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What is Hinduism?: An Inter Faith Dialogue

During my stay at Cornell, I was fortunate to know many Indians. In fact some of my best friends were Indians. Abhinav Pandya is one of my very close friends and has contributed for PTH before also. He is one batch junior and right now still at Cornell. Abhinav has also done  Masters in Philosophy from the prestigious St. Stephen’s College, Delhi. This article, published in the form of an interview tries to throw light on Hinduism. The purpose is to promote inter faith dialogue and remove some common misconceptions with respect to its essence and compatibility with other religions. PTH will also try to come up with a similar article about Islam. Regards Raza Habib Raja

 Raza Habib Raja:  Abhinav, Thank you for time. The purpose of this article is to promote inter faith dialogue and throw light on the nature and essence of Hinduism.  I wish to begin with a very fundamental and rather elusive question: What is Hinduism?

 Abhinav: I am not an expert on Hinduism but I will try to answer your questions from a common observer’s perspective. I would like to tell you what I have seen and observed as someone who has been born and brought up in an ordinary middle class Hindu family. Answering this question is a highly complicated task, especially if the investigative journey is to find set structures, institutions and logically coherent systems. But the answer could become more meaningful if one takes a post-modern approach and is comfortable with open-ended explanations. The answer can become comprehensible if one realizes the limits of language and provides a room for further inquiry through the so-called spiritual and mental processes.

The lack of right cognition, perception and right approach leads to the futile debates and absurd conclusions. So my approach in this interview is to end the quest for conclusion and set out on an investigative journey purely on empirical means and see what comes out.

Is it a religion or an ideology? Is it an organized religion on the pattern of judeo-christian faiths ? Is it a cult? Is it some kind of primitive animistic religion? Is it a philosophical-metaphysical system deserving a serious academic and philosophical investigation? Is it a social system enunciating codes of social conduct? Or casually speaking (in order to avoid the above complex categorizations) is it just a way of life?

 Raza:     So is it a religion or an ideology?

 Abhinav:  Raza, the word religion originates from the Greek word ‘religare’ which means to bind. Something either in the form of set rules of conduct or a source of faith like a church or a scripture, which binds a group of people or the members of society should be addressed as religion according to this definition. But in philosophy of religion the basic element which differentiates a religion from and ideology is the presence of faith in some form of supernatural or more appropriately transcendental being. For instance in Buddhism the notion of ‘Nirwana’ is transcendental, so in spite of their proclaimed denial of the existence of god or soul, Buddhism is a religion.

Hinduism, technically speaking is a religion because all its different schools there is faith in transcendental entity. For instance in Advait Vedanta, the ‘Brahman’ is transcendental, ‘Maya’ is transcendental. In ‘Sankhya’ school the notions of ‘Purush’ and Prakriti’ are transcendental. In ‘Mimamnsa’ the offerings are made to vedic heavenly deities through ‘Yajna’ sacrifices. In some more divergent strains like ‘Jainism’ there is faith in ‘ Kevalya’(ultimate knowledge) which is transcendental. In ‘Madhva Vedanta’ there is a belief in heavens and souls. Hence it can be seen that broadly in all the schools there some notion of liberation from this worldly joys and sorrows and that state of consciousness is transcendental in all these schools. But there is one exception i.e ‘Lokayatas’ or ‘Charvakas’. This school of thought does not believe in any supernatural entities like ‘Atma’, ‘Moksha’(liberation) or any heavenly god.

Hinduism does have some authoritative scriptures like four Vedas, Ramayana, Mahabharata, Bhagvada Gita. In addition to these there is an array of different texts to please different deities like ‘Durga saptashati’( to worship Goddess Durga), several Puranas, Smritis. Many of them have common message and many of them have completely contradictory messages. Many of them talk about metaphysics and many of them talk about social laws, marriage laws (often giving them a religious and mythological coloring to strengthen their legitimacy) . Thus unlike Abrhamic religions, Hinduism does not have a single text or scripture which provides all directives about worship, rituals and social laws. In fact in Indian philosophical thought the development was always dialectical. There was a notion of ‘Shastrartha’ in which a thinker or a ‘Rishi’ tour the whole country and engage in philosophical debates with different individuals of wisdom. Despite this diversity of texts, the more important ones with a huge social base are ‘Ramayana’, Mahabharata’ and ‘Bhagawata Gita’

So the answer to the question is kind of ‘Yes’ or in totality ‘Yes’ with all the exceptions and deviations from the standard definitions intact.  It has an academic and ideological aspect but it is much more than that and at some stage it transcends the barriers of an ideology. It becomes more of a social system with which people have different types of connections ranging from rational, custom driven to faith based.

Raza: Is it an organized religion on the pattern of judeo-christian faiths ?

 Abhinav: Very interesting question, this reminds of my Professor Chand Mal Sharma who trained me in the basics of Philosophy, who would often say that I am a Hindu but I am away from religions. It was a classic piece of philosophical with which still amuses me in the woods of public policy.

