by his grandfather’s [Prophet's] sword”. Was he murdered by some of his own groups ? was he murdered by some staff member of the Governor house ? Who was JOSHAN ?
Selling Vinegar bottled as “Honey”.
- Ali Haider Nazm Tabatabai, Hyderabad Deccan.
Shia-ism is a revenge of the Iranians against Muslims for conquering Iran. Period.
“Truth has arrived and falsehood vanished” – (Holy Quran)
Fiction sold as truth or in other words Lies concocted :
1. Hz. Omar taking fire to the home of Hz. Fatima, leading to her assault and abortion. It is a lie. Hz. Ali lived for 24 yrs under the caliphate of Hz. Abubakr, Omar and Othman and he did NOT take the revenge ? He tolerated his wife’s insult and assault ? Amazing from the Lion of God !
2. Bagh-e-Fidak : Another lie. Hz. Fatima was not cheap enough to fight for a piece of land.
3. Karbala : Fictional Novel written 3 centuries after the murder of Hz. Husain Ibn Ali. Novelist : Tabari Ibn Hormuz (Zoroastrian).
4. Hz. Omar murdered by Abu Lulu, a Zoroastrian posing as Muslim (murder mastermind : Abdullah Ibn Saba, the Jew; with support of Iranian/Jew sleeper cells in Madina).
4. Hz. Othman murdered by Abdullah ibn Saba and his son (they subsequently fled to Yemen).
5. Hz. Ali served as Governor of Kufah, happily. After the murder of Hz. Othman by Saba`yees., he shifted the capital to Kufah (where he was already settled).
6. There was no Jang-e-Jamal. The war between Hz. Ali and Hz. Aisha is a bluff and fiction.
7. There was no Jang-e-Siffeen. The war between Hz. Ali and Hz. Muawiyya is a bluff and fiction.
8. Hz. Ali was murdered by Ibn Muljam (a Zoroastrian) Mastermind : Zoroastrians and Jews of Iran.
9. Hz. Hasan Ibn Ali served as Governor Kufah after Hz. Ali’s assasination. He left on health grounds (died of Tuberculosis) and settled in Madinah where he died a natural death. The story of poisoning by wife is another fake.
10. Hz. Husain Ibn Ali was murdered in the Governor House at Kufah by Joshan Ibn Hormuzan, a Zoroastrian. (Mastermind : the same group of Elitist Zoroastrians, Jews and Sabayeen).
11. Subsequently, the Zoroastrian Elite and Jews took revenge by inviting Mongols / Halaku Khan to invade Baghdad and destroy Baghdad.
12. The first casualty was Literature. All literature was burnt. (Abu Muslim Khorasani/Jafar Barmaki & Co. got active; role played by Nasiruddin Tusi, Astronomer)
13. New literature (Fiction) was produced and propogated. It is this literature that has reached down to us.
14. Tabari, a zoroastrian wrote the Karbala Novel (purely fiction). It is based on quoting Al Mikhnaf, a liar (and a stage artiste – a Daastaangoh ) who died 60 years before Tabari was born. In other words if Tabari wrote the Karbala Fiction Novel at age 30, that means Al Mikhnaf (his source) had died 90 years ago !!
SO, Shia-ism may be a religion (a mixture of Zoroastrianism, Christianity and Judaism with Arabic terms/names) by itself, but it is NOT Islam. It has got nothing to do with Islam. Shia-ism is a revenge against Islam. It is getting into Islam, taking Arabic names., and destroying Islam from “within”. Sabayeen succeeded in this endeavour.
Vinegar is being marketed as Honey. This is now exposed. Those who find the above wrong, may kindly devote time and research for themselves. They will reach the truth if they persevere.
THE TRUTH
GHADIR KHUM : Prophet had deputed Hz. Ali as his REPRESENTATIVE. It was uttered in that context. Prophet never gave an inclination that Hz. Ali was to be his successor. NEVER.
2. People forget that Hazrat Ali had 2 sons named : Usman Ibn Ali Ibn Abi Talib, and Abubakr Ibn Ali Ibn Abi Talib !
Haqeeqat-e-Waqeya-e-Karbala
by Ali Hyder Nazm Tabatabai
REAL STORY OF KARBALA
With due respect to all Muslims let us stick to truth.
