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Lying Orya Maqbool Jan caught with his pants down

By Yasser Latif Hamdani

Mr. Jinnah has been the subject of onslaught by both the right and the left-  both want to paint a beard on Jinnah. Both have repeatedly failed.  But the difference between the left and the right is that the left at least does not deny facts. For example a leftist will not claim that Jinnah’s 11 August speech never existed or that it did not speak of a secular state.

Not true of Orya Maqbool Jan, a right wing crook and liar who is also in the civil service.  In his most recent column, the Orya claims that Jinnah in fact never made the 11 August Speech because he could not find any reference in the newspapers.  Typical. First a civil servant Ch. Muhammad Ali stopped it from being released and now a civil servant claims – see it never existed.

Well here is the problem for crooks and liars like Orya Maqbool Jan – the Pakistan Constituent Assembly record DOES exist.  I refer to Jinnah Papers Volume IV Appendix IX, Item 4: President’s address.  The 11 August speech is there in full as is precisely how it is quoted.

And since Mr. Jan goes by media coverage here is THE HINDU from 12 August 1947: http://www.scribd.com/doc/110861031/Jinnah-s-11-August-1947-Speech-Assurance-to-Minority-Communities-Editorial-from-The-Hindu

The tragedy is that Orya Maqbool Jan is a liar without any shame or repentence.  He knows that no possible construction of the 11 August speech can escape the conclusion that Jinnah wanted a secular state. Now therefore he wants to argue that it in fact did not exist. 

Muhammad Ali Jinnah’s first Presidential Address to the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan (August 11, 1947)

Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen!

[[1]] I cordially thank you, with the utmost sincerity, for the honour you have conferred upon me — the greatest honour that is possible for this Sovereign Assembly to confer — by electing me as your first President. I also thank those leaders who have spoken in appreciation of my services and [thank them for] their personal references to me. I sincerely hope that with your support and your co-operation we shall make this Constituent Assembly an example to the world. The Constituent Assembly has got two main functions to perform. The first is the very onerous and responsible task of framing the future constitution of Pakistan and the second of functioning as a full and complete sovereign body as the Federal Legislature of Pakistan. We have to do the best we can in adopting a provisional constitution for the Federal Legislature of Pakistan. You know really that not only we ourselves are wondering but, I think, the whole world is wondering at this unprecedented cyclonic revolution which has brought about the plan of creating and establishing two independent Sovereign Dominions in this sub-continent. As it is, it has been unprecedented; there is no parallel in the history of the world. This mighty sub-continent with all kinds of inhabitants has been brought under a plan which is titanic, unknown, unparalleled. And what is very important with regard to it is that we have achieved it peacefully and by means of an evolution of the greatest possible character.

[[2]] Dealing with our first function in this Assembly, I cannot make any well-considered pronouncement at this moment, but I shall say a few things as they occur to me. The first and the foremost thing that I would like to emphasize is this: remember that you are now a Sovereign Legislative body and you have got all the powers. It therefore places on you the gravest responsibility as to how you should take your decisions. The first observation that I would like to make is this: You will no doubt agree with me that the first duty of a government is to maintain law and order, so that the life, property and religious beliefs of its subjects are fully protected by the State.

[[3]] The second thing that occurs to me is this: One of the biggest curses from which India is suffering — I do not say that other countries are free from it, but I think our condition is much worse — is bribery and corruption. That really is a poison. We must put that down with an iron hand, and I hope that you will take adequate measures as soon as it is possible for this Assembly to do so.

[[4]] Black-marketing is another curse. Well, I know that black-marketeers are frequently caught and punished. Judicial sentences are passed, or sometimes fines only are imposed. Now you have to tackle this monster, which today is a colossal crime against society, in our distressed conditions, when we constantly face shortage of food and other essential commodities of life. A citizen who does black-marketing commits, I think, a greater crime than the biggest and most grievous of crimes. These black-marketeers are really knowing, intelligent, and ordinarily responsible people, and when they indulge in black-marketing, I think they ought to be very severely punished, because they undermine the entire system of control and regulation of foodstuffs and essential commodities, and cause wholesale starvation and want and even death.

