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‘Save Burma, let Pakistan burn’
By Hasan:
Social networks are crowded with pictures, pleas and appeals for the Burmese Muslims caught in the midst of a terrible conflict with the Buddhist majority in Burma. The tales and pictures (most of which are fake though) being used on social media are gut-wrenching and horrifying. Amnesty international has accused the security forces and ethnic majority of Rakhine Buddhists for the violence being perpetrated in the north. It should be well-known that this conflict is purely ethnic and has nothing at all to do with religion. Loss of life (in any way or form) is condemnable and all measures should be taken, to bring these horrific crimes against humanity to an end. As with everything remotely related to Muslim persecution, my Pakistani (Muslim) friends are at the forefront of the campaign to ensure that the news reaches everyone. They consider this their ‘religious duty’ to make sure every Muslims is actively participating in spreading the news of such violence. Words being used to describe the acts of the Rakhine Buddhists are “shameful”, “heinous”, “criminal”, “in-humane” etc. Just yesterday I noticed a poster where it was claimed that Muslims aren’t allowed to say “Azaan” and that this was “cruel in-justice”. I cannot say it is true but it did sadden me, to think that an individual is being deprived of his most basic religious activity.
But then, it hit me, Burma’s situation is not that different from Pakistan. The majority Muslims in this country impose on (whatever) minority (is left) in this country. Christians, Hindus and other minority religions are being persecuted all the time. Even minority Muslim sects like the Shia sect is not safe from this persecution. They are killed upon identification, Christians and Hindus are forced to give up their religious belief and convert. Those who do and revert back are killed again. Ahmadis are barred from praying, their places of worship (which cannot be dubbed as mosques according to the constitution) are being demolished. They, and other minorities, even some Muslim sects are dubbed ‘wajib-ul-qatl’ (obligated to be killed) and yet the same Pakistani Muslims feel sorry when they find Muslims in the same situation?
hypocritical isn’t it?
In no way I am justifying the crimes against humanity in Burma. They have the rights of religious liberty and freedom of living and speech. But since when does a Pakistani Muslim care about it? Burma is not a Muslim state, if Pakistanis can legislate killing of people who believe in the freedom of speech, why are they outraged if another country uses something similar to it for Muslims? They celebrate when Mumtaz Qadri kills someone who have a different opinion on some issue, but they protest if the same thing happens in Burma. I hope they understand how it feels to be at the receiving end of this persecution which is deemed ‘HOLY’ by many. It isn’t that holy when it is brought upon them (or people from their clan). The point of writing this is not to condemn the protests against these crimes being committed in Burma (they are to be condemned strongly), but to make my fellow Muslims understand that they are no different from these Burmese military men or the Buddhist majority, imposing their will on the helpless and exposed minority. I hope this might help them understand.
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i dont think you live in Pakistan or you even know Pakistan. Pakistan is a muslim majority country where all the religions can be practiced freely as Islam doesnt prohibit doing that in peace… here no one is forcely converted nor killed, infact the minorities are at a better place… i myself have come across hindus and christians who are working at good places at high designations… i have never seen or heard that non muslims are being badly treated here, infact we love humans as muslims coz Allah in the Holy Qoran tells us to behave in a good manner with everyone… we are not even supposed to talk against their religion according to Qoran.
so please stop propagating falsehood!… this article is definitely written to misguide the readers!
May Allah bless us with knowledge and guide us on the true path… ameen!
RajTOO
Even the peaceful Budhists are running out of pateince.Wonder how long befrore the whole kuffar world come to the same conclusion anf fulfil the long desired separation between the House of Knowledge, Science, Humanity,its civilization and the House of Medieval existence.
Dear Ufaq Moshin,
Yes, I do not live in Pakiland. Considering how screwed up you guys are I am kinda glad.
Are you saying that there were no fun and games regarding that Hindu boy on TV? Was it all a conspiracy to defame good ol Pakiland by the usual suspects?
RajTOO
Even the peaceful Budhists are running out of pateince.
in india they are peacefull otherwise see the deeds of japanese in china or recenly singhalese deeds with tamilsin lanka.only muslims are peaceloving.this rss vhp game.same they started in assam.
romain is such a jackass! It’s unbelievable!
tajender, yes only muslims are peaceloving. Except when they cut the windpipe and carotid artery of animals and the animal dies of hypovolemia. tajender, have you seen large camels seething in pain in pools of blood and children enjoying the fun nearby in practically every Muslim country (watch it on youtube)? All in the name of God!
heavy_petting,
i try very hard
Ufaq Mohsin is the proof that not only Islam have arrived 400% in Pakistan but Islam and Pakistan have become one. No difference, no distance left between these two as both have merged together and peace is established. Whole kuffar and ignorant world is looking upto this land for guidance.