Why ten days of mourning Muharram? It is well known fact that Shias started this custom of mourning Al-Husayn (maatam Husayn). Shia historian Justice Amir Ali (‘Mohammedan Law’ says, “founder and starter of Maatam-e- Husayn was Mazzal Dal Velmi a Shia in 352 A.H. (300 years after the incident)”. MAZZAL fixed 10 days of Muharram as permanent days for remembrance of the tragedy of Karbala. Shias today commemorate these 10 days of Muharram. Iraqi SABAAI narrators fabricated imaginary stories of cruel acts of horrific nature, like refusal of water and forced combats, which are not reliable and worthy of trust.
This is fiction. Pure lies akin to truth. In particular details about the date and days. The caravan of Husayn made a very long journey over a difficult route in difficult circumstances, could never have made it in a matter of 20-22 days time and reach its destination (Mecca – Karbala). Fabricators of the story of his arrival on the 2nd of Muharram of 61 A.H. did this on purpose to fabricate fiction for 10 days, which flourish with cruelty, refusal of water, battles and forced combats. The average speed of a laden camel, which is moving in the line of a caravan under normal circumstances, is two and a half miles per hour. Now to cover a distance of about 950 miles (Mecca to Karbala) at the speed of two and a half miles per hour and daily traveling for twelve hours on average would take at least 30-31 days. Departure of Al-Husayn from Mecca was on the 10th of Dhul-Hajj 60 A.H. (Ibn-Kathir) wrote: Husayn with his family members and 60 Kufic companions departed from Mecca for Kufa and the date of his departure was 10th of Dhul-Hajj.´Therefore, it was impossible for him to arrive at Karbala on 2nd of Muharram. According to truthful narrators Husayn reached Karbala on 10th of Muharram 61 A.H., which is acceptable. Thus it is obvious that purpose of fabricated narrations was to enable the narrators to present happenings in the colors and in accordance with their fiction. Nothing has aspired in these ten days, all these incidents are just imaginary stories and lies, then why do we keep Majlis´ in these 10 days of Muharram?
THE REAL STORY OF KARBALA : Husayn revolted against Yazid bin Muawiya and Kufis instigated him by supporting his idea. When Husain realized on his way near Kufa, that Kufis betrayed his cousin Muslim bin Aqil, he diverted the caravan towards Syria. On his way at Karbala, the Amir’s army halted him. Husain agreed to pledge to Yazid bin Muawiya.
60 Kufis who had accompanied Husayn saw their fate at stake, now that Husayn had changed. When Army approached them for their weapons, THESE Kufis attacked, and during this attack, Al-Husayn was killed (martyred).
This incident took place at Karbala when the caravan arrived on 10th Muharram and the fight was over in less than an hour. The claim of the Shias that Husayn was beheaded is a bluff. Husayn was buried with due honours and great respect and the Namaaz-e-Janaza was led by his son Ali bin Al-Husayn (Zeinul Abideen). So every thing was over in less that an hour ! Ibn Khaldoun has famously written : “Hussain was killed by the sword of his grandfather” (Prophet Muhammad!). What happened inside the Tent (Khayma) needs very deep research., esp. when the Zoroastrians destroyed all material along with the Tartars (Halaku and Changez). If Husain Ibn Ali was killed inside the tent.. some say after he agreed to give Bayah to Yazeed.. by the family of Muslim Bin Aqeel..).. A more reliable source says Husain, the Governor of Kufa was killed by a Zoroastrian Joshan Ibn Hormuzan., not in Karbala., but in Kufa.
The story of denial of water – fight for 10 days – burning of tents – is purely fictional and a bluff. There is no river/lake around Karbala. There never was any lake/river near Karbala for the past 5000 years according to Geologists.
(Matam : started by Maazal Dal Velmi 300 yrs after Husain!) – Syed Amir Ali, Judge Privy Council, and author of “Mohammedan Law”. The most prominent Shia Scholar !
