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Islam and Modern Times: Why a Different Approach is Needed in Interpretation
Raza Habib Raja
One of the biggest enemies of the religion of Islam is its followers as it is their behavior and ways of engagement with the rest of the world which shapes its outward image. Today whether we admit it or not, the fact is that Islam’s name has become intertwined with terrorism, misogyny and intolerance towards the followers of other religions.
And this image, of course has a spillover effect and consequently the world does not feel the same level of empathy when a natural catastrophe strikes in a Muslim area or even if Muslims are prosecuted, the way it does for the rest of the humanity. Worst still, the racial crimes against Muslims or even those who are perceived to be Muslims are on the rise. Religious minorities like Sikhs are today being attacked for their proximity in appearance with Muslims. Moreover, whenever any instance of terrorism occurs the first perception is always that a Muslim is involved. I remember when shootings in Norway took place, the first reports falsely claimed that the killer was a Muslim and frankly those sounded completely believable as even my first instinctive hunch was that it was a Muslim. Moreover, Islam’s name is constantly being associated with mistreatment of women all over the world.
Muslims by and large, are themselves to blame for that. It is the way they interpret and follow their religion which has led to this state of affairs. Although it has become common among some critics to keep on blaming Islam itself but in my opinion a religion is nothing but an ideology which assumes its material shape through its followers. Whether religion is “divine” or not, it affects the society and culture through the way it is believed and followed.
It is not Islam but what the majority believes about Islam which really matters. Now a huge majority is actually moderate but at the same time completely passive when it comes to matters of religion. The religious lobby despite being electorally weak has been able to wield tremendous influence and influence is dominant through the state and its laws almost in all the Islamic countries.
But state is just one part of the whole issue, culture of Islamic countries also places a strong emphasis on religion. Although it can be argued that substantial cultural differences exist between various Islamic countries (after all you cannot compare Bangladesh with Yemen or Iran) but the fact is that there is some commonness which religion lends to all the Muslim countries and enables them to be called Islamic countries despite at times substantial ethno linguistic differences.
In all the Muslim societies, the culture places a very strong reverence of religion and creates a general atmosphere where anything religious is more or less unquestionable. Even if someone has to question it, he/she has to question from “inside the religion”. For example, the controversial blasphemy law is almost never questioned for being against the modern day human ideals but being “against the spirit of Islam”. And that perhaps is the only way which is available and I fully concur.
The culture, laws and the general modus operandi of the state in Islamic countries have created a nurturing ground for a bigoted mentality which revers religion a lot and led to development of an inherently intolerant attitude towards religious minorities. Of course the environment cultivated by this overemphasis of religion does not have uniform effect on all the individuals but it does affect them in varying degrees in the aforementioned ways. Plus the extreme reverence of religion means that any religious inspired law, once it is enacted, is almost impossible to repeal.
No matter how we try to project a case for secularism the fact remains that Muslims all over the world want religion to be the part of their lives and even laws. While separation of state and religion is a very noble idea but frankly it will remain a farfetched dream. What is more realistic is that we have a different look at religion and try to understand things in a contextual manner. The central idea is reinterpretation to bring Islamic ideas in conformity with modern times. Even in the West, secularism evolved through liberal discourse on religion.
Historically Islam has been interpreted as“complete” and suitable for all times and this makes any independent discussion on it extremely difficult with rousing the violent passions. Moreover,literalism dominates the interpretation where by the holy text is interpreted literally and no attempt is made to understand the context. Allegorical interpretation is virtually nonexistent which in turn makes interpretation time bound in 7th century and suited for those circumstances. This practice of literal interpretation has actually proven detrimental to Muslims as it has become an effective propaganda weapon in the hands of critics of Islam. Whenever Muslims try to argue that Islam is a religion of peace, the opponents would actually quote verses about Jihad and point to the fact that Islamic religious scholars interpret these as literally. Literalism thus becomes an extremely effective tool for the opponents and they exploit it well.
Now although various schools of Islamic Jurisprudence (Fiqh) exist but while they may differ with each other ( the difference underlines the fact that Islam does not have a monolithic version), almost all of them are conservative with respect today’s time. Now this is extremely important for both Muslims as well as critics of Islam to understand that any religion or for that matter any idea is seldom abstract. It is a by product of particular times and circumstances and tries to offer solution which are appropriate for them.
