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Egypt on the brink
By Saad Hafiz:
By most accounts, the run-off elections in Egypt have resulted in a victory for the Islamist Mohamed Morsy over the military candidate Ahmed Shafik. The big question that has haunted Egypt since the advent of Arab Spring and the street battles that forced the overthrow of the twenty-nine year old Mubarak dictatorship is whether the all-powerful military establishment would allow a democratic transition to an elected civilian leadership which included the controversial Muslim Brotherhood.
To date, Egypt’s year-old transition from military to civilian rule has been anything but smooth. Popular protests, sectarian violence, and clashes between police and demonstrators have all at one time or another threatened to derail the process. Since Mubarak’ resignation last year, nearly 800 people have died as a result of constant political unrest. Many indicators suggest that Egypt is far worse off economically now than a year ago.
Egypt’s main backer, the United States has expressed concern that the Egyptian army was abusing hopes for democracy by ordering more military rule just as the Muslim Brotherhood was claiming victory in the country’s first free presidential election. The US spokesperson was probably referring to a decree issued by the ruling Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) that ensured that the new civilian president was shorn in advance of much of his power including control over the armed forces. This decree was issued just as polling stations closed and two days after the ruling by the Egyptian Supreme Court, stacked by Mubarak era judges dissolving a new, Islamist-led parliament. The apex court based its judgment on dissolving both houses of Parliament on evidence that there were ‘invalid’ seats in the house.
The court dissolved lower house of parliament known as the People’s Assembly had 498 elected seats with Islamists of varying sorts controlling nearly 70% of those seats, with the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party (FJP)-led Democratic Alliance controlling the most at 47%. The Islamist Alliance-list led by the Salafist Nour Party came second with 25%, followed by the Wafd at 8% and the liberal Egyptian bloc party list at 6.8%. Many experts expect the FJP to differentiate itself from the Salafist opposition by being more pragmatic, especially when it comes to the economy. The party may focus on promoting private investment, recovering lost revenue from land deals reached during the Mubarak era, creating jobs, boosting the agricultural sector, and reducing income inequality through redistributive tax policies. However, many Islamists from both the Muslim Brotherhood and the Salafist Nour party share general goals of inserting certain Koranic prohibitions into civil law, such as bans on interest-based banking and consumption of alcohol. Though both sides may differ on the implementation, according to one expert, “no matter how generously one interprets the sharia, certain prohibitions are unavoidable — and the Brotherhood’s parliamentarians vow to push those prohibitions into law.”
The experience of the past year has left many Egyptians doubting that the military, and what they call the “deep state” stretching across big business, Mubarak-era judges, security officials and the army, will ever hand over control particularly to its old Islamist adversary. The army could well learn from Algeria’s botched experience of transferring power to the Algerian Islamic Salvation Front (FIS) who had handily won the first multi-party elections in that country in December 1991. That prompted the Algerian army to halt the electoral process in January of the following year and launch a crackdown. The FIS was disbanded, various Islamist groups emerged — Al Qaeda’s North African branch is the latest incarnation of one of them — and the ensuing civil war killed up to 200,000 people, bringing the country to its knees.
While the Egyptian military could well be playing games with the electorate to hang on to its unlimited power and influence, it is helped by the fact that many Egyptians particularly the Christian minority quite understandably do not want to see the despised Mubarak dictatorship replaced by a hard-line Islamic state ruled by the Muslim Brotherhood. Some also favour continued adherence to the 1979 Egypt-Israel peace treaty which has kept Egypt at peace for over thirty years, a position opposed by many Islamists. Many voters were dismayed by an unpalatable choice between Shafik, a man seen as an heir to Mubarak and Morsy, the nominee of a religious party committed to reversing liberal social traditions.
The battle lines are clearly being drawn with the liberal urban youth movements which were in the vanguard of protests against Mubarak about two years ago, as well as the Muslim Brotherhood and other supporters of the Mubarak uprising planning a major protest demonstration at Cairo’s historic Tahrir Square to force the military to honour the results of the run-off elections. The best that can be hoped for as the tensions run high is that the check-and balance act between the Islamists and the military does not change to revolution in the streets.
