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Indians and Pakistanis

Abhinav Pandya

This article is written by one of my close friends at Cornell. I am grateful to him for contributing for PTH. Raza Habib Raja

I remember, back home, every morning my brother would bring me the newspaper which had something on ISI (Inter Services Intelligence) as the lead organization behind everything happening in India ranging from farmer suicides, corruption scandals, black money to terrorism. The next day, same newspaper would be stuffed with the statements of hardliners trying to espouse the escapist brand of patriotism in order to run away from the real issues (as it requires a lot of introspection which any fanatic breed is scared of) eventually breeding a generation of youth who thrives on these ideas of misinformed and imagined hatred. Being in India, as a middle-class youngster I had developed a very biased opinion of Pakistan and especially Pakistanis. That opinion was informed by the booming hyper-nationalist media and political rhetoric.

But when I came to Cornell in August 2012, I found my best friends from Pakistan and Afghanistan. It was a natural bonding necessitated by very petty things but very important ones like the desire for tea with ginger and ilaychi, quest of biryani and passion for old bollywood songs. Despite the fact of intense political rivalry back home, here we realized that we love each other and this strain of love has an intense spiritual depth and historical beauty. I felt compelled to explore the roots of this love and this makes me write this essay.

This article is addressed to the hardliners and fundamentalists from both sides of the border. Through this article of mine I want to tell these various orders of fanatics which are superficially different but eternally one in essentials, that the mutual love which we the people of both these nations have for each other has a very strong history and deep spiritual underpinnings. It is a rational advice for them that they better fall in line or the logic of social evolution will throw them into the dust-bin of history.

The clashes between the ‘Hindu-Muslims’ and the followers of Brahmanical religious orders had nothing extraordinary. They emanate from the same forces which drive any conflict in the evolutionary history of mankind. There is nothing religious to them to a large extent. In fact all such conflicts have their roots in the human psyche and or its various conflicting faculties like faith and reason. In this article I am making an effort to demonstrate the assertion made in the previous line by exploring the roots of this phenomenon in the history of the subcontinent.

The advent of Islam in India goes back to 7th or 8th century A.D. when the Arab traders came to the western coast of India and made settlements in the present day states of Maharashtra, Kerala and Konkan region. The dynasties like Rashtrakutas gave those traders all the opportunities of trade and settlement in their kingdoms. This was so because Indian ruling clans were always welcoming trade and the benefits coming from that. Those traders were even allowed to build mosques in their kingdoms. The Arab writer Al Masudi 9th century A.D. talks about such flourishing Muslim settlements in southern parts of India. Those traders practiced and proselytized their faith and there was no violence accompanying that process of cultural intermingling. After that there was one another phase of such cultural intermingling and spread of Islam which was not accompanied by violence. It was the phase of Sufism which began in 12th century with the advent of Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti and continued through the millennia until 19th century. In this phase several Brahmanical followers from various castes converted to Islam because of the influence of Sufi saints like Mahboob-e-Ilahi Nizaam-ud-din Auliya, Garib Nawaaz Gesudaraaz Banda Nawaaz , Hamiduddin Nagauri. They could influence people because of their good behavior, humanitarian values and various miracles associated with them.

Now I will discuss the times when the spread of Islam was accompanied with violence. Before this let me make it clear that whenever any religion begins, after the initial phase when it witnesses the active involvement of its founder or prophet, it tends to be played at the hands of those who seek political power. This happens because the popularity of that religious ideology and its appeal make it a very convenient and easy way to seek and legitimize power. On the other hand the new converts to that religion or its passionate clergy elements find the political support a very easy way to expand their faith in order to strengthen their position. Same thing happened in case of Islam. In the Arab world, when Islam after the demise of Prophet, came to be backed by political power of caliphates and later sultans of Mawra-un-Nahar (Transoxiana) then it became political Islam or rather an expansionist Islam. This was evident in many theatres like conquering Iran,Turkistan and demolition of Buddhist monasteries in Afghanistan and Trans-Oxiana region. The Arab invasion of Sind (712A.D) and Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi’s looting of Somnath was also the manifestation of political Islam.