Islam did not come into a vacuum. It came in 7th century and while some of its solutions are general and can be extended to even today’s problems, but by and large they try to address problems which a tribal society of those times was facing. What seems extremely harsh today was acceptable for those times and was an improvement on previous times.
Yes many claim that even by those standards and compared to some of the other religions some of the solutions to society’s ill are particularly harsh but at the same time those were widely accepted and embraced. Spread of Islam was not merely through sword. I have heard a lot about “forcible” conversions but you can not maintain the zeal and enthusiasm which Muslims have for their religion
over centuries if their ancestors had been merely forced. In fact if that had been the case the “forced” coverts would have ensured to instill hatred in their children.
It is this incrementally progressive spirit which needs to be fully understood and we need to realize that argument for reform actually comes from within Islam not from outside it. In its essence, Islam is progressive and therefore we have to maintain its progressive spirit. Any religion, law or idea is eternal if it has the inherent flexibility otherwise it becomes time trapped. In its spirit Islam is a progressive religion and has a reformist attitude. It is that spirit which needs to be understood rather
than focusing on scripture. The followers by interpreting literally are themselves weakening the claim that Islam is divine and also “forever”.
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Romain, sorry I lost track of the discussion. Did we decide whether poverty and illiteracy lead to (religious) extremism? My argument to you was that (1) in some sense every society will always have people who can be called extremists, simply because of how we use the word ‘extremism’, (2) the real cause of extremism, in the effective sense, lies in the role of ideas – how they are legitimated, supported, and defended by the society at large – NOT by just “extremists”. Since societies treat ideas very differently, they tend to be more or less likely to produce and empower extremists.
Anything specific you agree or disagree with, brother?
Hi Kaal,
Yes I did. I beleive that any message to be register required a receptive audience. And I elucidated the spread of Saudi Islam (as opposed) to the Malaysian Islam due to the Saudi Money, which came about after they nationalized Aramco.
In fact the Iranian revolution does not happen till well after the coffers are full from the OPEC action in 73.
The root cause of discontent in Iran being uneven distribution of wealth.
The root cause of spread of extremist Islam among literate (or even educated) masses is also solely attributed to “being denied” their fair share.
Why is Paki Taliban being so succesful? They are eliminating the feudal lords from areas they are gaining control of – again the primary factor being economics.
Lets assume that the story is true. what message/social/cultural/religious factors do you think influenced the two kids to throw grendes on the Police Post – Again the primary motive was Gandhi’s photo on piece of paper but with 500 written on it
Ranjeet,
Women as part of Mal-e-Ghanimat get the highest respect in islam. They are free to choose their owner and please them to cater to their wishes. Safiya bint Huyai was an opressed young woman living with her rich husband and other members of joint family. Allah’s last Prophet establsihing perfect example for eternity liberated her by killing her husband, father and brothers, dug up the hidden treasure and distributed the whole vanquished town, women, children,wealth etc among his followers. Safiya known for her physical beauty was so impressed with these compassionate acts of Allah’s last and perfect Prophet that she insisted on marrying him on the spot and spent the very same night freely pleasing Prophet with her love and beauty. As a slave girl , she was granted the right to be exempted from the customary Idda period and mourning of the torterous death of her family members. She was liberated from such human burden within 24 hours .
Such compassion and religious achievements are hard to achieve in Kuffar world. When a Pathan woman approached Hari Singh Nalwa and expressed desire to have son like him . As child of Guru, He told her about his wife and aske her to consider him as her son and resepted her as a mother. A sardar in Shiva ji army kidnapped Moghul Noble woman to evenge the Saffiesque Islamic holy tradition of rape, Shiva ji was angry and adomished him. He sent the woman safely back with gifts and addressed to her as mother . The gross thought and desire of Sexual exploitation was absent in both cases.
And here in lies the difference between Dharma and Adharma and the degree of development in the consciuousness of regular Indic kaffir fellows like Nalwa or Shiva ji and that of islamic perfection unable to transcend the gross /bodliy perception.
Sachbol,
Islam’s treatment of women is really disgusting! What we consider one of the most holiest of unions – marriage, for Muslims niqah is simply a purchase of phuddi – nothing more! And with three talaqs they can free the phuddi if the phuddi becomes too old or too expensive!
Raj Too,
Its not Niqah but Nikoh or right to Nikoh in Arabic.