The organized religions like Judaism, Christianity and Islam have certain uniform features like a single book to guide them, an organized hierarchical church and a notion of conversion. By all these standards Hinduism is not an organized religion. Even the above mentioned so-called organized religions have lot of deviations from these standard features like Islam has the distinctions of Shia and Sunni. Even among Sunnis there are several schools like Wahabis, Deobandis and Barelvis.

In Christianity also there are several divisions like Protestants, Catholics, Syrian Orthodox Church, Greek Orthodox Church, and Coptic Christians but still there is a general acceptance of Quran in Islam and Bible in Christianity.

In Hinduism there is no such uniform text from which one can derive single, coherent set of injunctions. Even the major scriptures like Ramayana, Mahabharata and Bhagwata Gita have different versions. For instance Ramayana has several versions like kambana Ramayana, Valmiki Ramayana, Jain Ramayana and Buddhist Ramayana.

The differences prevail in the basic narrative, for example in Jain Ramayana, contrary to popular perception Sita has been depicted as the sister of Rama. The text was not compiled over a period of time, with the final version coming in 1200 A.D. Besides these, there are several texts for different schools of beliefs like Shaivites, Vaishnaivaites, Shaktas, Pashupatas etc. Some of these sects have fought against each other for centuries. Their belief systems, modes of worship and rituals have been very different.

Secondly, there is no formal notion of conversion. Although ‘Arya samajis’ did launch a‘Shuddhi’ movement, which aimed at bringing people back into the fold of Hinduism from Islam and Christianity but it was not a movement with mass popularity.

Lastly, there is no single church in Hinduism or single place of worship like ‘Kaaba’. There are several places of key importance for a religious Hindu like 12 jyotirlingams (Shiva temples) 52 shakti pithas( Durga temples). There are four main Mathas( monastic religious establishments) viz. Shringeri, Dwarka, Govardhana and Sharda math. Then there are Shri vaishnava mathas  and Dvaita mathas.

In addition to these there is another side of Hinduism which rebels against the traditional forms of worship. They include Nirgun movements which do not believe in idol worship. The movements like Radhaswami etc do not fancy any form of worshipping stones, trees, rivers.

There have been extremely hedonistic and nihilistic movements like tantric cults, Aghor panth (having their origins in religious movements of Buddha’s age like Makkhali ghosala, Purana kassapa etc. These cults practice group orgies, eat human dead bodies and human wastes etc.

These different cults and belief systems have evolved over a long period of history, with factors ranging from political, economic, social, and cultural to metaphysical contributing to their evolution and growth. Going into those historical aspects of   Hinduism with their mundane details will be too much for our reader’s precious time, I guess. All these different orders began with many differences but since they evolved in the same cultural setting so they had plethora of similarities. In course of time due to continuous interaction the differences became redundant and all these emerged as loosely connected networks with a common essence running underlying, but still elusive to capture in words.

All these diverse spiritual paths and their enlightened spiritual leaders, with their presence in society cultivated a collective spiritual psyche in an ordinary Hindu’s mindset which enabled him to perceive the essential unity of all the divergent paths to know ultimate reality. This enabled them to disregard superficial differences and worship the inner essentials. This could easily be seen in the popularity of Sufi saints in India. It’s very interesting to observe that an ordinary Hindu would bow his head in front of any place of worship, be it Islamic, Christian or Hindu. Hindus in India often visit dargahs and churches for the cure of supernatural ailments.

As far as being cult or primitive-animistic religion is concerned Hinduism has always assimilated into its fold various tribal and animistic modes of worship. For example the ‘Murugan’ god of south Indian tribal groups was accepted as the form of ‘kartikeya’( son of Shiva). Acharya Chatur Sen in his classic ‘Somnath’ refers to various cults which practiced human sacrifices. They have been mentioned as orders of Hinduism. Historically their origins are not in Aryan groups. They became part of Hinduism with the expansion of Brahmanical religious systems across the subcontinent.

 Raza: Is it a philosophical-metaphysical system deserving a serious academic and philosophical investigation?

Abhinav: The answer to this question is an unqualified ‘Yes’.  Right from the beginning the various schools of Hinduism have attempted to define and know reality. They developed the theory of reality and the epistemology (theory of knowledge). Jainas have their own metaphysics based on plurality of the cosmos. Buddhists have their own metaphysical theory based on the doctrine of impermanence, cycle of causation. Advaita has its theory of reality based on non-dualism of the ultimate reality viz. ‘Brahman’. Sankhya metaphysics is dualistic analyzing reality in terms of ‘Prakriti’ and ‘Purusha’.

In addition to this, all these schools of Hinduism have theory of knowledge debating on the sources of knowledge like perception, inference, postulation and transcendental perception or Yogic perception. The Nyaya epistemology is highly advanced in syllogism and logical reasoning.