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@Rex
You raise a good question about Bangladesh policies. I hear that World bank has canceled some big project loans. Also that British government training death squads in Bangladesh. Do you know of any detailed report of current affairs in that country?
nc
I hear you what you are saying. I have nothing against everyday Muslims. Muslims are not a problem, Islam is. Arabs are not a problem, Islam is, Allah is not a problem, Muhammed is.
I guess it is really difficult to understand this. Its not that Islam has been confronted for the first time. Their have been Rumis and Razas and Taseers before – but none succeeded. 14 centuries and still counting – I have nothing against everyday Muslims – Everyday Muslims are paying the price of blindly following Muhammed…
Earlier attempts to reform Islam have failed and current and future attempts will fail too. There is no such thing as radical Islam. Islam is radical and evil. But it does not mean that all Muslims are radical and evil.
I am just encouraging more and more people to read Ali Sina’s work before the radical Islam finds a way to remove them.
Ex Muslims like Ali Sina are the only hope to save Muslims and Kuffar from Muhammed’s evil trap.
I am writing neither for RHRs, Rumis and nor for Rexs and AKB’s.
Rex’s and AKB’s are permanently damaged. They can not be cured. I only hope that they or their children don’t end up blowing up.
RHR’s and Rumis are already doing more then their part. They are real heroes. Although they haven’t reached the root of the problem.
I am writing for the everyday kuffar and everyday muslims, who does not have any idea about the dangers of Islam.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/405014/genetic-engineering-in-east-pakistan/
bit dated but interesting –
http://youtu.be/gYKacRc-Hjc
http://youtu.be/OmizyHFabqQ
http://www.aina.org/news/2012070691126.htm
MTG
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There’s nothing wrong with AKB. He hits back when hit upon, that’s normal human response. It’s bigots like Minor who are part of the problem for Islam. These guys are good at camouflaging insults and an obnoxious superiority complex within a veneer of sweet talk. Traditionally they have always led Muslims to a path full of false promises. Under Muslim Brotherhood soon Egypt will be the next example.
ParvezM,
Sorry, I do not know much about people of bangla desh except that it is a muslim country and was formerly a colony of the Brits. I do take interest in world current affairs in my free time, therefore know about the plight of vulnerables around the world.
How does one deal with the emerging countries of non believers who do not recognise the God almighty, the creator nor any holy scriptures. Military might and wealth are their hallmarks of virtue and sheer ignorance of the ancient world is imbedded in their midst. As a consequence they are not brought up to have compassion for the vunerable ones nor love for the next?
Rex Minor
The final day on sea route took Shuja to Arakan where he was received by an envoy of Arakan king Sanda Thudhamma and escorted to a separate quarter for the Mughal prince. Niccolai Manucci wrote: “The date of flight (of Shuja from Dacca) was June 5, 1660 and arrived in Arakan on August 26, 1660.”[2] Harvey noted that Shuja came to Arakan as Sanda Thudhamma promised to provide him some of his famous ships to take him to Mecca for pilgrimage. He broke the promise. When Shuja arrived in Arakan with half a dozen camel loads of gold and jewelry, the temptation was too great for the Arakan king. Prince Shah Shuja’s daughter Princess Gulrukh Banu was raped by Arakan king Sanda Thudhamma and she committed suicide,[3] while Sultan Bang and another brother died fighting. They ran amok, nearly succeeded in firing the royal palace of Sanda Thudhamma in December 1660, while many Mughals were massacred.
The Portuguese who were famous there as pirates did save Shuja while robbed him of gold and jewels, these misfortunate events had a very profound critical breakdown effect on Shah Shuja. The surviving Mughals with Shuja escaped back to Tripura on 16 May 1661 with much difficulty[2] and arrived in Manipur in December 1661.[4] While Aurangzeb’s reconnaissance men were on the hunt for Shuja and for every bit of news.[5] Conscious of this, Shuja’s men spread false news that Shuja died fighting in Arakan, while others rumoured he shipped to Mecca. There were a thousand different tales about Shuja’s fate and nothing could be conclusive
to rex and his readers
No one can save us from the pretentious and perfidious preachings of a rex.