[[5]] The next thing that strikes me is this: Here again it is a legacy which has been passed on to us. Along with many other things, good and bad, has arrived this great evil — the evil of nepotism and jobbery. I want to make it quite clear that I shall never tolerate any kind of jobbery [=corrupt employment practices], nepotism, or any any influence directly or indirectly brought to bear upon me. Whenever I will find that such a practice is in vogue or is continuing anywhere, low or high, I shall certainly not countenance it.

[[6]] I know there are people who do not quite agree with the division of India and the partition of the Punjab and Bengal. Much has been said against it, but now that it has been accepted, it is the duty of every one of us to loyally abide by it and honourably act according to the agreement which is now final and binding on all. But you must remember, as I have said, that this mighty revolution that has taken place is unprecedented. One can quite understand the feeling that exists between the two communities wherever one community is in majority and the other is in minority. But the question is, whether it was possible or practicable to act otherwise than what has been done. A division had to take place. On both sides, in Hindustan and Pakistan, there are sections of people who may not agree with it, who may not like it; but in my judgement there was no other solution, and I am sure future history will record its verdict in favour of it. And what is more, it will be proved by actual experience as we go on that that was the only solution of India’s constitutional problem. Any idea of a united India could never have worked, and in my judgement it would have led us to terrific disaster. Maybe that view is correct; maybe it is not; that remains to be seen. All the same, in this division it was impossible to avoid the question of minorities being in one Dominion or the other. Now that was unavoidable. There is no other solution. Now what shall we do? Now, if we want to make this great State of Pakistan happy and prosperous, we should wholly and solely concentrate on the well-being of the people, and especially of the masses and the poor. If you will work in co-operation, forgetting the past, burying the hatchet, you are bound to succeed. If you change your past and work together in a spirit that every one of you, no matter to what community he belongs, no matter what relations he had with you in the past, no matter what is his colour, caste, or creed, is first, second, and last a citizen of this State with equal rights, privileges, and obligations, there will be no end to the progress you will make.

[[7]] I cannot emphasize it too much. We should begin to work in that spirit, and in course of time all these angularities of the majority and minority communities, the Hindu community and the Muslim community — because even as regards Muslims you have Pathans, Punjabis, Shias, Sunnis and so on, and among the Hindus you have Brahmins, Vashnavas, Khatris, also Bengalees, Madrasis and so on — will vanish. Indeed if you ask me, this has been the biggest hindrance in the way of India to attain the freedom and independence, and but for this we would have been free people long long ago. No power can hold another nation, and specially a nation of 400 million souls, in subjection; nobody could have conquered you, and even if it had happened, nobody could have continued its hold on you for any length of time, but for this. Therefore, we must learn a lesson from this. You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place or worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed — that has nothing to do with the business of the State. As you know, history shows that in England conditions, some time ago, were much worse than those prevailing in India today. The Roman Catholics and the Protestants persecuted each other. Even now there are some States in existence where there are discriminations made and bars imposed against a particular class. Thank God, we are not starting in those days. We are starting in the days where there is no discrimination, no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle: that we are all citizens, and equal citizens, of one State. The people of England in [the] course of time had to face the realities of the situation, and had to discharge the responsibilities and burdens placed upon them by the government of their country; and they went through that fire step by step. Today, you might say with justice that Roman Catholics and Protestants do not exist; what exists now is that every man is a citizen, an equal citizen of Great Britain, and they are all members of the Nation.

[[8]] Now I think we should keep that in front of us as our ideal, and you will find that in course of time Hindus would cease to be Hindus, and Muslims would cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense, because that is the personal faith of each individual, but in the political sense as citizens of the State.

[[9]] Well, gentlemen, I do not wish to take up any more of your time; and thank you again for the honour you have done to me. I shall always be guided by the principles of justice and fair play without any, as is put in the political language, prejudice or ill-will; in other words, partiality or favouritism. My guiding principle will be justice and complete impartiality, and I am sure that with your support and co-operation, I can look forward to Pakistan becoming one of the greatest Nations of the world.

[[10]] I have received a message from the United States of America addressed to me. It reads:

I have the honour to communicate to you, in Your Excellency’s capacity as President of the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan, the following message which I have just received from the Secretary of State of the United States:On the occasion of of the first meeting of the Constituent Assembly for Pakistan, I extend to you and to the members of the Assembly, the best wishes of the Government and the people of the United States for the successful conclusion of the great work you are about to undertake.