Dear Ufaq Mohsin,
Care to explain these then?
http://tribune.com.pk/story/413084/no-compulsion-in-religion-one-should-be-able-to-choose-their-religion/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/406708/police-demolish-ahmadi-worship-place-minarets-in-kharian/
These are just a few….
pain in pools of blood and children enjoying the fun nearby in practically every Muslim country (watch it on youtube)? All in the name of God
heavy_petting
i thought u were describing victims of ahmadabad riot.
To ahem!
I agree with you as far as “facsism of Muslims nowadays” (but NOT Islam) is concerned. However, this is a purely historical debate whether Islam was spread through coercion and force or love and logic. I believe Islam IS a religion of love and peace and it spread fundamentally through better reason. Only that what YOU say is Islam may not necessarily be Islam. Just as I too can make a subjective statement like ‘noone is voluntarily Christian or Hindu or this or that.’ But my great religion doesn’t teach me to make such irrational, over-generalized statements on others. I hope you are reasonable enough to see the ‘illogic’ of your sweeping statements. I’d suggest you read Ahmadiyya and observe for yourself the Ahmadis, the believers and the true practitioners of the religion of love and peace . Now I strongly doubt you’ll come to logic and rationale to do justice to a point of difference, thus proving yourself to be equally fascist! I dare you, with due respect and regard!
To ahem!
I agree with you as far as “facsism of Muslims nowadays” (but NOT Islam) is concerned. However, this is a purely historical debate whether Islam was spread through coercion and force or love and logic. I believe Islam IS a religion of love and peace and it spread fundamentally through better reason. Only that what YOU say is Islam may not necessarily be Islam. Just as I too can make a subjective statement like ‘noone is voluntarily Christian or Hindu or this or that.’ But my great religion doesn’t teach me to make such irrational, over-generalized statements on others. I hope you are reasonable enough to see the ‘illogic’ of your sweeping statements. I’d suggest you read Ahmadiyya and observe for yourself the Ahmadis, the believers and the true practitioners of the religion of love and peace . Now I strongly doubt you’ll come to logic and rationale to do justice to a point of difference, thus proving yourself to be equally fascist! I dare you, with due respect and regard!
ahem hinduism is mother of apartheism fascism and nazism.on 6th nov 1947 u mascared 250000 in jammu.mascares of burma and assam is ur deed.demolition of babri mosque is longest feather in cap.
to tmt
You are attempting to absolve islam by incriminating some muslims. That trick does not work. Islam is 1400 years old and hence has to be judged by its theory and its results – not by its self-glorifying declarations or by the faults of some followers of islam.
There is something inherently totalitarian-fascistic in islam itself. It would do the muslims good not to deny this (or be emotional about it) but search honestly about what it is. It is no point me telling them what it is. They have to develop that sensitivity and intelligence themselves. And that is not possible unless they start questioning islam’s arrogant finalist declarations and claims.
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So you can keep praising islam (in “holy” ramdan time is this hypocrisy naturally more) and denying its fassim – but that will only mean that things will become worse.
Declarations of “Love and peace” have been used even to hide fascism. Such tactics are not uncommon for missionary ideologies.
A person is hindu by birth – nothing voluntary about that. A person is muslim also by birth or because he was bribed or intimidated into becoming a muslim. In neither case is there anything voluntary. Factually a muslim canot leave islam because he is threaned with death or atleast terrible social pressure. So no one remains a muslim voluntarily.
These are bitter facts about religions and especially about islam.
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You wrote: “But my great religion doesn’t teach me to make such irrational, over-generalized statements on others.”
But the kuran does contain many “such irrational, over-generalized statements” on non-muslims.
Of great concern is the fact that muslim liberals have neither the ability nor the will to defeat the islamofascists since the kuran favours the islamofascists through certain sentences. The madrassas are teaching these sentenecs to young gullible foolish muslims.
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The ahamdiyas are no-muslims since they do not regard Mohammad as the final prophet and borrow a lot from non-islam. So their example is false. (This does not mean that I condone their killing or torturing by real muslims).