Raza: Abhinav, tell us something about the caste system and its role and significance in Hindu social and religious system. Is it something which is deeply ingrained in the fundamentals of the religion?

Abhinav: One of my friends in Cornell, studying comparative religions asked me to explain the metaphysical origins of caste system for her thesis. I was not only shocked but amused too. The caste system in Hinduism has no metaphysical origins. It is a system to regulate social existence of individual members of the society. The description given in the 10th chapter of Rigveda that Brahmins originated from the mouth of Prjapati, kshtriyas from the hands of Prajapati, Vaishyas from the thighs and shudras from the feet to Prajapati, is only symbolic in significance. The caste system, to begin with, not at all based on birth. It was based on one’s occupation. Even in one family there could be people with different castes. The Purusha Sukta of Rigveda says, “Rig Veda 9.112.3

—I am a bard, my father is a physician, my mother’s job is to grind the corn.

The later scriptures like Bhagvad Gita and Manusmriti say that four varnas were created by God. But then Gita also says that one’s caste is determined by one’s personal qualities and Karma not by one’s birth. There were various saints from lower varnas like Valmiki and Vedvyasa. Even in Bhakti movement various saints came from lower orders like Kabir, Dhanna, Namdev, Ravidas etc. Even now many Hindu saints and jaina saints are from lower orders like Raikas and Chamars.

The exploitative dimension of caste system has socio-cultural and political origins rather than religious.

The most amusing part is that in the sub continent people converted to other faiths but caste system percolated into those faiths. For instance in Islam there is a very strong caste system. In south India higher caste Christian converts prohibited the entry of lower caste converts to their churches. The Syrian Christians who converted from upper echelons of society still look for bride in the caste from which they converted.

Raza: Can Muslims and Hindus stay together? What does the Hindu system has to offer to religious minorities?

Abhinav: Raza, many of my friends often debate about the tenets of Hinduism and Islam. I want clarify that such comparisons are meaningless and irrational. Hinduism with its assimilative strength created such joint Hindu-Muslim faith and social systems which would be unimaginable in any other part of Islamic world. For example in Rajasthan(India) there is a community called Mev in Bharatpur district. They are, by faith Muslims but their profession is reciting the Bhajans of Shiva. Their main text is Ramayana. The names which they keep are even more interesting like Ram Khan, Lakshman Khan. They do not marry with their cousins. Similarly the notorious cult of thugi included members from both the faiths but they worshipped their patron goddess Kali with equal zeal and fervor.  So any comparison of the two religions would be an exercise in vain.

There is no single Muslim practice, performing which can make you a non-Hindu. For example the Kalma which says “ la Ilaha illaaha, Muhammad rasullah” ( there is no God but Allah and Muhammad was the last prophet) in no way violates any Hindu belief system.

There is a big difference between the notion of ‘Prophet’ and ‘Avtara’ or incarnation, The word ‘Prophet’ means messenger of God and avtara means a form or a manifestation of God. Essentially speaking there is no difference between the god and Avtara. Lord Rama was not the messenger of Vishnu but he was the incarnation of Vishnu, the birth of Vishnu in human form.

The only difference which I perceive is that in Hinduism, broadly speaking there is no distinction between the God and mankind (that too if we regard the advaita as the major and dominant force of Hinduism). The ‘jeev’ or the individual soul is capable of becoming ‘Shiva’ or god through a spiritual journey. This difference is also at a relative or superficial level. All the realized souls in Hinduism like Rama Krishna Paramhansa (who even converted to Islam), kabir, Gulvani Maharaj opine that in the final or ultimate state there is no difference. They opine that the paths are different but the destination is one.

Finally, the basic Hindu belief is ‘Vasudhev Kutumbkam’ which means that whole world is your family. The Hindu social system has a very catholic orientation with room for people belonging to various faiths.

I feel that Hinduism cannot be put into water tight compartments. In fact the study of Hinduism through categorizations will just complicate things and present a distorted picture of the reality. It is just a loosely united network of different philosophical, systems, faith systems, social systems and cultural systems. Its present form and structure is the result of long process of evolution shaped by the political, cultural, social forces of history.

However there is an abiding and unifying essence in these different schools and that is liberation or attainment of spiritually enlightened consciousness through meditation and penance.  All attempts to redefine Hinduism and present it as some kind of monolithic faith based on uniform communal identity are mere cultural and spiritual distortions. So it’s rational to adopt a post-modern approach in studying Hinduism and study or know it for its own sake without looking for ends or structures. One just needs to take a deep breath and feel the pure perception.

So my friend Raza, with a soothing smile on your face you can always say, ‘Oh Hinduism, haha, its just a way of life’ and chill.