What he calls non-believers are the real dear ones of god almighty.
As a muslim he does not and cannot have the wise and fine intelligence to understands this.
God is sick of believers like rex. Such believers are the biggest hypocrites and sources/causes of fascism in god’s name.
Genuine god does not interfere in human lives. He does not insist on any holy scriptures or prophets or final guidance. He respects human dignity and gives human beings freedoms to be good or bad and deal with it collectively and autonomously with earth-bound methods.
Mental slaves of islam are zombies who will just spoil human lives all over the world.
The non-believers are the guarantee that hypocrites like rex and other muslimos don’t get the upper hand. The non-believers are god’s hope against religious fascism in general and islamic fascism in particular.
The non-believers are the guarantee that hypocrites like rex and other muslimos don’t get the upper hand. The non-believers are god’s hope against religious fascism in general and islamic fascism in particular
hindus(brhmns) and zoinists are nonbeliever.these two stanic cousins are responsible for all the evils in world.
believing in false prophet does not qualify one as a believer. One should believe in one almightily god.
mr rex,
this is how brhnst should brhave with innocent indian as per vedas,written by brhmn himself,
THUS SPAKE PERIYAR
Brahmin punishment to shudras
Christening: Good and auspicious names should be given to the Brahmins only. Kshatriyas should be given names connoting braveness and valour. Vaisyas’s name should be based on articles.
Sudras alone should be given names meaning disgrace and degradation. Further the word “Dasan” should be the suffix for all the sudra names. (Chap.2, S.31 and 32).
A Brahmin’s “Poonul” (thread) should be made of cotton. Khatriyas Poonul should be made 3 of janappa threads. Vaisyas Poonul should be made of goat’s hair. (Chap. 2.S.44).
Pigs & sudras: Any eatable article becomes polluted and unfit for consumption when:
(1) A pig dashes against, (2) hens and **** fly over, (3) when a dog looks at, (4) when a sudra touches. (Chap.3.S.241).
Any one, who offers anything eatable to a sudra after the ceremony will go to hell. Such a fool will be punished there. He will have to live there upside down. (Chap.3.S.249).
If the Brahmins happen to eat anything that has been tasted or touched by a sudra, that Brahmin should have intercourse with his wife that night and the dead will live in the motion of the wife for a month (Chap.3.S.250).
There are seven varieties of sudras:
(1) He who retreats in a war. (2) A prisoner in a war. (3) One who serves a Brahmin out of devotion. (4) Son of a prostitute. (5) One who is purchased. (6) One who is adopted. (7) One who is a traditional worker. (Chap.8.S.415).
Duties of the sudra: A sudra worships a Brahmin either for salvation or for his livelihood. It will be a good thing for him if he calls all others inferior to Brahmins. (Chap.10.S.122).
As the Kshatriyas have failed to perform rituals and as they neglected to worship the Brahmins, they are becoming sudras (Chap.10.S.43).
In any congregation, the Brahmin alone should eat first. If there is balance of food, that alone should be given to others. New clothes should be worn by Brahmins only and when they become old and torn they should be given to others. A sudra is entitled to receive only these. (Chap.8.S.125)
It is the duty of the king to order the sudra to serve the Brahmins. If the sudra refuses he should be punished and forced. (Chap.10.S.235).
A Brahmin could extract work from the sudra paying or without paying. Brahma has created the sudra only to work for the Brahmins. (Chap.8.S.413).
It is the main duty of the sudra to serve the other communities without jealousy. For his service he may get wages. (Chap.1.S.91).
Exploitation: The wealth of the sudra who does not perform yagna is to be deemed as the property of the Asuras. So his wealth could be plundered.. (Chap.7.S.248).
The wealth of the sudra could be forcibly plundered. No consent is needed. There need not be any hesitation. (Chap.11.S.13).
Even if a sudra is in a position to earn, he should not earn anything more than what is needed to his family. If any sudra does so, he may go against the Brahmins and be tortured. (Chap.10.S.126).
Punishment to sudras: If a sudra talks ill of a Brahmin his tongue should be cut off. (Chap.8.S.270).