Although superficially all these invasions were done in the name of Islam but the real intentions of the ruling class were personal ambitions seeking power. The temples like Somnath and Buddhist monasteries had loads of wealth in those times so they became their first targets. The ideology of Islam functioned merely as a rallying point for these politico-economic conflicts. This phenomenon was not something specific to be associated with the arrival of Islam in India. Previously in Buddha’s time several Brahmins adopted Buddhism but later when the religious order started getting state support from the Mauryan king Ashoka then the Sangha (Buddhist religious order) also assumed political ambitions and violent conflicts erupted between brahmanical followers and Buddhists.

Similarly examples of such clashes in the name of religion (basically for political and economic power) are evident in the clash between Kshtriyas and Brahmins in the vedic period, between Jains and brahmanical faiths (this clash is continuing even now), between shudras and Brahmin/Kshtriyas, between shaivaites and vaishnaivites (Shashank, the Shaivite king of Gaud, Bengal cut the Bodhi tree of Buddhism in the reign of Harsh).

So, what I want to convey is that the history of conflict between different ideologies and faiths is perfectly natural (in the sense of historical evolution). Whenever there is diversity, to begin with conflicts do occur. But it’s a process and next stage in the process is of harmony, shared traditions, peaceful co-existence. So, please stop dwelling on the ideas of Islam in danger, divine intervention on white horses to wipe out all other faiths and the notions of Hindutva riding on holy cow. In the next part of this essay I will discuss the next stage of the process which I just mentioned.

The differences between the fundamentals of Buddhism and Brahmanical religions and Jainism were much more pronounced than the difference between Islam and Brahmanical religious order. Buddhists believed in the idea of ‘no soul’, ‘no god’. Similarly Jainas also believed that God could not be above the Tirthankaras (self realized humans like Mahavira). With Islam, at least few things are in common like the idea of prophethood, monotheism and the notion of devotion. These different religious systems started with these fundamental differences and politico-religious conflicts but in course of time they came to terms with each other. The differences at scriptural level remained and surfaced at various instances but the compulsion of co-existence and common culture mitigated these differences to varying degrees and what followed was the shared traditions, common customs.

The interaction and co-existence with Jainism led the imbibing of the idea of non-violence (ahimsa), cow worship in Brahmanical religion and common deities like Ganesh (the elephant god) and lakshmi (goddess of wealth) and Shiva (the lord of destruction). So the culture triumphed and led to peace between these orders. The interaction with Buddhism led to the growth of the philosophy of Advait Vedanta (non dual monotheism) and the practice of meditation. It also led to the growth of Nathpanthi sect (esoteric order which practiced a set of physical and breathing exercises to realize god). The intermingling of Buddhism and brahmanical order was much more pronounced than the intermingling of Jainism and brahmanical order. In fact there were many other religio-philosophical orders with different fundamentals, like Charvaka (atheism and materialism), sankhya( dualism) and Mimansa who, in spite of the differences and initial clashes developed common practices of worship and survival. The culture played a very important role in that process. Human life is not just about faith and ritualistic prayer but it is also about economy, trade and livelihood which can’t be sacrificed for supernatural entities. The mere compulsion of living together happily and prosperously prepares the ground for peaceful co-existence.

The same stage was witnessed in the relations between Islam and Brahmanical orders in India after the initial conflict. The drivers of this stage were the people like Khawaja Moinuddin Chishti, Nizam-ud-Din Auliya sahib, requirements of staying together and sustaining economy on the same land etc. The first product of this process was Amir Khusro who serenaded ‘Chap tilak sab chode mose naina milaike’ in the ears of our ancestors and we still feel the spiritual depth of these lines. The best product of this stage was Jalaluddin Muhammad Akbar who laid the foundations of Ganga-jamuni Tahzeeb or joint hindu-muslim culture of doab region. The other products were Rahim who gave his life to the music of lord Krishna’s flute, Abdur Rahim Khan-e-Khanan who wrote poetry in the praise of Krishna. And yes how can I forget Kabir, Sai Baba or Shirdi, Manik prabhu of Gulbargha. All these people emphasized upon the harmony and peace between two communities.

This peaceful interaction was also seen in other domains of life like politics in the form of joint Mughal-rajput state and the marital relations between the two groups. In fact you would be shocked to learn that in my place (Udaipur, Rajasthan) until recently rajputs and pathans used to intermarry among each other. In my state in almost every village one can find about 10 to 100 Muslim families. This extent the of spread of Islam speaks volumes about the peaceful interaction between these two faith systems. Even in crime this partnership made its presence. Many of us have heard about the cult of thugs in 19th century India. This was a cult who believed that its divine duty was to unleash destruction in the cosmos. This cult included Muslims, Brahmins, rajputs and people from other communities. In this cult the Muslim members did Namaz five times a day, read Kalma but they also worshipped Goddess Kali (the deity of destruction), wearing a Dhoti ( a dress which brahmin priests wear during yajna rituals) and with vermillion on their forehead.