[Baquer Majlisi, Author “Bahar-ul-Anwaar” was a student of Mullah Sadra, wrote a tome of lies. Allama Razi wrote attributed his articles to Hazrat Ali ! What a bunch of liars they were. They insulted Hazrat Ali by using his name and building a maze of lies and insults around his family to destroy the mission of Prophet Muhammad]. Shia means to Kill Ali and His Family and friends., then start beating the chest laying blame on someone else (Old Jewish Trick). Khud to Dawaat Phodi – Naam Aur Kaa bataya ? Shia means to destroy the mission of Prophet Muhammad., conquer Kabah and place new idols therein.
AGARCHEY PEER HAI AADAM ~ JAWAAN HAI LAAT-O-MANAAT (Iqbal)
@ Ali Hyder Tabatabai
{–A more reliable source says Husain, the Governor of Kufa was killed by a Zoroastrian Joshan Ibn Hormuzan., not in Karbala., but in Kufa–}
An even more “reliable” source says that actually it was Hussain who beheaded poor old Yazid the Zoroastrian, and not the other way around and also the the incident took place in Karachi and neither in Karbala nor Kufa.
Please read : “Dalail-e-Nabuwwa” by Abdul Jabbar Qaramati. You will then know who Abdulla Ibh Saba was., who Abu Muslim Khorasani was, who Nasiruddin Toosi was, who Jafer Barmaki was., who killed Hz. Ali (JAMSHED KHORASANI)., who murdered Hz. Husayn Ibn Ali, Governor of Kufa (JOSHAN IBN HORMUZ). The original is in Istanbul Museum.
@ Ali Hyder Tabatabai
After I blew your cover, you shifted to the anti-Shia mode. Now I know for sure – you are actually a Shia kafir secretly hiding in the Holy Land of Mumlikat al Saudia al Arabia al Wahhabia. If you are not a parliament-certified Muslim, like me, then don’t try to fool us with your conspiracy theories of there was no Karbala.
@ Ali Hyder Tabatabai
{–Please read : “Dalail-e-Nabuwwa” by Abdul Jabbar Qaramati. You will then know… –}
A student of History never, as a matter of principle, relies on a single authority. This “Dalail-e-Nubuwwa”, inspite of your liking, is not a revealed book. It’s author, however scholarly, is no prophet. On this particular subject, there are not dozens, there are scores of books. It appears that you have not picked this book because you found it convincing, but because it matches your pre-existing bias and ideas.
All muslim history-writing is full of confusions and contradictions. Even when they try to glorify/defend islam they end up in confusions and conflicts. With such a torrid history it is no wonder the muslims can bring no peace and cannot live in peace. Islam and its history-writing (by various muslims) have to be consigned to oblivion. Otherwise no peace will come to us.
Cruel violence and violence-glorification is the main sign of islamic history and history-writing. It is also a fascism centred around Mohammad and his family and around the kuran. In the 21st century islam and fascism will go together. Personality cult(s) leading to person-centred fascism (like around Hitler) is common to islam. Islam will produce the biggest and most violence-doers. Women will have to lead low-class lives full of ignorance, injuries and insults under islam. All this is happening and taking over muslim societies rapidly. It is a lost cause. A major sociopolitical catastrophe is no more avoidable.
Question : Do Mullahs represent Islam
Answer : No. They represent Abu Jehl.
Point No. 1 : It is now established from shia sources that the people who INVITED, BETRAYED, DESERTED and KILLED IMAM were none other than SHIAN-E-ALI from KUFA, over and over shia historian Majlisi present witnesses as to the origin of the armies that confronted Imam, shia over and over ask where were the muslim, why did they not come forward to defend the Imam, you shia should read your own book, when you call muslim killers you include Ahley Baite in it too, do you forget that Hz. IBN ABBAS[ra], IMAM MUHAMMAD BIN HANAFYAH[rta], IMAM YAHYA[rta] and many more, did not accompany the Imam, did they turn apostate too?, but this is not where the muslim were, you shia have obscured the history with your TAQEEYAH[lies] when Imam[ra] left MAKKAH, the muslims of Makkah sent FIFTY young men along Imam for his protection and in history they are referd to as Maki Companions, Mullah majlisi inadvertently mention only one such companion, all these MAKI YOUTH died defending IMAM[ra] and ARMY OF SHIAN-E-ALI killed and mutelated the Imam and his body:
Shia’s most authentic and accetped book which they accept above and over present Muslim Quran, ” ASOOL AL-KAFI VOL:1 PAGE 159″ Printed in Lakhnow, India. Imam Raza says:
“Allah got angry with shia, on killing Hussain, so Allah gave me choice either I accept death or let Azab-e-Allahi [punsihment from God] on shia which kill them all, By Allah I choose death”
Comment: Imam is the eyewitness and divinely ordained leader of shia,[shia belief] he is told by Allah that shia are guilty of killing Imam Hussain and they should be punished for it but like christ, Imam Raza took their sins on him and died, How many Imam do shia want to Kill?