 

 

 

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38 Responses to "Lying Orya Maqbool Jan caught with his pants down"

  1. masadi Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Oye Raza, septic-tank- was this an article that should have been published? It has NOTHING, zip, and the reference provided is a secondary account, not the speech so you cannot give a lie to Orya, and to allow such defamation based on nonsense, this is even beneath chowk- and chowk was the lowest of the low- you have sunk even below that. That said, the MAJ was a secular religion monger, opportunistically using religion for this perverse purpose and then trying to run away from its ghost- which tells us that not only was this man immoral but also unintelligent, in other words, a secular mullah.

  2. Qayyum nizami Qatar Netscape Navigator iPad says:

    Quaid e azam selected three piece suit cigar in hand photograph as official for offices and embassies he included
    A hindu mandal in his cabinet as minister for law and sir zafarullah a ahmdi as foreign minister he did not nominated
    Maulana usmani as advisor for religion affairs inspite of his keen interest. He declared official mourning on the death of
    Ghandhi

  3. afatqiamat Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    … there was no doubt about the print version , that MQM leader Rizvi has a certified copy of that in his possession , and this version printed in Hindu and possibly also in Dawn are known facts….

    .. but there are doubt about its recorded version ,its Mr Murtaza Solangi sahib , former D G Radio Pakistan who say that this speech was recorded at Peshawar Radio Station by a BBC and ALL India radio….and he has requested them to provide a copy of it , and so far has not succeeded in getting it , speculations are , Mr Mehmood Azam Farooqi of JI probably during Zia’s ERA destroyed all the record …!! ….when he was the information minister .
    Can Someone Confirm that…?

  4. masadi Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    The land and its people were not Jinney “key baap ke jaidad.” Who gives a F what he said or whether he was secular or religious or from Mars or whereever. The fact is he USED religion, was the author of the current confusion and then after creating the mess talked about a secular Pakistan- either way he was immoral, given YLHs claims about the speech, he was also a hypocrite, and if he thought he could escape the ghost he had let out of the bottle by using Islam opportunistically ( in tune with the desires and help of the British), he was very unintelligent. Hardly a role model or the Christianity like “son of god” that YLH makes him out to be.

  5. savera Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    This is very sad. Mr. Jinnah would be turning in his grave. And I ask you did he leave pupoos behind to create a monarchy. Secular or not give the man respect that is his due. He was a democrat, and not a royalist. That is the issue we face today

  6. BAK United Kingdom Internet Explorer  Windows Phone OS 7.5 says:

    Jinnah’s 11th August 1947 address is such a beautiful speech, profoundly wise, an epitome of sagacity and true foresight and so pragmatic, that it should have been the natural choice for the Preamble of the Constitution of Pakistan

  7. sta Pakistan Safari iPhone says:

    @Yasser Latif Hamdani
    .
    Thank you for that decisive rebuttal to Mr. Jan’s whimsical theory. Some three days back, I posted a comment at the thread “Allama Asad?”. I’m reposting my comment with a few additional words.
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    How could the learned legislators of India, after Independence, 16 days after Quaid-e-Azam’s 11th August 1947 address, be quoting from this speech, if the speech had never been delivered?
    .
    On August 27, 1947, during the proceedings of the first Constituent Assembly of India, when the Report on Minority Rights was being discussed, Mr. M.A. Ayyangar and Mr. B. Pocker Sahib Bahadur made specific reference to Quaid-e-Azam’s 11th August 1947 speech, actually quoting from it.
    .
    Mr. M. A. Ayyangar said:

    …Therefore, it is up to us to create a secular State. It would not be wrong for me to quote Mr. Jinnah in this connection, whatever, he might have said before Partition. He said: ‘My idea is to have a secular State here’. Somebody asked : “Religious or secular?” He said: ‘Hindus and Muslim are alike to me. They must have equal opportunities’

    .
    Mr. B. Pocker Sahib Bahadur said:

    …We cannot recognise Religion as far as the State is concerned. I wonder if my friends who have suggested separate electorate for minorities would appreciate the remarks of a great leader of India. It is Mr. Jinnah who, in his address to the Pakistan Assembly says: “…We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens, and equal citizens of one State. We would keep that in front of us as our ideal and in course of time you will find that in the political sense the Hindus will cease to be Hindus and Muslims will cease to be Muslims, not in the religious sense, because religion in the personal faith of each individual.” That is what the Governor-General of one of the parts of India says…..I submit Sir, that even they are believers of oneness of their people. Why should we introduce this separatist tendency into our politics? Sir, at another place the same very great leader says “…you are free to go to your temples and places of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to one religion or caste or creed, that has nothing to do with the business of the State.”…”

    .
    I have presented merely two references, of the earliest Indian legislators, immediately after Independence, making specific reference and clearly quoting from, and in agreement with, Quaid-e-Azam’s historic 11th August 1947 presidential address.
    .
    Regards

  8. masadi Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    To add to the immorality, the lack of intelligence and the hypocrisy is the fact that this secular business does not define the non-Western experience, this secular state affair has a specific history linked to the Western experience where the Church, that was part of the power strucutre of the old system was overthrown by the ascendent bourgeoisie and therefore these values of a secular state emerged among the manipulated populace- these Westoxicated people, having no clue of this, merely want to polish their white master’s behinds when they talk of secularism and secularization- like military dictators that are a direct consequence of Jinahesque politics, MAJ also did not have a clue about the populations he was supposedly ruling over.

  9. raham Germany Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Jinnah was an opportunist seeking glory for himself. Such people do show some concern for “the suffering masses” as a matter of tactic. How can one attain the heights of “glory” without such hypocrisy of being “concerened for the unjusted masses”? And muslims and islam are and were “ideal” show-off tools for such an agenda.

    Now the liberal pakistanis are trying to make Jinnah into a glorious fighter for secularism, human rights and what not.


    BUT he is now dead.
    He is more of help to the islamofascists in Pakistan now. His islam-glorifying opportunist words will be amplified much more since Pakistan is now captured by the islamofascists.
    This was a result of the gleeful “ridicule, slander and hate India and hindus” campaigns carried out by Jinnah’s liberal political children and grandchildren in Pakistan.

  10. Ali Hisham Pakistan Google Chrome Mac OS says:

    Regardless of 11th August speech, there are various other speeches that proves Jinnah wanted Pakistan to follow Islamic Shariah principals. A little research will bring such speeches audio and text.

  11. D Asghar United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    Masadi Sb, I agree with you. We tend to glorify MAJ as some Rehmatullah elah, when he was not. He was quite cocky and at times dangerously unreasonable too.My issue with MAJ is he saw the preview on Aug 16, 1946 with his call of Direct Action in Bengal and should have used his head rather than his ego. If Nehru was sidelining him in 1946 and rebuffed him greatly, he should have used a wild card and said nothing doing, we will stay united. Becuase this partiition mumbo jumbo will result in countless people getting killed. Nehru wanted an irritant Jinnah removed and for that he gets credit from the Indian side. If Nehru should have used his head too, Jinnah was going to die in 1948 anyway, this confusion that impacts us till this day, could have been avoided. Both leaders had enough political clout, to tell the Brits that they have buried their hatchet and will work together. The people who glorify MAJ, say a partition was inevitable down the road, even both would have clung together, I disagree. With Jinnah gone in 1948, his clueless subordinates, who brought this sorry state to this condition, would have been contained in India. Proof positive, since 1947 India has not been partitioned any further, however Pakistan has and has the tendency for additional break ups due to you guessed it clueless ostriches at the helm of the affairs. Regards.

  12. Ali Hisham Pakistan Google Chrome Mac OS says:

    Orya Maqbool publishes scanned image to prove his POV.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=563868640364413

  13. masadi Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Oye Dasghar, pehley masak karta hey aur phir kehta hey “I agree with you.” Aur phir is lumbi chauri description mey Britain aur Amreeka ka role bhol jata hey?? Is leiyay key tu peon of the West hey??