You are mistaken big time.Please refrain from insulting the intelligence of islamic people, the bestest creation of Allah. DO you really think that they will waste money in buying the product with daily diminishing value . Kaffir fellow, correct your understanding. The modern day parallel of Nikoh is with transactional contract, meant for mid or long term renting or leasing of car from the dealer. All it does is clearly define the maintainence , security deposit ,monthly payment, pre return penalty as well residual value. The only difference is the restriction on the annual mileage as recorded by the odometer. Apartment renting works in similar fashion.
Do you know that Hertz Car Rental agreement was developed on the template of this divine law ?. The kuffar question of the union of souls is moot based on the basic missing ingredient.
But you cant deny the fact that right to sign or accept the Very agreement is freely exercised in full view of many witnesses and obligations are imposed on both using parties.
Sachbol,
Islam’s treatment of women is really disgusting
RAJTOO,
HAVE U EVER HEARD ANY WOMEN BURNT ALIVE BECAUSE OF DOWRY.26000 ARE BURNT ALIVE IN AND AROUND DELHI ONLY.MUSLIMS SHOULD IMPROVE.BUT THEY ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS.
Tajender alert!!
Whatever religion it is we should understand that all are humans. Where ever you find fanatics, they will act the same. It can be Raj TOO or any one. Fanatics will fade away and they do not have much choice.It will take time, but it will come.
Humanism will come and prophecies will go.
Romain bro
Glad we agree that ideas matter. Now, the next valid question is, as you pointed out: where do ideas come from?
I am not sufficiently knowledgeable about Pakistan or Saudi Arabia or about the history and nature of their mutual relationships to agree or disagree with what you wrote. In any case, our Pakistani friends are best placed to make informed and honest analyses of those kinds.
In general terms, I doubt the relationship between money and ideas is simple or straightforward. When a country becomes wealthy, its ability to influence the basic attitudes and infrastructures of other countries should increase dramatically WHEN strong influence relationships and receptivity already exist. Money could probably buy only limited influence in situations of basic societal disconnects. This influence is likely to be limited and fragmented, socially narrow and shallow – even after one party makes rather significant financial commitments.
Nor am I much familiar with the Malaysian context. Looking purely at the nature of ideas, I would expect, at the level of masses, Pakistan to influence Malaysian society far more than Malaysia to influence Pakistani society.
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Why do people throw bombs, stones, and tomatoes at others? If you hand some children over to me and give me enough control over them, I can have them throw bombs, stones, and tomatoes at anybody. There is not the slightest relationship to anything else.
Islam is humanism. Islam is better than all the man made -isms. How hard is it to understand that?
Hinduism is the best religion because of (1) Sati (2) Dowry Deaths (3) Insult to the Feminine – considered as “IMPURE” / achh`choote.. so every Hindu’s mother/sister is IMPURE and filthy.. live with that feeling all your life, (4) Sell your conscience for USD 20- (all Indian spies to date have been Hindus 1947-2012)., (5) Encourages DISCRIMINATON of man against man OF THE WORST KIND IMAGINABLE… there is no integration of “Khatiya”, “Lutiya” and “Bitiya”… You dont sit on a Khatiya – you dont share the same glass of water – and you dont intermarry !(6) No moral values/frame-work, rape/steal/kill/maim/loot., and cover it all up, with hair-splitting Philosophical discourses by Aurobindo and Vivekananda, Radhakrishnan and Sankara., to the background music by Kishori Amonkar., to bluff the world.
But wrong is wrong. Hinduism is a wrong unto the Human Spirit of Man. The lower castes are held against their will – by societal pressure – and the lollypop of “reservations” in academia/jobs. Remove this Lollypop (RISHWAT) and see how MAYA becomes MARY in 24 hours.
India’s future lies in turning Christian. Christ is the liberator of all Indian lower castes. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT RABINDRANATH TAGORE had wished. A slow process where the lower castes (souls.. dog-souls to quote Hinduism) were given the respect of man. Christ was the liberator. In lieu of this service, Tagore was given the Nobel ! SO Tagore was right. India’s future lies in going Christian. All lower castes become Christians. And Maya becomes MARY in 24 hours. Who would want to remain chained eternally, in the safforn blood-stained hate-filled blanket of HINDUISM. Man craves for spiritual freedom – which Hinduism denies….