Logic and rationale demand that we don’t allow ourselves to be manipulated by so-called revelations. So before you teach me about that take care to liberate/free yourself from these so-called revelations, final revelations, prophets and interventions by some god-concept and its agents.
to tajender
Islam began by killing non-muslims and stealing their lands, women and wealth. Islam is the arabic for of proto-nazism. So long Mohammad was not powerful he played the game of being innocent and peaceful. When he acquired power he showed his true fascist face and let loose this fascist ideology of islam on us. The worst of islam is yet to come. With liars like you managing things, islam will become really bad.
So long Mohammad was not powerful he played the game of being innocent and peaceful.
AHEM,
this is what notrious kautilya says.prophet mohammed(peace be on him) fought war of liberation and emancipation for poors and haves not.
u people pas your life in eating entertainment sex and cheating.kamasutra is the only gift hindus gave to humanity.
tajender is the only gift which islam gave to PTH. tajender’s hate-filled lies is the only gift which tajender has to give to India and indians.
ahem…..bangladesh never sent any apeal to india for help.first mascare of innocents was carried out by rss supported mukti bahini around 150000 were killed and their women raped.then pak army took retaliation and killed almost same number.remaining is propaganda and lie.
indian economy was down.indira used this to win election.
in bangladeshi court people asked the goverment to submit names and list of raped women and dead people.no awnser has come
tajender has his own version of history. That version suits to the need of glorifying islam with all kinds of lies. When the brain is islamized then there is no help for it anymore. Islamic fascism and suitable lies determine the life of many muslims like tajender.
ahem brhmnsm is mother of all evils like apartheism.till these notorious brhmns are not kicked out indians cannot sleep in peace.
revelation of islam is biggest gift of allah to humanity.lunatic centre is the only right place for people like u.
to tajender
…islam is mother of all evils like apartheism.till these notorious muslims are not kicked out indians cannot sleep in peace.
revelation of islam is biggest and most perverse deceit by the arabic-mohammadan allah on humanity.lunatic centre is the only right place for people like u.
humho
u have reacted like a monkey.
Assumptions, assumptions, and more assumptions! Ahem dear, is there any difference between you and these hate mongering nincompoops? I don’t see any. For example, on what authority can you tell someone that he’s a muslim or not? Secondly, you have scant knowledge of history, and are just full of hatred for all religions esp for Islam,probably for some personal reasons. Your ultimate weapon: whatever you can’t answer, is ACCORDING TO YOUR NARROW MENTALITY, ‘not islam’! Blinded by hatred, you can’t see the same ‘cock-sureness’ of your own very biased and illogical statements that you’re blaming others of. ‘You are not Muslim, you ARE Muslim. . . ‘ you too are a fundamentalist closet Mullah! What meaningful debate one can expect to have with you?
to tmt
Are my assumptions wrong?
Read my post (of July 28, 2012 at 3:09 pm) again and try to refute the points mentioned therein.
Read also what I wrote to abdali (Are we caving in?) (July 30.).
Then you can ask yourself whether you can refute me or not and whether I can debate or not.
Islam is already 1400 years old and hence it has to be judged by its actual results. And all islam-based societies are now proving to be deeply fascistic and violent.
You did not create islam – so why do you feel hurt? You are brought up as a muslim, so you have this compulsive habit (like most muslims have) of reacting with anger and bitterness when islam’s fascism and arabic imperialism is exposed. I am not holding you responsible for having created this fascism and this mayhem.
@ ahem
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what a moron you are!! why do you forget that Indooism and buddhism are as old as 5000 years? Islam is much younger,more fresh, fertile and younger than any religion of the world, even younger than Judaism and Christianity.
Rest assure islam will sooner or later catch up and become the unanimous religion of the world….and you will lie in the mound not even able to scratch your balls!!
@ humho
You too seem to have been ‘bitten’ by some islamic shark! get inoculated before you turn rabid.
to AKB
Using filthy angry language is typical muslim way of debate. It proves that muslims can only be violent in words and deeds. If muslims take to the path of honesty and rationality then islam will collapse. That is why muslims habitually go into the mode of violence in words and deeds.
Even if islam becomes the largest religion it only means that islam’s ability to deceive and manipulate human beings is large. You are yourself an illustration of this.
Ahmedisim is even younger, fresher and more peaceful.
Cancer can spread rapidly and kill the human but that’s about it – it dies with it. Spread of Islam is like spread of cancer.
http://youtu.be/asXCfHhDfwo
RHR – this is a must listen…this is food for your hunger for knowledge…