If a sudra pronounces the name of a Brahmin or talks of his caste or accuses him, an iron rod ten inches long should be heated red-hot and thrust into the mouth of the sudra. (Chap.8.S.271).
If the sudra dictates the Brahmin to do a particular thing, boiled oil should be poured into the mouth and ears of the sudra. (Chap.8.S.272).
If the sudra hits at Brahmin’s hair beard, legs, neck, penis, his hands must be cut off. (Chap.8.S.283).
If the sudra sits in a seat along with a Brahmin, his hips should be scorched or he should be driven away from the town. (Chap.8.s.281).
Tajender,
Are you referring to the same Veda, that many hindu Indians are proudly referring to on this blog? How on earth an educated individual could support these diabolic expressions and on top criticise Quraanic verses or the old testaments in Bibe? The world of Islam is passing through a trying period; disunity within and under attack from outside with very limited reservoir of visionary leadership.
Mr Morsi has taken the first step to annul the desolution of Parliament which was ordered by the Egyptian military; while the outgoing President of the USA has announced to meet Mr Morciin Septembr this year. The Egyptian youth are arming themselves with old shoes in case the African decides to visit Egypt?
We are recollecing the reconciliation of Germany with France and the follow up treaty of friendship 50 years ago, which paved the way for the European project and put Nationalism on the background burner.
In the background the neofascists criminals have been active in desecrating ww1 German soldiers graves!
Rex Minor
tajender,
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you are bullshitting like always. There doesn’t seem to be an honest bone in your body.
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If you have anything to write about from real life in India, as and how it happened, then do so! But what you are doing is bringing in the scriptures and saying this is what happened.
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That same Manusmriti ordains more severe punishment for crimes if one is of a higher social status:
Manusmriti (8.337): In (a case of) theft the guilt of a Sudra shall be eightfold, that of a Vaisya sixteenfold, that of a Kshatriya two-and-thirtyfold, that of a Brahmana sixty-fourfold!
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All you can produce is bakwas put together out of context!
May be we should stop teaching manu smriti and start teaching some useful skills like medicine and engineering, IT
may be then we will be able to compete with Pakistanis…
They are learning Quran right and left and leaving behind everyone…
Its so hard to compete with Quran…
while the rest of the world has to build rockets, Muslims just ask Allah to send them Barrak to travel to moon – its so unfair…
mr rex minor vedas are full of bullshit they are kept secret by brhmns.women are not allowed to even touch.the above is written by a top brhmn of south india quoting vedas.they have converted india into crowd of brainless moths.i sent u the list of munis(scholars)who wrote vedas.they were born from wombs of fish dogss and donkeys.something which is against nature.the whole hindu literature is written to fool and enslave indians.
we have to finish these godless jews,brhmnst and zoinists,also wahabis if we want peace on this earth.they are the secret instigators of all holocausts in last 200years.communism was invented to rule world killed 5 crores russians.unfortunately winning every war hurting christians muslims and jews in particular and humanity in general.
MilesToGo
Make that Arabic Qurraan.
Thank Allah ,
Pakistani are living upto indian’s assesment and expectations. May they progress rapidly on the path of Arabic Muhammadan Idology and bring real peace to the land as per islam which is a religion of peace and moderation. Mentor Muhamad was sent by Allah as Mercy to All living beings and he successfully cloned all Pakistanis in his own image to accomplish this task. May they continue their inbreeding to produce Islamically intelligent children to compete with immoral Kaffirs. May the Malang rest in peace and hope become one of 70000 lucky one to be Admitted in Heavenly Mustang Ranch.
AHEM AND MR REX U WILL SURPRISED TO KNOW ABOUT OUR GODS, KRISHNA HAD 16003 WIFES,as per rajneesh 15003 were kidnapped and FORCIBLY married.brhmns were helping the kidnapping and used to convince their husbands that if u will give ur wives to bhagwan krishna ,u will go heaven or will suffer inhell in all ur 7 births.
apart from so many wives and concubines he used to fk his neighbours wife called radha.this immoral act is celeberated by hindus every yea,sale condomes jump 3 to 4 times during this period,.brhmn makes good money out of this drama…..Urvashi – the daughter of Lord Vishnu – was a prostitute. Vashitha was the son of this pro. He in turn married his own Mother. Such a degraded person is the Guru of the Hindu God Rama. (page 48)
? When Krishna himself is wallowing in darkness of hell, how can he enlighten others? Since Krishna himself is a shady character, there is a need for us to liberate his misled followers. (page 50)
? It was Brahma himself who kidnapped Sita. Since Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva were themselves the victims of l**t, it is a sin to consider them as Gods. (page 39)
? When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are consumed by l**t and anger, how can they liberate others. Their projection as Gods is nothing but a joke. (page 39).