Hinduism is Spiritual Aparthied – and Man was born free and seeks freedom. He/she Cant be free – as long as he/she is a Hindu. The only way is to get out of the hell-hole ! CHRIST is the future of India. All Low caste Hindus become Christians… Right now 3% Brahmins are holding 98% top jobs in India.. (Woaw !). The moment you say this… they say “pakistani spy’, ‘isi agent’, ‘traitor’., etc. because of the basic mindset of theirs : “everyone else was created to serve the 3% Brahmin”. When anyone denies them that., or exposes them., they go angry.
Can Hinduism (which is an antithesis to Humanism) survive in 2012. What is Hinduism.. Nothing but a denigrating – man-dividing concept. Hinduism and HUMANISM are incompatible – inspite of huge vedic literature – ramanujan- sankara – radhakrishnan – aurobindo – vivekananda – ramakrishna paramahansa – down to the practical exponents of these : savarkar – golwalkar – hegdewar and gandhi.
How come drona is recommending christianity and not islam? There are many religions and ideologies which make many nice promises but do not and cannot keep them. Both christianity and islam are deceivers.
Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about how the “Brighton Sex Maniac Strikes Again.” Hamish is shocked and declares that “No Scotsman would do such a thing.” The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow Morning Herald again and this time finds an article about an Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this? Not likely. This time he says, “No true Scotsman would do such a thing.” – philosopher Antony Flew
The article above is this “there is no true follower of Islam” argument which is so much more potent than the no true Scotsman.
ahem is pathetic. not worth commenting. he is laying the trap. but we know the bania-marwari trap only too well. i wrote earlier and i repeat.. ahem deserves our sympathy. i do not hate him – i pity him – his ignorance is pathetic and deserves our compassion. there has to be a difference between People of the Book and those who Consider a pot-bellied Ganesha with an elephant’s tusk in place of his nose. Mythology and Story telling is good to put young children to sleep.. but philosophy is a different ballgame. And the highest Philosophy is one that BUILDS A SOCIAL ORDER.. or a Community.
Not the Shivaji Park Community @ Mumbai.. inhibited by RSS.. that advocate rape/killing/LOOT (riots have an economic ANGLE) Muslim property… and also talk about Animal Rights and Hindustani Classical Music by night. It is this duality that tears the Hindu consciousness apart.. and turns them into frauds.
I am not easily bullied, Ahem. Try your best.. and good luck in your endeavor. (Your V.P. Menon tactics will not work on me. They will backfire).
As regards why India will revert to Christianity.. a honest statement is : USA is the only superpower of the world… and represents the EXTERNAL dimension of Christianity’s worldly power.. hence.. Christianity. Everyone wants to join the successful band-wagon.. Plus.. atleast Christianity would give low caste Hindus.. some sense of equality.. self-worth.. respect.. honor. For how long do you want the Brahmin-Bania to keep him enslaved (“a dog’s janma).. How long.. For how long, dammit !!!
Albacore
But that is logically true – no true Muslim can do anything substantive with which any other true Muslim disagrees.
It is just one of the literally dozens of basic ideas whose bonded, matrix structure gives Islam its unique strength (and makes the position of individuals like the author – who is otherwise no different than the rest of us – rather unenviable).
OOOOOOO Sure….. It’s the Muslims and their drones killing American CHRISTIAN crusader families that is the problem……
If it’s O.K. to kill the families of “militants” why is it not O.K. for the militants to kill family members of those supporting the infidel murderers…??? Can’t have it O.K. for one and not the other…
to drona
Islam was created in Makkah and not in India. Hence islam and its agents ans quislings have no rights in India. That will remain the basic truth for all days to come. A muslim in India is a quisling of an alien imperialist fascist ideology. Hindu god-concepts are more relaxed, jovial and liberal than the fascist, arabic, mohammadan god-concept. Hindus can choose from among many god-concepts whereas muslims must submit under the one fascist-or-fake god-concept from Arabia.
@ahem
wow what “moderate” and humane views you have! I am speechless..
ahem
Can you help us see why we ought to disagree with RHR’s and romain’s conclusion that your (and possibly, even RajToo’s) contributions here and those of Dronacharya/Tajender are essentially identical? I am genuinely curious – not merely attempting to needle you. Thanks in advance.
@ Kaal
Yes tell ahem prove it!!!!
RHR
Yes, I hope ahem will take this opportunity, if possible, to distinguish himself from tajender/dronarcharya on these boards. As you well know, some of us have tried to appreciate every possible kind of reasoning and argumentation, if it seems logical from some angle, no matter how offensive and irrational it may be considered generally. So this is possibly the most sincere and considerate audience he will find.