“O Allah I beseech You to condemn the killers of our Imam Hussain [ra] and all their genrations to such a part of Hell where they are tromented like none other”
Point No. 2 : Prophet Muhammad had 4 daughters from Hz. Khadija (and not one). He had 6 kids from her (2 sons Qasim and Tahir who passed away is infants in Makkah and 4 daughters named Ruqia, Zainab, Um Kulsum and Fatima).
- Baquer Majlisi – Bahr-ul-Anwar, P3; A’yan P. 18; A’lam P. 146.
What is happening in Assam today ? 4 lakh people displaced. 73 people killed (60 Muslims, 13 Bodos). BJP has turned it into a “infiltration of Bangladeshis” into India issue. Naturally, it sees a potential to increase its tally in Assam !
Gopal Shankar (or Krishna) BARDALOI played the most important role in the Partition of India (after Patel). People do not know the real story of the partition of India. PATEL was the Boss. Everyone proposed, Patel disposed. Patel was powerful because he brought money that financed the Congress machine.
BARDALOI, who was Chief Minister of Assam, suggested partitioning of India. Assam was India’s richest state and muslim percentage was 40%. Getting rid of Muslims was imperative. The Marwaris of Calcutta gave the same message to Patel. GET RID OF MUSLIMS (ideally all., if not substantial). The Marwaris wouldnt, couldnt rule the roost as long as India had a huge muslim population. For Hindutva to succeed, an elimination (or reduction) of muslims from indian soil was necessary.
This was teh Marwari-Bania Plot., championed successfully by Patel.
But there are no “ANGELS”. Why did Muslims (Jinnah) fall into the trap laid out for them by Savarkar-Lal-Bal-Pal since the 1920s. I repeat what i wrote earlier : “Gurmukhteshwar Riots 1946″ broke Jinnah’s back. Until that time, Pakistan was a “rhetorical flourish”. Jinnah wanted to get a good deal for Indian muslims WITHIN a Loose Federal Framework for India (The same thing., as enunciated in the SARKARIA COMMISSION REPORT on Centre-State Relations in India). Nehru wanted a Strong Centre (consolidation of power). That was the ONLY major difference in viewpoints. Why did Nehru want a strong centre., and why did Jinnah want a weak/loose Centre ? Now both these arguments have their own plus/minus points.
When i look at the man-made disaster of partition of india 1947 to Assam 2012 via 100,000+ riots that have taken place in India since 1947 (where the muslims have been victims in 90% of the cases, in terms of loss of life/honor/property)., when i look at the fact that not one criminal [who participated in these riots/mob violence] has been hanged, when i hear and see the ‘POLICE TUMHARE SAATH HAI’, JAAO LOOTO., RAPE KARO., KILL MUSLIMS.. ENJOY.. A 3-DAY HOLIDAY IS FOR YOU.. i feel horrible.
When i see how the South Africans resolved their issue. The difference there was RACE (and not religion, unlike in United India). But hats off to Mandela and F.W. De`clark.. for handling the issue with such dignity and maturity.. The Reconciliation Committees… people venting out their anger.. and moving on.. without MOB VIOLENCE… with mayhem.. without killings.
The south africans proved so SUPERIOR in their handling of the situation… compared to Indians… (not to use stronger language)
to drona
It is the law of karma. The muslims practised genocide on non-muslims earlier. The muslims are even today very proud of having done that and even today profit from the genocides carried out by their ancestors on non-muslims. Can you deny that? If any one says muslims did not carry out genocides on non-muslims then he is a liar. Even today genocides by muslims on non-muslims are going on. Take a careful look at population changes in the world during the past 1400 years and during the past 60 years.