Can you imagine a Muslim worshipping goddess Kali ? You will go beserk if you even hear something like this. But this happened and it happened because the goddess was the patron goddess of their cult. Another examples of this process are the Muslim participation in Ganapati processions in Mumbai, Durga( goddess) processions in Bengal, holi, diwali. Brahmanical people’s participation in Id, Muharram etc. Today millions of non-muslims visit Khawaja Sharif in Ajmer, auliya sahib in Delhi. In fact for any sort of divine illnesses non-Muslims visit various mazars and dargaahs. The practice of Peeri and muridi is exactly the same as the practice of sadguru and shishya( teacher and disciple) of Brahmanical orders.

The caste system in Muslims, Christians and Sikhs is the remnant of these peaceful interaction between the two communities despite the fact that fundamemtals of the above mentioned orders reject caste system. The Kayamkhani Muslims who converted from Chauhan rajputs still retain a horde of their old practices in terms of their dressing, eating habits and other aspects of culture. They cover their heads but they do not wear burqa or hijab. They wear kurti and kanchli( traditional Rajput female outfit). The system of purdah in rajputs of India is practice which was derived from Mughals. Another excellent product of this interaction was Urdu which was a mixture of Hindi, Punjabi, Avadhi, Turkish, Persian and Arabic. Even today the language of police department in Rajasthan( one of the state of India) is Urdu. My father speaks better Urdu than any Punjabi Pakistani.

The washerman Faiz Muhammad of my village is another product of this common culture. He has been staying in my village for generations. He knows more about my grandfather than I know. He is a devout Muslim but he doesn’t know anything about Bal Thakeray, wahabism, Al quaida. The constable Altaf who managed my sister’s wedding as the most trusted man of my father is also the product of this common cultural heritage. Altaf used to wear a dhoti with a vermillion and assist Brahmin priests. After his job, he used to go to his room for his Namaz. Those two pathan girls who did mehandi in my sister’s wedding and were with her much more than a real sister could ever be, still bring tears into my eyes. Makbool Chahca is still the most reverend figure for our family. He is a pious Muslim but he also fortunately knows nothing about wahabism or any kind of global Jihad. He thrives in the few letters of ‘Alhamdulliah’ and ‘Khuda aapko salamat rakhe’.

The strongest evidence of this peaceful culture-driven interaction presented itself to me when I came to Cornell University. Here my first and the most natural friends were not Brahmins from south Indian state of Tamilnadu or from Assam or Nagaland( northeastern states) but Raza, Wasiq, Hira, Hajra from Pakistan, Rafi from Afghanistan and Olinda from Bangladesh. Even here we have Kashmir but no one fights over it. I have found the Kashmir, the one which is here, eternally blissful and as peaceful and silent as Mansarovar lake. This is a very strong evidence of the phenomenon that culture makes the national and religious boundaries irrelevant.

My hardliner brothers must realize that with their activities they are basically doing a severe harm to devout Muslims like Altaf, those two pathan girls and Makbool chacha. More than this you are doing a great disservice to humanity.They are trying to hinder the process of Allah, the process of history, the process of evolution of ideas and philosophy. They are going for a head strong collision with dialectics of ideas. But mind it, that this process is natural and logical. It can be tempered with, disturbed and delayed but cannot be ended. The colonial rulers and the selfish politicians on both sides tried to stop this process (again to seek political authority by firing religious passions) and that resulted in Pakistan and Bangladesh. But today again after 60 years of freedom we have created a happy and prosperous culture where 80% Brahmanical followers live with 14% muslims, 2.3% Christians and 1.3% sikhs live together peacefully. Now if my hardliner friends try to stop this process Allah might do the same to them what he did to Osama-bin-Laden because if true muslims like Altaf and Makbool chacha are hurt Allah the almighty will never forgive their hypocrisy.

So please do not stop us from loving humanity. Do not stop my friends from coming to India and me from coming to taste the delicacies of Lahore.
Alhamdullilaah
Jai Hind, Jai Pakistan
Abhinav Pandya

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441 Responses to "Indians and Pakistanis"

  1. hari India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    tajender has been permanently deprived of his ability to think and speak honestly due to islamic propaganda.
    That is the case with all muslims.