P.S.: As an after-thought, I would even go ahead and ‘justify’ tajender. He could argue, and probably has already done so, that he writes what he writes only because Hindus unfairly attack Islam. He thus serves a very useful purpose – keep a check on people like ahem. To some extent, all of us – Hindus or Muslims – can sympathize with him.
But unless we already hate Islam, why should we listen to ahem or sympathize with his posts?
The last sentence should be -
But what about ahem? Unless we already….
Yes Kaal
That is a correct observation about tajender to some extent. Look I am not a religous guy at all and in fact I am openly admitting the problems about the way Islam is being interpreted and yet even my blood at times boils when totally one sided attacks are levied.
No religion is perfect and no society is perfect. Even liberals will assume a nationalist role when right wng of the “other side” attacks..
Even Einstein started to call himself a jew despite being an atheist when Nazis started to abuse his faith (by birth).
If I start reminding Indians again and again about Sikh massacre in 193-84 and Gujrat riots then even the most open minded will get angry at one point.
No communal and You, understand this basic thing about human nature which a few of interactors like Miles to Go, ahem and even raj too do not.
Raj too at least appears intelligent whereas ahem and MTG just keep on producing links and nonsensical garbage expecting Muslims to listen and “reform”..
RHR
Feel free to point out my posts that you don’t agree with and why. In some ways Muslims reforming or not doesn’t really matter much in the modern world. I have posted links to people like Javed Ghamdi, Tarek fatah, Ayan Hirsi Ali, Hasan Nisar, Bulle Shah, Habib Jalib, Ali Sina – This is all non-sense?
I guess you hate me because I believe that Islam is false and evil. I don’t hate you for believing that Islam is true and divine.
RHR
P.S. you are doing great work reforming your religious brothers. Please continue the good work. I guess we can be tolerant and friendly to each other even if we don’t agree on Islam. You should take a lead and show how tolerant Islam and Muslims are by not attacking me personally.
Think about it why do you get angry when I say Islam is false and evil. Isn’t it the same anger that you are fighting against – start with your own hear first…you can then preach it to Osamas and Kasabs…don’t give up…
*start with your own heart first…
MTG
As someone who is not particualrly religious, I dont hate you for believing what ever you want to believe.
However, airing out of context things on a repetitive basis does irritate me like hell.
Now if you had been sane and balanced and critical like No Communal or Bade Miyan ( who have been critical about radical islam), I would have preffered it.
How ever you have this obsession and like to vent it out irrespective of what the topic is.
I do not hate you but I do find you and ahem some what irritating..
Regards
Raza
You just have to reply to the post that you find wrong. I will learn from it.
I will explain you why I posted something I did and why I found relevant. Without giving me that opportunity you have made a decision and passed a judgement. You have already assumed that you are right and I am wrong.
RHR
not sure if you will find this relevant but here is something I found interesting –
http://dawn.com/2012/08/11/independence-day-oh-god-put-out-this-fire-for-us/
RHR – You might not agree with me but in my view there is only one question that needs to be answered – “Can Islam and Kuffar co-exist?” – in my view they can not.
Nobody seem to be facing this root question. I hope some Pakistani intellectual will take this up as a research subject and write on it with an unbiased mind.
RHR
sometimes I think I am just a reflection of your inner voice. we might have some non-local connection…
I did not find any place to put ‘water-kit’ related links. For the time being I am putting it here – feel free to move it –
http://youtu.be/BCsn9IvJ9vQ
RHR
We are on the same side. We have to invent a way to change the definitions of Muslim and kuffar – without it there is no escape…
Now you might get angry at first on this statement but think about it – are you not saying the same thing in your article?
I guess its logical, if you criticize your father you don’t feel bad but if I say the exact same thing about your father – you will feel bad…because you assume ulterior motives…I understand that.
MTG
I think my silence is perhaps a signal that I dont want to take the bait..
If you are intelligent you know what exactly is wrong with your attitude..
Sorry I have nothign additional to add on this thread
RHR
I am trying to guess what you mean but I will prefer if you just say it out loud each time you think my post is not appropriate. These days I am not that active anyways – its just a post here and there, so it should not consume a lot of your time.
MTG,
‘ RHR
sometimes I think I am just a reflection of your inner voice. we might have some non-local connection…’
I think RHR knows what you are saying is correct but it needs courage to admit.
RHR,
You are doing a wonderful job. I love all your articles. . Please do not let peope like Ahem stop you from doing this.