? When Vishnu asked Brahma to commit a sin, he immediately did so.ayappan was born.he is most popular god of south. How can such a “evil brahma” be a Creator of this Universe? How is it possible for both the sinner and the entity which provoked the sin to be gods? (page 39)
? God, please liberate the sinful people of India who are worshipping False Gods that believe in the pleasures of illicit ‘Vyabichari’(sex) relationships. (Page 39).
while the rest of the world has to build rockets, Muslims just ask Allah to send them Barrak to travel to moon – its so unfair
foundation for rennainance was laid by muslim civiliztion of europe.
tajender
I agree.
If only European start teaching Quran and Arabic, they will do much better.
If only European start teaching Quran and Arabic, they will do much better
civilization means far more than this.father of medicine is ibn sina.not a european christian.
Tajender,
you are telling us these horror stories; perhaps it was this background that a prominent christian political leader cried out for “kinder statt Inder”, (own)children instead of (immigrants)Indians. The average of one and a half child per family has still not changed.
Rex Minor
ya sure, Europeans stole all the science from Allah and now Allah is furious and has invented suicide bombing…way to go…
rex u dont know what they did to india,
What Brahminism did to India?
Destroyed democracy in India
Removed equality for women
Prevented Philosophy and Science from developing.
Divided people from socializing.
Made life a misery to most of the population.
These Jews talk of love, morality, justice, truth but practice the worst values. Blue Star, Babri Masjid, Gujarat Genocide, Kandhamal are the most famous examples of their talk and action.demolition of babri mosque is the longest feather in their cap.
That is how in “Hindu India” we find no difference between the words and actions of gandhians, marxists, Hindu terrorists, Dalal Street Dagalbajs(cheaters). Everything in India is created, promoted and sold for the benefit of the “Jews of India
tajender
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Since you lift your material from the net you should use quotation marks for anything that comes after your very first line (which is your own). Otherwise you are doing plagiarism which is a form of stealing. For those interested here below is the source of tajender’s latest fantastical stories:
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http(colon)(doubleslash)www.devendrakulam.org(forwardslash)uploads(forwardslash)The%20origin%20of%20Brahminism%20Caste%20and%20Riddles%20in%20Hinduism.htm
And you know, stealing is forbidden by the Ten Commandments, which are the words of that fellow that goes by the name of “Ibrahimic God”:-). It’s another matter it’s also forbidden by the identical Panch Sila or the Five Precepts of Buddhism:oops:
mr rajtoo,
the institution of religion in India is nothing but an instrument of suppression of the so called lower castes. A religion which cements itself on the premises of inequality among people would inevitably have a literature which does nothing else but legitimizing the authority of Brahmans over the working class on the basis of ‘purity’ and knowledge.
No matter how many Ramayanas exist, all that matters is that who’s children are begging in streets just because they were not allowed to change the profession of their father.
Tajender
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Very bad! This is the last time I am citing your source, just to absolve you from any sin of the ten commandments.
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http(colon)(doubleslash)dalitnation(dot)wordpress.com/2011/11/04/300-ramayanas-dalits-dont-need-any-of-those/
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Have some fear of God, will you?
@non-communal
If you have a problem with what Tajender posted, post the correct version. Stop talking about fear of God Which god) and what ever the ten commandments are.
Tajender,
There are plans to include Islam in religion teachings in German schools, starting from 2013. Besides what is this rambling about the hocus pocus of Buddhism whenever you identify the inherent illness in hinduism. Are the so called Panch silla mandatory for a hindu and are they taught to hindu children? If so, why do some crackpots criticise the same rules coming in the form of ten commandments, which arfe mandatory for al believers of ONE GOD.