Raza: Thanks a lot Abhinav. It was a very insight full journey with you into the realm of metaphysics, history and to top it all, the spirit of love for humanity and its essential oneness

Abhinav: Raza bhai, thanks to you for doing this great interview. If our little efforts, in this holy month of Ramdaan can contribute to the peace and prosperity of mankind then I should consider this the best holy act of Ramdaan.


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478 Responses to "What is Hinduism?: An Inter Faith Dialogue"

  1. akb Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    Hinduism is something which was rejected by many wise men and kings, including King Ashoka, ….and lastly by Buddha, Christ, Muhammad and Baba Nanak.

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    hinduism is system not religion survives on hate war and voilence.

  3. akb Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    Hinduism is like Mrs O’conner’s breasts

    *I**nto a Belfast pub comes Paddy Murphy,**
    **looking like he’d just been run over by a train.**
    **His arm is in a sling, his nose is broken,**
    **his face is cut and bruised and he’s walking with a limp**
    **”**W**hat happened to you?” asks Sean, the bartender.**
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    **”He couldn’t do that to you,**
    **he must have had something in his hand.”**
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    **didn’t you have something in your hand?”**
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  4. akb Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:


    From The Mahabharata
    Anusasana Parva, Section LIX
    Translated by Sri Kisari Mohan Ganguli

    Addressing King Yudhishthira,

    Bhishma said: ……… Without doubt, Kshatriya energy loses its force upon a Brahman when it encounters him. Thinking that thou art a king, that thou art possessed of great power, and that thou hast affluence, do not, O Yudhishthira, enjoy thy affluence without giving anything unto the Brahmanas. Observing the duties of thy order, do thou worship the Brahmanas with whatever wealth thou hast, O sinless one, for purposes of adornment or sustaining thy power. Let the Brahmans live in whatever way they like. Thou shouldst always bend thy head unto them with reverence. Let them always rejoice in thee as thy children, living happily and according to their wishes. Who else than thou, O best of the Kurus, is competent to provide the means of subsistence for such Brahmanas as are endued with eternal contentment as are thy well-wishers, and as are gratified by only a little?

    As women have one eternal duty, in this world, viz., dependence upon and obedient service to their husbands, and as such duty constitutes their only end, even so is the service to Brahmanas our eternal duty and end. If, at sight of cruelties and other sinful acts in Kshatriyas, the Brahmanas, O son, unhonoured by us, forsake us all, I say, of what use would life be to us, in the absence of all contact with the Brahmanas, especially as we shall then have to drag on our existence without being able to study the Vedas to perform sacrifices, to hope for worlds of bliss hereafter, and to achieve great feats?

    I shall in this connection, tell thee what the eternal usage is. In days of yore. O king, the Kshatriyas used to serve the Brahmanas. The Vaisya in a similar manner used in those days to worship the royal order, and the Sudra to worship the Vaisya. Even this is what is heard. The Brahmana was like a blazing fire. Without being able to touch him or approach his presence, the Sudra used to serve the Brahmana from a distance. It was only the Kshatriya and the Vaisya, who could serve the Brahmana by touching his person or approaching his presence.

    The Brahmanas are endued with a mild disposition. They are truthful in behaviour. They are followers of the true religion. When angry, they are snakes of virulent poison. Such being their nature, do thou, O Yudhishthira, serve and attend upon them with obedience and reverence. The Brahmanas are superior to even those that are higher than the high and the low. The energy and presence of even those Kshatriyas who blaze forth with energy and might, become powerless and neutralised when they come in contact with the Brahmanas.

    My sire himself is not dearer to me than the Brahmanas. My mother is not dearer to me than they. My grandsire, O king, is not dearer, my own self is not dearer, my life itself is not dearer, O king, to me than the Brahmanas! On earth there is nothing, O Yudhishthira, that is dearer to me than thou. But, O chief of Bharata’s race, the Brahmanas are dearer to me than even thou. I tell thee truly, O son of Pandu! I swear by this truth, by which I hope to acquire all those regions of bliss that have been Santanu’s. I behold those sacred regions with Brahma shining conspicuously before them. I shall repair thither, O son, and reside in them for unending days. Beholding these regions, O best of the Bharatas (with my spiritual eyes), I am filled with delight at the thought of all these acts which I have done in aid and honour of the Brahmanas, O monarch!