    He demands proofs from others but does not give any himself.
    He demands proofs for violent facts created by muslims themselves.

    Talking to tajender is like talking to a satanic pillar with a loud-speaker on it.

  2. tajender United Arab Emirates Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Do you think that christians and jews are pigs and monkeys?

    we consider them as our cousin we originally came from same tribe.when zoinists were descending in middle east,every jew of palestine opposed their arrival through memorendum to gen balfour,it is still save in archive.
    these zoinists are master in creating fear mania and refugees.through refugees they make money and spread their ideology.u see libya syria now before iraq and afghanistan.in 1947 in india their satanic cousins did the same.before they were pain of europe now for middle east.

  3. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    hari u are an idiot abuser who have no proof to support what u say.

  4. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    maggu ,the following were the main aim of 26/11,

    MOTIVE BEHIND 26/11
    1. Eliminate Hemant Karkare along with his
    team to put breaks on ongoing investigations which were illuminating all
    links between Indian military, RAW and Hindu terrorists.

    2. Divert attention towards ISI so that next time no one in India
    could ask about those investigations done by Karkare and his team before
    they got assassinated.

    3. Advocate Hindutva message that Muslims are root cause of panic
    in India so these must be either converted to Hinduism or must be
    eliminated from Indian soil.

    4. Create a media wave to divert attention from incidents like
    Malegaon and Samjhuta Express blast and hence diverting attention from
    investigations of these incidents as well.

    It is also to be noted that Lt. Col. Jayant Chitale and serving
    Indian Col. Purohit are also neighbors whereas Gen. Hoon and many other
    ex-Indian army officers are active contributors to suicide bombing
    training to Hindu youth and also admit it openly. This is a dangerous
    scenario for India in common and the world in general where the elements
    from Indian army are taking part in training suicide bombers after
    becoming part of Hindu terrorist organizati

  5. Maggu India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Tajendar: You did not answer my question, Do you think that christians and jews are pigs and monkeys?

  6. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Maggu says:
    March 15, 2013 at 2:54 pm
    Tajendar: You did not answer my question, Do you think that christians and jews are pigs and monkeys?

    no.

  7. Maggu India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    So you reject that Quran is the truth?
    .
    You also consider them your cousins while the khoran tells you not to take friends from among them?
    .
    Have you been reading the final book or have you lost your copy?

  8. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    maggu holy quran being divine is right.holy quran says be careful with them.
    but i dont consider them pig or monkey.holy quran is right,3 month before killing qaddafi bercequleene th italian premier signed signed peace and defence agreement with gaddafi.sarcosy took 50 million dollar in election compaign and married with whore.

    so everything written is right.but they are normal human being.

  9. Maggu India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    But khoran said alla turned them into pigs and apes how can you consider them normal human beings?

  10. hari India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Communicating with tajender is like trying to communicate with a mentally retarded whimsical moronic person.

    He has accusations after accusations against “jews, brahmins, they, them, zionists, americans” and whoever else he was taught by his mullah to slander and hate.

    And according to tajender everything good comes from “us, we, arabs, muslims, jihadis, kuranists” and so on.

    He represents a typical muslim breakdown of the mind and pollution of the soul through islamic fascism.

    He will ask us for a proof of this (pretending to know all arguments) – but he himself is the living proof.

    All muslim debating websites are populated by such muslim morons and fascists.

  11. peace United Kingdom Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Hari, pl u listen carefully- NEVER ever discuss with tajender, akb, rex, kaal – no good EVER came out of it

  12. hari India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    peace writes:
    “Hari, pl u listen carefully- NEVER ever discuss with tajender, akb, rex, kaal – no good EVER came out of it”

    But it does give confirmation of the degeneration/debilitation of the mind caused by islam.

    This is going to result in many more horrors on the earth.

  13. hari India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    This degeneration/debilitation of the mind caused by islam takes place not only among muslims but also among non-muslims who wish to befriend or appease muslims.

  14. hari India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Islam hammers the human mind into accepting 7th century deceits by Mohammad as the highest and final truths.

    Islam means submission and that is incompatible with honesty.