What is the mission of Indian hindu community now, besides turning towards Atheism and criticising Islam as a religion per say. Apart from Fingolfin and Mythbuster, I have not found one on this blog to regret about the atroricities being committed by Indian military against kashmiris?
Rex Minor
tajender,
The situation of the lower castes in India has been steadily improving. Except in politics, where people do choose to vote based on caste, just as people all over the world vote for “their own”, in real life caste has long stopped being a factor in the progress of an individual in India. The financial situation of the individual is certainly a factor. In India, the quota system was introduced to improve the situation of the lower castes, who had been historically discriminated against attaining higher social status.
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All this dalitnation stuff is simply a bunch of so-called “Dalits” who take money from Western Christians, to ridicule Hinduism and Hindu society. Basically they are anti-nationals and should be thrown out of India just like every other anti-national. These dalitnation “Dalits” don’t speak for Dalits. They speak only for their patrons in the West.
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Some Paki Islamists like you, like to take advantage of this anti-Hindu tirades. Go ahead! But like everything else, even this stance of yours in built on lies!
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The religion that exploits its followers most is Islam. Because only Islam keeps its adherents dull-minded, ghairat-charged. Whereas Hinduism encourages Hindus to study, Islam encourages Muslims to learn only Arabic and Qu’ran.
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In the whole of the Muslim world, there is only one people that deserves respect and that is the Iranians, because despite Zoroastrianism and Islam, they still have kept some substratum of old Vedic thinking, even after their separation from Indians four thousand years ago!
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Hinduism is an incredible fusion of astronomy, astro-anthropomorphism, history, and spirituality and included some of the first human efforts at social ordering. It is also the only living religion which has its origins at the end of the last ice age. Hindus basically created Mathematics, on which the whole modern civilization is built. Romans did not even have a name for a number bigger than “thousand”. 400 years ago, Europeans could not even do multiplication of large numbers. It was Arabs or rather Persians who brought Indian Maths to Europe.
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Islam is 1984! DalitNation is a fundamentalist Christian outfit!
nc
Tajender has such little imagination that he cannot help copy paste the same things over and over again.
i have already challenged him to name which Veda that verbiage comes from and he does not have the balls to name it. he as just taken sentences and given them chapter and sentence numbers to make them look like as if they ere straight from the Vedas. you will not meet a bigger charlatan.
those verses do no belong to any holy HIndu book and has been copy pasted from some Hindu-hate site.
Vedas do not contain any such verse as anyone who has read anyhin even remotely connected will know. he does not have the gall to name which Veda and exactly where it comes from as you will know if you ask him. the best we can d is to let barkin dogs lie for if we engage with them i have now realized, we will never indulge in anything meaningful.
Rajtoo
you too. just ignore morons like Tajender. their whole point is to illicit outrage among Hindus like you by quoting rubbish and attributin it to the Vedas.
he has never accurately quoted any Hindu scripture ever. such people have a really invidious agenda of trying to breed hatred among people where their is none. just ask him to verify the source and ask him which Veda he took those verses from and you will know….
to fingolfin
It would be good to put together what tajender writes and publish it as proof of the depravity, idiocy and perversion of mind caused by islam and dalitism. Both converge due to their fascist content in the person of tajender.
The necessity and unavoidability of the caste system becomes evident through persons like tajender. Islam too has its not-so-secret caste system for similar reasons.
ParvezM
the probem we have with what Tajender copy pastes is that it is not to be found in any Hindu text and et naive people like you think that they are.
this we belive s dangerous since it spreads misunderstanding and hatred. Indians know that what Tajender posts is bullshit but you do not and youill nd up forming an incorrect narrative about India and act accordingly.
i have no problem with him quoting ACTUAL verses from Hindu scriptures and making arguments….that is god and constructive. it is when he talks bullshit and attributes it to the scriptures that a sick mind is at play.
only someone who is set on a mission of hatred stemming from his lack of basic morality and character can steep so desperately low. i just hope people like you realize this. people like Tajender abound in lack of information and understanding between people and abound in falsehood.