  14. D Asghar United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    Masadi Sb,

    phir sey redaing comprehension challenged ho rahay hain aap. :)

    “Both leaders had enough political clout, to tell the Brits that they have buried their hatchet and will work together”

    Needless to say, if they would have been clear to Brits, the Brits would have said to the Americans please dont call the IOU’s payable, let uis gather money to pay you off from another part of our Raj :)

  15. D Asghar United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    Masadi Sb,

    phir sey redaing comprehension challenged ho rahay hain aap. :)

    “Both leaders had enough political clout, to tell the Brits that they have buried their hatchet and will work together”

    Needless to say, if they would have been clear to Brits, the Brits would have said to the Americans please dont call the IOU’s payable, let us gather money to pay you off from another part of our Raj :)

  16. D Asghar United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    Masadi Sb,

    Phir sey reading comprehension challenged ho rahay hain aap. :)

    “Both leaders had enough political clout, to tell the Brits that they have buried their hatchet and will work together”

    Needless to say, if they would have been clear to Brits, the Brits would have said to the Americans please don’t call the IOU’s payable, let us gather money to pay you off from another part of our Raj :)

  17. romain United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    Et Tu Masadi Mian?

    isn’t there a Paki left who thinks partition was good?

  18. masadi Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Oye dasghar, you are brain challenged man- you are writing about the leaders telling the British and the British being a non issue and the Amreekans having no part in destroying and using Pakistan since partition- it is because you have sold your soul to the shaitan who gives you a few $$$- return to the homeland and then we can talk about these issues you moron- yeh Tahir ul Qadri key tarah, Queen key bait ley kar, colony mey rehney walon ko kehtey ho, main tumhain bachaon ga- expats are okay as long as they don’t take oaths of allegiance to imperialist powers, if they do they should be shut out of any discourse about countries in the so described “developing” world. Tahir ul Qadri ka bacha

  19. Riaz Haq United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    On the surface, the Quaid’s different speeches appear to send conflicting messages. However, a deeper examination of Misaq-e-Madina (Charter of Medina), Islam’s first constitution approved by Prophet Muhammad (SAW), show the Quaid’s speeches are consistent with each other and conform to the original Islamic constitution.

    Not only does Mesaq-e-Madina include non-Muslims of Madina as part of “Ummah”, it also assures equal protection to all citizens of Madina, including non-Muslim tribes which agreed to it.

    The contents of Misaq-e-Madina, Islam’s first constitution approved by Prophet Mohammad 1400 years ago, appear to have inspired Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah vision of Pakistan where people of all religions and nationalities live in harmony with equal rights and protections under the law.

  20. D Asghar United States Safari  Android 4.1.1 GT-P3113 Build/JRO03C says:

    Masadi Sb baat kahin kin jawab kahin ka, after all adhd kicks in ;)
    At least I am not a hypocrite likd MAJ who tells Amrika at its birth that it needs Pak more than Pak needs Amrika. Have a nice day.

  21. SBA United States Google Chrome Windows says:

    @afatqiamat

    …speculations are, Mr Mehmood Azam Farooqi of JI probably during Zia’s ERA destroyed all the record …!! ….when he was the information minister

    Recently, the Amir of Jamaat-i-Islami Munawwar Hassan shamelessly called all Shaheeds of the Pakistan Army, who laid down their lives, defending Pakistan against the Taliban, mere “Maqtools”, insisting repeatedly that none of our soldiers was a “Shaheed”. In the same stroke, he also judged the Taliban terrorists who were killed while fighting against Pakistan, as “Shaheeds”.
    .
    It should be no surprise, if a JI fanatic had ever tried to destroy the record of Quaid-e-Azam’s 11th August 1947 speech.

  22. RHS United States Mozilla Windows says:

    It appears that there is a serious attempt being made to re-invent Jinnah Sahib in Pakistan by some “concerned parties” in the media. That elusive “Islamic State” can only be achieved if the founder of the country was in agreement. He wasn’t…

  23. RHR Pakistan Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Masadi

    You are yet to tell me where are you working?

  24. masadi Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    I work where teray jaisay Cornell dropouts, who couldn’t take the heat in AmreKKKa can only hope to serve chai pani to the staff. Have a nice day and worry about your own employment.

  25. AKB Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    Can somebody tell the name of the Hindu or Mirjai who wrote speeches for Jinnah?? It’s known that he had brilliant secretarial staff who helped him in his day to day work.