    An honest human being is never submissive (but also avoids arrogance).
    A submissive human being detests/fears honesty. Such a human being feels well only under fascism. He yearns to live under the “grand claims and guarantees and safety” of fascism.
    -
    A god who prefers humans as mental or physical slaves is an evil and dangerous god or a fake god.

  15. Maggu India Google Chrome  GT-N7100 Build/JZO54K) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.166 Mobile Safari/535.19 says:

    HARI, you will not get any houris or the young boys that god gives to his faithful followers. you will be roasted in a tandoor and given new.skin and then roasted again. i pity your fate

  16. bobby United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Maggu says:
    March 15, 2013 at 7:16 pm
    HARI, you will not get any houris or the young boys that god gives to his faithful followers. you will be roasted in a tandoor and given new.skin and then roasted again. i pity your fate

    in paradize you will get maggu fk as much u can.

  17. bobby United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    peace says:
    March 15, 2013 at 5:59 pm
    Hari, pl u listen carefully- NEVER ever discuss with tajender, akb, rex, kaal – no good EVER came out of it

    as u have no proof and idiocy dont last much.abuse dont convince anybody

  18. Maggu India Safari iPad says:

    Lil BOBBY, you will get many houris… 72 is the number, right? Or you like boys with kohl lined eyes better?

  19. Maggu India Safari iPad says:

    Lil BOBBY, you will get many houris… 72 is the number, right? Or you like boys with kohl lined eyes better?
    .
    And you know why? Because intellectual suicide bombers like you are equal in rank with the ones that go BOOM!

  20. Rex Minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    It s futile to discuss the arabic language with those who have no knowledge of the language, or discuss Islam with infidels non believers who worship idols. However, the article appearing in the “Express Tribune”, by Faheem Younas, “Whose Islam is it any way” attracted many comments from Indian blogers, I commented as follows;

    Author,

    We do not call Express Tribune a Hindu Tribune simply because most hindies blogits space nor do we blame christianity for the torture which Obama administration is inflicting on muslims around the world without any condemnation from the church and finaly we do not hold Islam responsible for the secterian plicy of current Iraqi Govt. preventing sunnis population access to mosques. Why should the author thereforerenegates on Islam because Pakistan Govt. actions do not reflect the true values of the religion with its shabby laws of ex-communication(christian practice) and blesphamic laws(the colonial legacy). The military assaul on te house of God in Islamabad has no parallelin Islamic history either(recall Ibrahim, peace be upon him, who was allowed to build the first house of God) Pakistan has a long way to becoming an Islamic State, and its people have a longer way to becoming muslims as a model for others in the world.

    Rex Minor

  21. hari India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    rex calls the lal masjid in Islamabad as “the house of god” and thus proves that the islamic god-concept is indeed fascistic and violent and worthy of being exposed as fascistic.

  22. Maggu India Safari iPad says:

    In butt parast Islam how can there be a ‘house of god’? God is formless. Why does he need a house?
    .
    How Saudis can demolish mosques and build toilet blocks in the space and nobody raises a cheep… And an alleged house of god in Pakistan or India destroyed becomes a big sore on Islam.
    .
    So Saudis are not good Muslims and nor are Pakistanis and Iraqis …. So where is this fragile flower of the perfect religion being practiced if at all on this planet? Or the violent manifestation we see in kids becoming suicide bombers and killing each other is the practice of Islam.
    .
    Practitioners of this perverted form of Islam are the strongest practitioners of idolatry.

  23. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    MAGGU,

    SAUDIA RUNS ON REASON NOT ON RELIGION.ATTACKING LAL MASJID WAS AN EVIL ACT AS THEY KILLED MORE THAN 2000 YOUNG GIRLS MOSTLY FROM NORTHERN PAK STATES.LAL masjid was a religious seminary as well.muslims give importance to message.historical places can be demolished for improvement.

  24. bobby United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Maggu says:
    March 15, 2013 at 9:19 pm
    Lil BOBBY, you will get many houris… 72 is the number, right? Or you like boys with kohl lined eyes better?

    i love hijras like u.

  25. Maggu India Google Chrome  GT-N7100 Build/JZO54K) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.166 Mobile Safari/535.19 says:

    lal masjid people taking hostages and generally terrorizing their neighbourhood was not evil? the rockets they were firing were power of their prayer making fireworks or real weapons? now dont say self defence, why do students and pious religious teachers need to keep guns and rockets? or are those part of some secret islamic ritual?