no matter what the topic, he comes back to anti-Hindu, completely incorrect vitriol. question is, what are you going to get out of a guy like that?
ahem
just to clarify, i am for the Dalit movement. i am also for constructive criticism of Hinduism. i am just not for lies and falsehood as a method to taint anything.
and as i have already told you, there is a lot to question when it comes to the manner in which Hinduism has been practiced through the ages. but i have never found anything wrong with the scriptures themselves. i have only found problems with peoples practices which have had nothing to do with the scriptures…..like Sati.
tajender is an enemy of muslims and hence he keeps blaming brahmins and jews for the sufferings of the muslims. If tajender had been a real friend of muslims then he would have told them about the perversions and lies in islam and due to islam. By lying to the muslims he is proving himself to be their worst enemy.
Will he change after reading this? No, he won’t. Because he is muslims’ enemy and wants to mislead muslims and dalits further down into self-destruction. Do the muslims and dalits have the intelligence and wisdom to realize this?
to fingolfin
There are many wrongs in hindu scriptures too. But they do not affect hindu lives today the way kuran (and its fascism and lies) dominates and dictates the muslims’ lives. Hindu scripures are like a rusted gun with no ammunition in it, whereas kuran is like a loaded quick-fire gun in the hands of a mad killer shrieking and banging.
Dalitness is not a permanent state. Ahmedis have become Dalits in Pakistan while they are not Dalit in India and elsewhere.
Similarly a large number of Pakistanis are Dalit in Saudi arabia but not in western countries. East Pakistanis were Dalit but Bangladeshi are not.
ParvezM
), those were the good old days, and in those days someone was on the verge of expulsion from this blog because of charges of plagiarism from the net. Tajender today does it indiscriminately, in every post, from fantastical sources, without even bothering to put quotation marks, just to give a false impression that he writes them. This is stealing (remember the story of the child on German TV 
), plain and simple, and those who supposedly follow the ten commandments the word of God (the Jewish God 
), should have no problem when he is told to refrain from stealing! All I told him is to put quotation marks and cite the source, at least the quotation marks. In fact you should tell him to follow some basic rules of blogging yourself, if matters such as honesty and integrity are of any value to you.
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@non-communal
“If you have a problem with what Tajender posted, post the correct version. Stop talking about fear of God Which god) and what ever the ten commandments are.”
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Parvez, what tajender copies and pastes from the web doesn’t bother me. All I ask for is to cite the source and use quotation marks, otherwise it’s plagiarism.
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There was a time long time ago in this blog, before guys like Minor came here with their subtle slants and insults and phrases like imposter gods and turned this website into a battleground of Hindus and Muslims (as is their wont anywhere they go, first call everybody around them sinner and inferior, and then complain why they are not rented an apartment
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I believe you say this, because you read only the Western interpretations and translations or by Macaulayized Indians. They will write bullshit about the scriptures simply because they have their agendas, and most of what they write can be proven wrong. Read how Hindus explain the scriptures!
What is the mission of Indian hindu community now
mr rex only aim of hindu comuunity is to rob india and run away to europe and america.they are not only enemy of muslims,they hate weak,and rob everybody.non aryan hindus are main targrt.
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Many hindus too have criticized hindu scriptures. That proves that hindu religions are not fascistic and do not require fascism for their survival. When the muslim reads that then he is ashamed and enraged and hates himself that he cannot freely criticize islam. Hindu religions do not fear collapse if critized. Islam and muslims fear criticism of islam like the devil fears honesty.
tajender,
there are no Aryan Hindus and Non-Aryan Hindus. There exist only Hindus! There is no such thing as Aryans. That is just something the Nazis cooked up, the British used to enslave and divide Indians, and these days is being used by Christianists in their agenda!
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You are part of the agenda!
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The biggest robbers of India were the Islamic invaders and the British, and now the Business and Political Elite of India.
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You are not a robber! All your friends at DalitNation get are some crumbs and bones from American Christianists. Your friends are willing to betray India for those crumbs.
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You yourself are not even an Indian, but a Paki Islamist and know little about Hindus. You are just a copy and paste machine without a brain!