  5. akb Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    Evil Hinduism
    All you need to know about the ugly,beastly & evil nature that is Hinduism.The Hin-
    du Scriptures are not only filled with absurd deities & gross scientific errors – they al-
    so contain genocides,mutilations,pedophilia,rape,slavery,plunder,sati (burning of live
    widows),human sacrifices,bestiality,racism & other horrors.
    Hindu Scriptures
    All of the above mentioned atrocities are found in the most sacred of hindu scrip-
    tures.These are the ones I m using to expose this evil & ridiculous cult: Vedas (Rig
    Veda,Yajurveda,Samaveda,Atharvaveda) ;Upanishads;Puranas;Ramayana;Mahabhara-
    ta;Bhagavad Gita & Laws of Manu
    Damsels & Female Slaves as gifts
    Rig Veda 8:XIX:36 A gift of fifty female slaves hath Trasadasyu given me, Purukut-
    sa’s son,Most liberal, kind, lord of the brave.
    Rig veda 6:27:8 Two wagon-teams, with damsels, twenty oxen, O Agni, Abhydvar-
    tin Cayamdna,The liberal Sovran, giveth me.This guerdon of Prthu’s seed is hard to
    win from others.
    Beat & Rape Her
    Brihadâranyaka Upanishad VI:4:6. 7. If she should not grant him his desire, he
    should bribe her. If she still does not grant him his desire, he should hit her with a
    stick or with his hand, and overcome her, saying: With power, with glory I take
    away your glory! Thus she becomes inglorious.
    Drugging maidens & slaughter opponents & take the maidens by force
    Mahabharata 1:Section CII ‘The wise have directed that when an accomplished per-
    son has been invited, a maiden may be bestowed on him, decked with ornaments and
    along with many valuable presents. Others again may bestow their daughters by ac-
    cepting a couple of kine. Some again bestow their daughters by taking a fixed sum,
    and some take away maidens by force. Some wed with the consent of the maidens,
    some by drugging them into consent, and some by going unto the maidens’ parents
    and obtaining their sanction. Some again obtain wives as presents for assisting at sa-
    crifices. Of these, the learned always applaud the eighth form of marriage. Kings,
    however, speak highly of the Swyamvara (the fifth form as above) and themselves
    wed according to it. But the sages have said that, that wife is dearly to be prized
    who is taken away by force, after the slaughter of opponents, from amidst the con-
    course of princes and kings invited to a self-choice ceremony. Therefore, ye mon-
    archs, I bear away these maidens hence by force. Strive ye, to the best of your
    might, to vanquish me or to be vanquished. Ye monarchs, I stand here resolved to
    fight!’ Kuru prince, endued with great energy,
    Slap on the wrist for Rapist
    Manu XI:174. A man who has committed a bestial crime, or an unnatural crime
    with a female, or has had intercourse in water, or with a menstruating woman, shall
    perform a Samtapana Krikkhra.
    *Samtapana Krikkhra = period of fasting
    The following verse frees a man of any responsibilty after impregnating a female
    Manu 9:48. As with cows, mares, female camels, slave-girls, buffalo-cows, she-
    goats, and ewes, it is not the begetter (or his owner) who obtains the offspring, even
    thus (it is) with the wives of others.
    9:54. If seed be carried by water or wind into somebody’s field and germinates
    (there), the (plant sprung from that) seed belongs even to the owner of the field, the
    owner of the seed does not receive the crop.
    55. Know that such is the law concerning the offspring of cows, mares, slave-girls,
    female camels, she-goats, and ewes, as well as of females of birds and buffalo-cows.
    Manu 9:94. A man, aged thirty years, shall marry a maiden of twelve who pleases
    him, or a man of twenty-four a girl eight years of age; if (the performance of) his du-
    ties would (otherwise) be impeded, (he must marry) sooner.
    Vishnu Purana III:10 If he marry,he must select a maiden who is of a third his age
    ,one who has not too much hair,but is not without any,one who is not very black or
    yellow complexioned and who is not from birth a cripple or deformed…
    Sudras will always be the slave of Brahmins
    Laws of Manu 8:413. But a Sudra, whether bought or unbought, he may compel to
    do servile work; for he was created by the Self-existent (Svayambhu) to be the
    slave of a Brahmana.
    414. A Sudra, though emancipated by his master, is not released from servitude; since
    that is innate in him, who can set him free from it?
    Seven types of slaves
    Manu 8:415. There are slaves of seven kinds, (viz.) he who is made a captive under a
    standard, he who serves for his daily food, he who is born in the house, he who is
    bought and he who is given, he who is inherited from ancestors, and he who is en-
    slaved by way of punishment.
    Sudras can t own property
    Manu 8:417. A Brahmana may confidently seize the goods of (his) Sudra (slave); for,
    as that (slave) can have no property, his master may take his possessions.
    Sudras must remain in poverty
    Manu X:129. No collection of wealth must be made by a Sudra, even though he be
    able (to do it); for a Sudra who has acquired wealth, gives pain to Brahmanas.
    Rig Veda 1:CLXXVI:4 Slay everyone who pours no gift, who, hard to reach, de-