  26. Maggu India Google Chrome  GT-N7100 Build/JZO54K) AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.166 Mobile Safari/535.19 says:

    So loving hijras is halaal? is that the reason you did nikaah with a hijra like your father?

  27. Maggu India Safari iPad says:

    TAJENDAR: and why are you screaming in caps just because I made a comment about Saudis? Now don’t tell me Saudi Arabia is also worthy of worship and what I said was blasphemous! In case my comment offended your worship sensitivities I sincerely apologise

  28. Rex Minor Germany Google Chrome Windows says:

    Tajender,

    The gang rape cunture moves to Madhya Pardesh and strikes at a swiss woman landing her in hospital, while the husband gets the beating. A cable network alert warning potential women tourists. Indian authorities shoüld in my opinion extend the sterilisation program for men as well. I wonder which one of the Hindu Gods is in action?

    Rex Minor

  29. dte India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    to rex

    The “gang rape culture” is a result of the loss of religion among hindus (even among brahmins).

    This loss is a result of the hindu politicians/leaders becoming bootlickers of muslims, europeans and communists and haters of brahmins.

    The more you slander brahmins the more will this gangster culture, corruption, rape, violence etc. flourish.

  30. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    dte&rex rape and kidnapping is part of old indian culture lanka naresh shree ravan jee maharaj kidnapped sita 4000 years ago.she was pregnant when came back.

  31. Manish India Google Chrome Windows says:

    ______dte&rex rape and kidnapping is part of old indian culture lanka naresh shree ravan jee maharaj kidnapped sita 4000 years ago.she was pregnant when came back._____

    Yeah,the escapades of Ayesha with Safwan all alone on a very cold desert night, in search of a phantom necklace, did not make her pregnant( al-nur).

    You know why?

    Because, he practiced ‘coitus interruptus’.

  32. Manish India Google Chrome Windows says:

    the ayats from 24:11- 24:25 make an interesting read.

    Here’s an islamic source to read those ayats.

    http://www.islamhelpline.com/node/2492

    I find these 14 ayats quite different from the rest of the Quoran: Allah here seems to plead his followers to believe of Ayesha’s chastity(or is it Muhammad,?), while in the rest of Quoran he issues out commands.

  33. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    tajender will never have the honesty to admit that there is more kidnapping, blackmail, rape, pornography, mishandling of women among muslims (than among non-muslims) and that it is worsening

    submit proof.geeta is mother of apartheism fascism and source of most of the evils in india.

  34. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    justice katju son of vhp president shivnath katju claims that 90% of Indians are idiots who can easily be misled by
    mischievous elements in the name of religion. It is so easy to take
    Indians for a ride and make people start fighting on religion.

  35. dte India Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    to tajender

    You want proof of islam’s inherent fascism the read this form your so-called holy book.

    ”Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them.” Quran 9:123

    Chapter 9: At-Taubah: “The Repentance”
    Verse 5: And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush.

    “He that chooses another religion over Islam, it will not be accepted from him and in the world to come he will be one of the lost.” Quran 3:85

    “Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another…” Quran 5:51

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  37. akb United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    Being Indian…and therefore thrifty

    I am an Indian… and these make me more so…
    .
    That I ask for extra oregano and chilli flakes from the Dominos guy,
    so that I can use them later in Maggi.
    .
    When the shampoo bottle seems to be over, I pour some water in it,
    shake it, and use it one more time.
    .
    That for me, a toothpaste isn’t over until I’ve entirely flattened it
    out and started rolling it up from the back.
    .
    That I buy broccoli and avocados for 300 rupees, but still ask for
    some dhaniya patta for free.
    .
    That I don’t just recycle gifts, I recycle the gift-wrapping paper, too.
    .
    Our home has fine bone china crockery which is used only when guests visit.
    .
    That I worry about the price of gold without any reason for buying it.
    .
    That I will beat the crap out of my remote to make it work but not
    change the battery.
    .
    I get so disappointed if the paani puri guy doesn’t give a free sukha
    puri in the end when I ask for one.
    .
    That I won’t have my breakfast and starve myself if I have been
    invited for a lunch buffet.
    /
    That when my T-shirt gets old, I use it as night wear, when it gets
    older, I play holi in it & then I use it as a pochha

  38. tajender United Arab Emirates Internet Explorer Windows says:

    die all 4 points u mentioned are true and i believe in them.my experience also taught me the same.

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