  26. worthwhile Germany Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    to RHS

    You wrote:
    “That elusive “Islamic State” can only be achieved if the founder of the country was in agreement. He wasn’t…”

    Fact is: Jinnah was in agreement only with his own megalomania and narcissism. He knew he can make use of islam and muslims and their natural tendency to hate or slander or ridicule or look down upon non-muslims for getting himself the top post in their minds.

    Islamic history-writing is designed for sowing hatred, supremacy complex and disdain in muslim minds towards non-muslims. Jinnah had this mental field ready-made for him (over 1400 years) to sow his own poisonous seeds.

  27. RHS United States Mozilla Windows says:

    to worthwhile

    —-

    Nice attempt at deflection. The architect of Partition was none other than Nehru, the “Secular Hindu” leader. The legitimate Muslim demand for power-sharing was rejected by the Nehru led Congress. Do you also want me to bring up his promises to the Sikhs and Kashmiris?

  28. Sachbol United States Internet Explorer Windows says:

    Riaz Mian,
    Its no secret anymore that Islam, Musalman behave differently when they are weak in the land.Modern example is the Danda of Amrika and in recent past Khanda of Khalsa. Poor naive Jews of Madina fell for this trick and became the first victim of this treachory. Before you go on Jinnah, tell us what happen to those Jews and their beautiful children and women who gave asylem to your Man. Tell us how Jews got rewarded by saving this man’s life.Now Tarek Fateh tells us that Indians too provided Asylem to this man’s family and true to their inherent Islamic nature , got the similar reward of death and destruction with ,millions lifes lost.
    This Madina thingy gives Indian another legitimate cause to cancel the residency of Muslamans betrayed by their own TNT family founder of Pakistan. True Dhobi ke Pet.

  29. YLH Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    I am a Pakistani who thinks partition was a great idea.

  30. YLH Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    Dasghar,

    The reason why India wasn’t partitioned into many states was because of partition of Punjab and Bengal in 1947.

    Had there been no Pakistan there would be 100 different national states in South Asia.

    You can go on attacking Jinnah and Pakistan all you want… but Pakistan exists and it will go on existing.

  31. Chote Miyan United States Safari Mac OS says:

    “Had there been no Pakistan there would be 100 different national states in South Asia.”
    .
    Absolutely and they all would have had million strong armies and would have been constantly fighting like cats and dogs.

  32. khan United States Google Chrome  Nexus 5 Build/KOT49H) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/31.0.1650.59 Mobile Safari/537.36 says:

    What a retard this Mosadi. Self proclaimed oversimplifying intellectuals who think going left is the only way to be noticed.

    You are what you read, and it seems Mosadi has nothing but 5hit.

  33. Fingolfin India Google Chrome Windows says:

    YLH

    Not really. The question was whether India would be united or Pakistan would be formed. The freedom movement ensured that. The moment the British started dealing with the Congress rather than the royalty thanks to Gandhi making the Congress a pan-India grassroots party thank to the first non-cooperation movement. that was the time when it became certain that the British could not treat the royalty like the did the Congress and a united confederate was willy-nilly, going to come into existence.

  34. Truthful United Kingdom Google Chrome Windows says:

    @RHS,“That elusive “Islamic State” can only be achieved if the founder of the country was in agreement. He wasn’t…” Cart before the horse? It first needs to be sorted out who was the true founder? According to you “The architect of Partition was none other than Nehru” & consequently founder of Pakistan. But there is a school of opinion, that says Nehru’s daughter was the true founder. Other opinions include ZAB,Yahya Khan/Ayub Khan/Army & Mujibur Rehman. Still some say it was Jinnah who founded present day Pakistan by imposing Urdu on Bengalis. So take your pick. The “Islamic state” bit can be sorted out once the founder is agreed upon.

  35. masadi Pakistan Mozilla Firefox Windows says:

    oye Khan khotay key nakseer, MOSADI nahi MASADI, aur agar tu meri arguments ko SHIT samajta hey to refute kar, yeh do line likh kar geedar ke tarah (Musharraf ke tarah) commando key key bhag giya hey patloon geeley kar key, amreeka key bakao, dafa ho ja yahan sey

  36. YLH Pakistan Google Chrome Windows says:

    It is not Mosadi. It is Fasadi.

    Thanks.

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