    lights thee not.Bestow on us what wealth he hath: this even the worshipper awaits
    Rg.Veda1:CXXXXII:1. HELPED, Indra Maghavan, by thee in war of old, may we
    subdue in fight the men who strive with us, conquer the men who war with
    us.This day that now is close at hand bless him who pours the Soma juice.In this our
    sacrifice may we divide the spoil, showing our strength, the spoil of war.
    Rig Veda 1:31:6 Agni, thou savest in the synod when pursued e en him, farseeing
    One! who walks in evil ways.Thou, when the heroes fight for spoil which men rush,
    round, slayest in war the many by the hands of few.
    Destroy ribs & extremities
    Rg Veda 10:87:10 Look on the fiend mid men, as Man-beholder: rend thou his three
    extremities in pieces.Demolish with thy flame his ribs, O Agni, the Y tudh na’s root
    destroy thou triply.
    Atharva Veda 5:20:5 Hearing the Drum’s far-reaching voice resounding, let the foe’s
    dame, waked by the roar, afflicted,Grasping her son, run forward in her terror
    amid the conflict of the deadly weapons.
    Atharva Veda 10:5:42 We hunt that man, we beat him down and slay him with
    our murderous blows.We with the spell have hurried him to Parameshthin’s opened
    Mahabharata 7:CXCVIII:(p.465)..Even this is the duty of a Kshatriya, viz., to slay or
    be slain.
    Thousands beheaded & maidens kidnapped
    Mahabharata 1:CII:(p220) Bhishma cut off, with his arrows, on the field of battle,
    bows, and flagstaffs, and coats of mail, and human heads by hundreds and thou-
    sands…Then that foremost of all wielders of weapons having vanquished in battle all
    those monarchs, pursued his way towards the capital of the Bharatas, taking those
    maidens with him.
    Invoke Indra for booty & spoils
    Rig Veda 1:LXXXI:2 Thou, Hero, art a warrior, thou art giver of abundant spoil.
    Strengthening e en the feeble, thou aidest the sacrificer, thou givest the offerer ample
    3 When war and battles are on foot, booty is laid before the bold.Yoke thou thy
    Bays. Whom wilt thou slay and whom enrich? Do thou, O Indra, make us rich.
    Rig Veda 1:CII:6 His arms win kine, his power is boundless in each act best, with a
    hundred helps, waker of battle’s din Is Indra: none may rival him in mighty strength.
    Hence, eager for the spoil the people call on him.
    Rig Veda 5:34:7 He gathers up for plunder all the niggard s gear: excellent wealth
    he gives to him who offers gifts.Not even in wide stronghold may all the folk stand
    firm who have provoked to anger his surpassing might.
    Rg Veda 5:35:1. INDRA, for our assistance bring that most effectual power of thine,
    Which conquers men for us, and wins the spoil, invincible in fight.
    Rg Veda 9:41:4 Pour out on us abundant food, when thou art pressed, O Indu wealth
    In kine and gold and steeds and spoil.
    Atharva Veda 4:22:7 Consume, with lion aspect, all their hamlets, with tiger aspect,
    drive away thy foemen.Sole lord and leader and allied with Indra, seize, conqueror,
    thine enemies’ possessions.
    Atharva Veda 4:31:2 Flashing like fire, be thou, O conquering Manyu, invoked, O
    victor, as our army’s leader.Slay thou our foes, distribute their possession: show
    forth thy vigour, scatter those who hate us.
    Atharva Veda 5:20:Victorious in the battle, loudly roaring, seizing what may be
    seized, look all around thee.Utter, O Drum, thy heavenly voice with triumph. Bring,
    as a priest, our enemies’ possessions.
    Atharva Veda 5:20:11 Foe-conqueror, victor, vanquishing opponents, seeker of
    booty,mastering, destroying.Speak out as a skilled speaker tells his counsel, speak
    strength to us that we may win the battle.
    Rig Veda 9:LXXIII:5 O’er Sire and Mother they have roared in unison bright with the
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    Yajurveda 30:5 For Brahman (Priesthood) he binds a Brahman to the stake; for
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    Rg Veda 10:18:7 Let these unwidowed dames with noble husbands adorn themselves
    with fragrant balm and unguent.Decked with fair jewels, tearless, free from sorrow,
    first let the dames go up to where he lieth.
    8 .Rise, come unto the world of life, O woman: come, he is lifeless by whose side
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    We find burning of live women also practiced in the
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    fumed wood. As the *funeral pyre blazed up, a loud sound was heard of the burning
    wood and other combustible materials, along with the clear chant of Samans and the
    wailing of the citizens and others who witnessed the rite.
    Widows are better off dead
    Mahabharata 1:CXXXI:(p.253)’ Women serve no purpose when their husbands
    are dead. She who liveth after her husband is dead, draggeth on a miserable ex-
    istence that can hardly be called life. O bull of the Kshatriya order, death is a bles-
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    1:CXXVI:(p.264)His wife Madri, beholding him placed in the funeral pyre and
    about to be consumed, herself ascended the same pyre, and sacrificing her life
    thus, hath gone with her lord to the region reserved for chaste wives.
    The same practice of burning women are also found in
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    ARJUNA having found the bodies of Krishna and of Ráma, performed for them, and