MTG,
Thanks for the link to the article in dawn . A very touching article, brought tears to my eyes.
Sachbol & Drona,
Let me reiterate. Please refrain from comparing the Holy Quran to kuffar idealogies to defend Islam because the core of Islam is the word of god and the Quran is final.It is absolute. Why do you have to draw immediate comparisons to the same religions and idelaogies that you lothe,despise and have formal words for disapproval for? If this is not insecurity-what is? Have you ever heard of a hindu claiming his religion to be the ONLY true way to find the God above? No. Guess WHY. The Hindu is not insecure. He is mature enough to understand that desecrating a book doesn Not tantamount to desecrating God.
If you want to defend your faith-please look within. Why do u have to give examples of singular historical figures [Safiya bint Huyai ] when the liberated status of women in islamic socieities is something that the whole world looks up to?
Talk about the status of women in general in islamic societies TODAY. Tell us how the men are NOT as liberated because they don’t have the same priviledges as muslim women.REally…why don’t men wear hijaabs & naqaabs and attain the same degree of freedom as muslim women?
ECONOMICS ka POLITICS se badaa gehraa rishtaa hai. NOTHING WILL WORK. I REPEAT : “MUSLIM SWADESHI” IS THE ANSWER + CONSOLIDATION OF THESE MUSLIM BASTIS (COUNTRIES). IF THEY REMAIN DIVIDED… AND LIVE OFF… HAVING “SHOW-CASE ECONOMY/IES” TO QUOTE M.J. AKBAR., THEN THE FUTURE OF THESE RANK CONSUMERS IS DARK.
Yes.. by impliation.. Muslim swadeshi would imply.. that i would forego the use of Internet.. This medium i am using right now.
Sacrifices.. blood and tears.. are needed to BUILD CHARACTER. Living of Parcels / food cooked in restaurants / being a RANK CONSUMER (others innovate – you just use) will definitely lead to a disgraceful life.. and a horrible unexpected death.
One must refuse AMERICA’S SADQAA. Live within your own means.. and/or if that is too much to bear.. i guess.. man must have the freedom to end his life. Right to Death, i.e. Death is a closure.. much better than a life of disgrace.. when you are bombed for no fault. Choose your own time., of leaving the world.. and leave with grace.
@ Dronacharya
Do you REALLY expect Middle ; Upper middle ; and Rich class Muslims of ANY Country to follow your ADVICE
.
Why cannot Pakistan do what is Really Necessary for it
to progress ie Eliminate extremism and GIVE UP its enimity with India
Dronacharya
Your Nick Name ” Dronacharya ” is WRONG because ALL
your Advice is BS . The REAL Dronacharya NEVER gave such BS advice
.
Your flag shows that you are in SAUDI Arabia
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you must have seen the RICH lifestyle of GULF Muslims
.
Do they really care about POOR Pakistani and Indian Muslims
Muslims are under seige world-wide. They are grounded between 2 stones. One is led by USA (sorry, but i have to say this, as bluntly as i can..) and the other is led by the Appointed Viceroys of USA who have Muslim-sounding names., and who rule Muslim lands. Muslim lands have been occupied thru the Agents of the west (ref : Nicholson’s “History of the Arabs” will explain in detail – if someone bothered to research i.e. – how British Agents were installed Post WW-I.. there is a History to the Abolition of the Khilafat of Sultan Abdulmajid Khan 1926.. If Khalifa was a harmless gubernatorial post, why abolish it. If Pope can survive, why not the Khalifa ? But the West hated Islam, and wanted to abolish the Khilafat., because it was a SYMBOL. Eventually, the horse-carriage driver was addressed to as “Khalifa” in United India.. the dress of the Mughal Nobles was given to Peons and Chaprasis in Indian Parliament / Raj Bhavans / Rashtrapati Bhavans… this was a tribute India was paying to its Muslim Past (Symbolism).
SYMBOLS are extremely important and impact the heart.. and the ocean of huma feelings.
IF Muslims (worldwide) remain RANK CONSUMERS.. and not producers of goods and services (no matter how inferior).. then i am afraid.. Middle-Upper-Middle-Rich.. all these would be swept by blood and tears and gun powder. IF they do not SHARE.. if they do not share “Khatiya-Lutiya-Bitiya”.. if they do not show mutual tolerance.. if they do not go back to the original camaraderie of Madina 1433 years ago.. if they do not invoke the POWER OF LOVE.. mutual tolerance first.. and then extend it to love for humanity.. all created beings.. including plants and animals.. they are doomed.