    the rest of the slain, the obsequial rites. The eight queens of Krishna, who have
    been named, with Rukminí at their head, embraced the body of Hari, and entered
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    *Funeral pyre = a pile of wood used for burning a corpse during a death ritual
    Hindus shamelessly pray for death of enemies children
    Rig Veda 7:CIV:11 May he be swept away, himself and children: may all the three
    earths press him down beneath them.May his fair glory, O ye Gods, be blighted, who
    in the day or night would fain destroy us.
    It s not a sin to slay & eat your son if you re hungry
    Laws of Manu X:105 Agigarta,who suffered hunger,approached in order to slay (his
    own) son ,and was not tainted by sin, since he (only) sought a remedy against fam-
    3 Hindu Mothers Kill Their Nine Children
    Mahabharata 1:XCIV (p.200) And Bharata begat upon his three wives nine sons in
    all.But none of them were like their father and so Bharata was not at all pleased with
    them.Their mothers,therefore,became angry and slew them all.
    Mother drowns her babies in the river to please the gods.
    Mahabharata 1:XCVIII (p.210) And the king, while thus enjoying himself with his
    wife, had eight children …But, O Bharata, those children, one after another, as soon
    as they were born, were thrown into the river by Ganga who said, ‘This is for thy
    good.’ And the children sank to rise no more.
    No intellect & discipline
    Rig Veda 8:33:17 Indra himself hath said, The mind of woman brooks not disci-
    pline,Her intellect hath little weight.
    Women,Sudra,dog,black birds are untruth
    Satapatha Brahmana 14:1:1:31. And whilst not coming into contact with Sûdras and
    remains of food; for this Gharma is he that shines yonder, and he is excellence, truth,
    and light; but woman, the Sûdra, the dog, and the black bird (the crow), are un-
    truth: he should not look at these, lest he should mingle excellence and sin, light and
    darkness, truth and untruth.
    Women nature to seduce men & lead astray
    Laws of Manu 2:213. It is the nature of women to seduce men in this (world); for
    that reason the wise are never unguarded in (the company of) females.
    214. For women are able to lead astray in (this) world not only a fool, but even a
    learned man, and (to make) him a slave of desire and anger.
    Wife can have no property & wealth
    Manu 8:416. A wife, a son, and a slave, these three are declared to have no prop-
    erty; the wealth which they earn is (acquired) for him to whom they belong.
    Women are sluts & have no knowledge of Vedas
    Manu 9:17. (When creating them) Manu allotted to women (a love of their) bed, (of
    their) seat and (of) ornament, impure desires, wrath, dishonesty, malice, and bad con-
    18. For women no (sacramental) rite (is performed) with sacred texts, thus the law is
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    No independence for women
    Manu 5:147. By a girl, by a young woman, or even by an aged one, nothing must be
    done independently, even in her own house.
    148. In childhood a female must be subject to her father, in youth to her husband,
    when her lord is dead to her sons; a woman must never be independent.
    A proud wife must be eaten by dogs
    Manu 8:371. If a wife, proud of the greatness of her relatives or (her own) excellence,
    violates the duty which she owes to her lord, the king shall cause her to be devoured
    by dogs in a place frequented by many.
    Laws Of Manu 8:270. A once-born man (a Sudra), who insults a twice-born man
    with gross invective, shall have his tongue cut out; for he is of low origin.
    271. If he mentions the names and castes (gati) of the (twice-born) with contumely,
    an iron nail, ten fingers long, shall be thrust red-hot into his mouth.
    272. If he arrogantly teaches Brahmanas their duty, the king shall cause hot oil to be
    poured into his mouth and into his ears.
    279. With whatever limb a man of a low caste does hurt to (a man of the three) high-
    est (castes), even that limb shall be cut off; that is the teaching of Manu.
    280. He who raises his hand or a stick, shall have his hand cut off; he who in anger
    kicks with his foot, shall have his foot cut off.
    281. A low-caste man who tries to place himself on the same seat with a man of a
    high caste, shall be branded on his hip and be banished, or (the king) shall cause
    his buttock to be gashed.
    282. If out of arrogance he spits (on a superior), the king shall cause both his lips to
    be cut off; if he urines (on him), the penis; if he breaks wind (against him), the
    283. If he lays hold of the hair (of a superior), let the (king) unhesitatingly cut off
    his hands, likewise (if he takes him) by the feet, the beard, the neck, or the scro-
    299. A wife, a son, a slave, a pupil, and a (younger) brother of the full blood, who
    have committed faults, may be beaten with a rope or a split bamboo,
    Rig Veda X:96:8 At the swift draught the Soma-drinker waxed in might, the Iron One
    with yellow beard and yellow hair.
    Rg Veda III:34:9 He gained possession of the Sun and Horses, Indra obtained the
    Cow who feedeth many.Treasure of gold he won; he smote the *Dasyus, and gave
    protection to the ryan colour.
    Rig Veda 1:9:3 O Lord of all men, fair of cheek, rejoice thee in the gladdening lauds,
    Present at these drink-offerings.
    Rig Veda 1:C:18 He, much invoked, hath slain Dasyus and imyus, after his wont,
    and laid them low with arrows.The mighty Thunderer with his fair-complexioned
    friends won the land, the sunlight, and the waters.
    Rg Veda 1:CI:1. SING, with oblation, praise to him who maketh glad, who with
    ji van drove the *dusky brood away.Fain for help, him the strong whose right
    hand wields the bolt, him girt by Maruts we invoke to be our Friend.
    *dusky brood = dark offspring
    *Dasyus = dark skin tribe
    Rg Veda 1:130:8 Indra in battles help his ryan worshipper, he who hath hundred
    helps at hand in every fray, in frays that win the light of heaven.Plaguing the lawless
    he gave up to Manu’s seed the dusky skin;Blazing, twere, he burns each covetous
    man away, he burns, the tyrannous away.
    Rg Veda 2:33:8 To him the strong, great, tawny, fair-complexioned, I utter forth a
    mighty hymn of praises.We serve the brilliant God with adorations, we glorify, the
    splendid name of Rudra.
    Rg Veda 9:41:1. ACTIVE and bright have they come forth, impetuous in speed like
    bulls,Driving the black skin far away.
    R Veda 9:73:5 O’er Sire and Mother they have roared in unison bright with the verse
    of praise, burning up riteless men,Blowing away with supernatural might from earth
    and from the heavens the swarthy skin which Indra hates.
    Vishnu Purana 3:11 (p.305) Let him scatter food upon the ground for dogs, outcasts,
    birds, and all fallen and degraded persons.
    One can easily see from the above verses where Hitler got his inspiration from.The
    swastika is also a sacred hindu symbol called svastika in sanskrit.No other religious
    book speaks of Aryan worshippers killing black skins.Also keep in mind that Hitler
    had a Hindu Guru for a spiritual advisor by the name of Savitri Devi.She convinced
    Hitler that he was an avatar of Vishnu.
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    Slay godless foes
    Rig Veda 1:174:8 These thine old deeds new bards have sung, O Indra. Thou con-
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    races, and bowed the godless scorner’s deadly weapon.
    Rg Veda 3:24:1. AGNI, subdue opposing bands, and drive our enemies away.Invinci-
    ble, slay godless foes: give splendour to the worshipper.
    Rg Veda 6:25:9 So urge our hosts together in the combats: yield up the godless bands
    that fight against us.
    Questioning Vedas could lead to atheism
    Laws of Manu 2:10. But by Sruti (revelation) is meant the Veda, and by Smriti (tradi-
    tion) the Institutes of the sacred law: those two must not be called into question in
    any matter, since from those two the sacred law shone forth.
    11. Every twice-born man, who, relying on the Institutes of dialectics, treats with con-
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    and a scorner of the Veda.
    Manu 4:163. Let him avoid atheism, cavilling at the Vedas, contempt of the gods,
    hatred, want of modesty, pride, anger, and harshness.
    Atheists & Sudras must perish
    Manu 8:22. That kingdom where Sudras are very numerous, which is infested by
    atheists and destitute of twice-born (inhabitants), soon entirely perishes, afflicted by
    famine and disease.
    Death to those that reject Vedas
    Vishnu Purana 3:17 (p.337) This deceptive vision shall wholly beguile the Daityas,
    so that, being led astray from the path of the Vedas, they may be put to death; for
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    Avoid contact & no sex with Unbelievers
    Vishnu Purana 3:18 (p.345)…Let therefore a man carefully avoid the discourse or
    contact of an unbeliever, especially at seasons of devotion,…how much greater need
    must there be of expiation after encountering one who has wholly abandoned the
    Vedas? one who is supported by infidels, or who disputes the doctrines of holy writ?
    Let not a person treat with even the civility of speech, heretics, those who do forbid-
    den acts, pretended saints, scoundrels, sceptics and hypocrites. Intercourse with such
    iniquitous wretches, even at a distance, all association with schismatics, defiles; let a
    man therefore carefully avoid them….
    These are the unrighteous heretics to whom a man must not give shelter, and
    speaking to whom effaces whatever merit he may that day have obtained. Men, in-
    deed, fall into hell as the consequence of only conversing with those who unprofi-
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    Mahbharata 3:189 (p.387) In this story atheists are associated with thieves & calami-
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    Rig Veda 10:87:8 Here tell this forth, O Agni: whosoever is, he himself, or acteth as,
    a demon,Him grasp, O thou Most Youthful, with thy fuel. to the Mati-seer’s eye give
    him as booty.
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    a king’s (anger) consumes the (whole) family, together with its cattle and its hoard of
    Degraded people must eat off the floor
    Vishnu Purana 3:18 (p.305) Having uttered this prayer, let the devout believer cast
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