THE POWER OF LOVE.. A millionaire arab must marry his daughter to a poor but talented Bangladeshi (and viceversa). A millionaire Punjabi must marry his daughter to a poor but talented Myanmari (Burmese) [and viceversa]. IF they continue with “Main Bada.. aur too Kamm-tarr”.. then the end is horrible. It is a disgraceful end.
ARABS must stop selling oil. Keep it for the future generations.. for use 200 yrs from now. If someone bombs., and sends them back to stone age.. so be it. Why continued on borrowed living (bheek ki zindagi).. Better die here and now. In one second.. there is mukti.. deliverance from all kinds of pain.. najaah.. or liberation of the soul from pain.
When I see the map.. it hurts. These countries are so scattered. Why dont they go for mergers.. It is because they do not want to SHARE. If they do not share.. if there is no fresh blood.. inter-marriage.. love.. affection.. tolerance.. DUKH-SUKH ka saath.. that feeling.. then i am afraid.. it will end in disaster.
I would like to see Iran, Af-Pak into one solid country. To hell with Shia-Sunni jhagda.. damn it.. bury it.. all those people are dead and gone.. and enough of maatam.. and jalsa-juloos. Get down to business. Consolidate. Reap the benefits of “Economy of Scale”.. Ek handiya mein pakega.. to sastaa padega.. instead of cooking in 3 handi`s. There is beauty in synergy. EQUALITY OF MAN.. says Islam.. but we do not believe in EQUALITY of man. We segregate.. according to wealth/status/looks/qualification/attainment.. etc. THIS IS not Islam. These are traits of Jahiliyya… and we are living a life of Jahiliyya. It is a fact. Unless we remove this. It wont work.
KSA,Yemen,Oman,Bahrain.. to one country. Egypt + Sudan to be one.. African countries to be one.. Let there be only 4 or 5 BIG Muslim countries in the world. Then there will be a CHANGE IN GROUND REALITY. Otherwise if it continues as is., it is a Jhagdey Ki Jhopdi.. on “Fire”.
And America will extinguish this fire by using gasoline !!!
Drona
Learn some Arabic – your ideas are brilliant but use of Sanskrit word make it smell kuffar…
to RHR
You dislike A and B and hence declare A and B are same. Do you do it for convenience? Are you one-eyed? Or do you live in a one-dimensional world? Or are you looking at everything through a long narrow pipe?
I am saying that islam is evil and dangerous. I am not even accusing any muslims – whom I pity as victims of islam and its fascism, intimidations and briberies.
Islam’s fascism, evilness and dangerousness is sometimes very very subtle or hidden. This is being proved not by me but by muslims themselves, esp. in Pakistan.
So what makes your blood boil?
How decrepit the understanding of history among muslims is can be seen in persons like akb, drona, tajender etc.
RHR!
I quote yout opening szntence: one of the biggest enemies of Islam religion is its followers?
In its spirit Islam is a progressive religion and has the reformist attitude?
Denk fehler/wrong thinking! Islam came to being in order to reform the Ibrahimic religion and with the objective to eliminate the anamoliies spread by the followers of Moses and Jesus/peace be upon them.
Islam is a civilisation, has no geographical boundries or worldly limitations, and has been adopted by fifty odd countries as their official religion. In other words the fifty countries are committed to introduce no legislations which do not reflect the values of Islam per scriptures.
Do all the muslim Govts. or for that matter its citizens meet the basics of being a muslim or to whatn standard is a different question. Now please visit your article once again in the light of what I havz laid out and then tell us what exactly is your mission in the month of Ramadan, when muslims around the world are meditating and trying to find a certain amount of solace. This is the holy month of par excellance for muslim leaders to act and to act now for the benefit of humanity.
I fully respect others opinions, but do not support miread of events or history. Islam is not an idea, nor a country with boundry ; IT IS A CIVILISAEION AND HENCE FEARED by its self declred enemies. Sorry for taking so much of your time.
History has sooner or later taken the side of RIGHT.
Rex Minor
I think it is quite clear that Qu’ran and Muslims have themselves declared everybody else as their enemies, onto whom conversion, humiliation or death must be meted out!
Rex
Le me assure you that despite trying very hard i could not understand what you are trying to say
Islamic conversion is an unislamic concept.
The oath had to be in presence of god – or else it is meaningless.